Border Patrol To Stand Down...


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Biker
April 12, 2006, 07:44 AM
Ya don't need a tin foil hat to believe this one.

www.inlibertyandfreedom.com/borderpatrol.htm

Biker

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SB88LX
April 12, 2006, 07:57 AM
The page doesn't load for me, care to post it here?

Biker
April 12, 2006, 08:02 AM
Huh, works for me. Sorry Friend, to be honest, I don't know how to cut and paste. I'll try to find another link.

Biker

TexasRifleman
April 12, 2006, 08:05 AM
From what is going on, the Border Patrol stood down years ago anyway, what's the difference at this point.


Oh, and the link works fine for me but try this one also:

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20050513-122032-5055r.htm

GoRon
April 12, 2006, 08:06 AM
Here ya go
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20050513-122032-5055r.htm
By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

U.S. Border Patrol agents have been ordered not to arrest illegal aliens along the section of the Arizona border where protesters patrolled last month because an increase in apprehensions there would prove the effectiveness of Minuteman volunteers, The Washington Times has learned.

More than a dozen agents, all of whom asked not to be identified for fear of retribution, said orders relayed by Border Patrol supervisors at the Naco, Ariz., station made it clear that arrests were "not to go up" along the 23-mile section of border that the volunteers monitored to protest illegal immigration.

"It was clear to everyone here what was being said, and why" said one veteran agent. "The apprehensions were not to increase after the Minuteman volunteers left. It was as simple as that."

Another agent said the Naco supervisors "were clear in their intention" to keep new arrests to an "absolute minimum" to offset the effect of the Minuteman vigil, adding that patrols along the border have been severely limited.

Border Patrol Chief David V. Aguilar at the agency's Washington headquarters called the accusations "outright wrong," saying that supervisors at the Naco station had not blocked agents from making arrests and that the station's 350 agents were being "supported in carrying out" their duties.

"Border Patrol agents are the front line of defense against terrorism," Chief Aguilar said, adding that the 11,000 agents nationwide are "meeting that challenge, head-on ... as daunting a task as that may sound."

The chief -- a former head of the agency's Tucson sector, which includes the Naco station -- said that with the world watching the Arizona border because of the Minuteman Project, agents in Naco "demonstrated flexibility and resilience in carrying out their critical homeland security duties and responsibilities."

But Rep. Tom Tancredo, Colorado Republican, yesterday said "credible sources" within the Border Patrol also had told him of the decision by Naco supervisors to keep new arrests to a minimum, saying he was angry but not surprised.

"It's like telling a cop to stand by and watch burglars loot a store but don't arrest any of them," he said. "This is another example of decisions being made at the highest levels of the Border Patrol that are hurting morale and helping to rot the agency from within."

"I worry about our efforts in Congress to increase the number of agents," he said. "Based on these kinds of orders, we could spend the equivalent of the national debt and never have secure borders."

Mr. Tancredo, chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus, blamed the Bush administration for setting an immigration enforcement tone that suggests to those enforcing the law that he is not serious about secure borders.

"We need to get the president to come to grips with the seriousness of the problem," he said. "I know he doesn't like to utter the words, 'I was wrong,' but if we have another incident like September 11 by people who came through our borders without permission, I hope he doesn't have to say 'I'm sorry.' "

During the Minuteman vigil, Border Patrol supervisors in Arizona discounted their efforts, saying a drop in apprehensions during their protest was because of the Mexican government's deployment of military and police south of the targeted area and a new federal program known as the Arizona Border Control Initiative that brought manpower increases to the state.

The Naco supervisors blamed the volunteers for unnecessarily tripping sensors, disturbing draglines and interfering with the normal operations of the agents. They said that their impact on illegals was "negligible" and that civilians should leave immigration enforcement "to the professionals."

Several field agents credited the volunteers with cutting the flow of illegal aliens in the targeted Naco area, saying the number of apprehended illegals dropped from an average of 500 a day to less than 15 a day.

More than 850 volunteers, in a protest of the lax immigration enforcement policies of the White House and Congress, sought to reduce the flow of illegal aliens along a popular immigration corridor on the Arizona-Mexico border near Naco by reporting illegals to the Border Patrol as they crossed into the United States.

Their goal was to show that increased manpower on the border would effectively deter illegal immigration. Organizers said the protest resulted in Border Patrol arrests of 349 illegal aliens.

Area residents, in a half-page ad in the Sunday edition of the Sierra Vista Herald, told the volunteers: "Thanks for doing what our government won't -- close the border to illegal aliens. It was the quietest month we've had in many years ... You made us feel safe because the border was closed."

