(AZ) Possible gun violation fueled raid on Muslims


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Drizzt
April 21, 2003, 06:56 PM
Possible gun violation fueled raid on Muslims

Dennis Wagner
The Arizona Republic
Apr. 18, 2003 08:30 PM


The leader of an ASU Muslim group said Friday that he and other students were rousted by federal agents this week because some of them may have violated immigration law by taking target practice at a shooting range.

Hassan Alrefae, president of the campus Muslim Students Association, said agents entered his unlocked Tempe apartment at 6:30 a.m. Tuesday.

"They started screaming, 'FBI! Search warrant! Hands up!' " Alrefae said. "They had shotguns. They handcuffed us."

The FBI confirmed that warrants were served but declined further comment.

Alrefae, a U.S. citizen of Saudi descent, said investigators found nothing and left after explaining that they had come in search of firearms.

Deedra Abboud, executive director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said the counterterrorism task force searched three East Valley homes occupied by four Saudis, one Tunisian and Alrefae. Agents found no weapons, but seized some computer equipment.

Abboud said agents told her they were investigating students who rented guns at a recreational shooting range in violation of federal law that prohibits firearm possession by non-immigrant visa-holders.

Agents seized some computer equipment, but no weapons.

Alrefae and Abboud said they contacted numerous attorneys and shooting range operators who had never heard of the statute. They said the students, most within a year of graduation, could be kicked out of the country.

"They're scared to death that the INS plans to bring charges," Abboud said. "I don't think this is a violation that deserves deportation."

Alrefae, who shares his apartment with the vice president of the Muslim Students Association, Jaber Thukair, said the controversy is a private matter that has nothing to do with the campus group.

"I knew I had nothing to hide, so I wasn't scared," he added. "But it wasn't necessary . . . I hope the media doesn't magnify this and give it more attention than it deserves."

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0418muslimraid-ON1.html

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Drjones
April 21, 2003, 07:55 PM
The govt. has finally wised up and started profiling.

Its about time.

Mark Tyson
April 21, 2003, 08:12 PM
I have no problem with profiling, but I'm not sure that it should be against the law for non residents to posess firearms as long as they're not criminals.

Standing Wolf
April 21, 2003, 08:18 PM
Alrefae, a U.S. citizen of Saudi descent...

Sounds more like the B.A.T.F. at Waco.

TexasVet
April 22, 2003, 02:12 AM
Boy, that law is gonna whack the heck out of some western gun rental businesses. They make a HUGE chunk of their profits catering to Japanese tourists, who will pay a lot to fire one mag downrange from a full auto.

Leatherneck
April 22, 2003, 08:07 AM
federal law that prohibits firearm possession by non-immigrant visa-holders.
Is that true? Is it in the patriot act or something? I'll bet there's not one range operator in a hundred that know this. Are we going to have to present evidence of citizenship at the range now? :confused:

TC
TFL Survivor

trooper
April 22, 2003, 11:59 AM
Does renting a firearm (that never leaves that range anyway) for an hour or so really make a case of possession?

I mean, it's not like this guy bought it and took it home.


Regards,

Trooper

4v50 Gary
April 22, 2003, 12:18 PM
Me wonders if the "firearms" was used as a cover to seize computers. The two are so different in their capability. One can be used to kill and the other can be used to kill their mind, ruin eyesight, inflict carpal tunnel (sp - help gang) and contribute to blackouts.

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