:banghead:

Biker
April 12, 2006, 08:10 AM
Much obliged, GoRon.:)

Biker

SB88LX
April 12, 2006, 08:14 AM
thanks for posting, I guess there was too much garbage in the html code, i edited, saved as, and it worked fine. Seems like Government policy and the will of the people are about polar opposites right now.

GTSteve03
April 12, 2006, 08:50 AM
Anything done by the People alone, that performs above and beyond a Government organization, will in the end make the Government look inept and weak. This is exactly why they are hamstringing the Border Patrol, in order to save face and discredit a successfully implemented private organization.

You don't want the peons to get uppity and start thinking they can do things on their own, now do you? :banghead:

geekWithA.45
April 12, 2006, 09:03 AM
It sorta doesn't matter how many the border patrol arrest.

They'll pretty much say that for the most part, they got them all.

The border patrol's equation will be

Total Border Crossers = N arrested + "a few"

The minute men provide a data point for a different equation:

Total Border Crossers = N Observed + "a few"

We can then derive a final equation:

Border Crossers missed by Border Patrol = (N Observed - N arrested) + "a few"

garyk/nm
April 12, 2006, 09:14 AM
One step closer to revolution.
If this current situation doesn't qualify as tyranny, what does?

RealGun
April 12, 2006, 09:20 AM
I count 6 open threads on illegal immigration with comments in the last two days. There is another one that was highjacked in that direction. Could we at least maintain some focus on specific points?

Biker
April 12, 2006, 09:29 AM
This particular topic is beyond the normal immigration argument. It provides evidence of a conspiricy by those in power to undermine efforts to curb the invasion. It provides evidence that higher-ups are intentionally betraying their oath to protect our borders and our citizens.
Biker

TarpleyG
April 12, 2006, 09:52 AM
That article is almost a year old. Why is it okay for one side to use deceitful tactics to further an agenda but not for the other. I am not blaming you but the original site you pointed us to. They specifically left off the article's original date from the copy and paste.

Greg

Biker
April 12, 2006, 09:56 AM
No, I didn't catch the date. In any case, the message is disturbing even if it is a year old, yes?
Biker

seeker_two
April 12, 2006, 10:04 AM
I remember hearing about this before (maybe even here on THR)...

If true, this is a violation of the oath taken by every BP officer, administrator, and up the chain of command to Chertoff and Bush. And if THAT isn't impeachable, I don't know what is... :cuss:

"It's like telling a cop to stand by and watch burglars loot a store but don't arrest any of them," he said. "This is another example of decisions being made at the highest levels of the Border Patrol that are hurting morale and helping to rot the agency from within."


...but then, since this is SOP for police in New Orleans and Los Angeles anyway.... :banghead:

wheelgunslinger
April 12, 2006, 10:40 AM
This seems like an obvious ploy to frustrate the minutemen into doing something stupid. Which will then create a situation that's perfect for the pro-open border side of the equation to appeal to bleeding hearts.
I hope these minutemen keep their wits about them. It's not about just guarding the border from encroachment. It's about politics and guarding the border. And, that's an even tougher fight once you have the other side's agenda aimed squarely at you.
And, the worst part is, these guys are just trying to do the right thing. And most of America agrees with them.

Mizzle187
April 12, 2006, 11:09 AM
The minutemen arent and werent even close to letting this discourage them. The minutemen are far from what they are portrayed as by certain media outlets. These are some very organized and backed people from what I was told. They arent going anywhere anytime soon!

garyk/nm
April 12, 2006, 01:26 PM
Speaking of the Minutemen, aren't they currently on station at several locations on the border? Seen anything on the news lately? You don't think that news is being intentionally supressed, do you?

http://minutemanhq.com/b2/

LAR-15
April 12, 2006, 02:12 PM
They are trying to bait the Minutemen much like the ACLU has been.

longeyes
April 12, 2006, 08:29 PM
Trickle-down treachery anyone?

antarti
April 13, 2006, 12:29 AM
Another agent said the Naco supervisors "were clear in their intention" to keep new arrests to an "absolute minimum" to offset the effect of the Minuteman vigil, adding that patrols along the border have been severely limited.

You know, there are probably a hundred threads on THR about people getting the shaft (or much worse) over $200 tax disputes from armed gubmint ninjas.

You would think all the 3-letter agencies would be up in arms over millions of non-taxpayers, but there it is... representation without taxation for them, taxation without representation for us.

SIGarmed
April 13, 2006, 01:13 AM
Uh, that page is dated May 13, 2005. This story already hit months ago so for anyone that was paying attention it's old news.

Typical politicians running our government agencies. That's why things are screwed up.

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