[PlayboyPenguin]

When I bought my Sheriff's model Vaquero that I mentioned in another thread the shop owner told me that Val Kilmer carried one in a cross draw holster in a movie. Does anyone know what movie this was?

[220_Swift]

My guess would be Tombstone. And I'm shocked that you have not seen it yet.:D

[cslinger]

Gotta be Tombstone, great movie, very fun. Go rent.

[Hawkmoon]

Didn't your other post say that you bought a NEW Vaquero? Did you mean "new" as in "not old" or "new" as in "new model"? I ask because the movie Tombstone was made YEARS before Ruger came out with the new model Vaquero.

That pistol doesn't look like a Vaquero anyway. Doesn't it have a Bisley grip frame? Was that offered on Vaqueros?

[PlayboyPenguin]

I mean new as in "not used" and "new to me". I still do not own a "new model Vaquero". I might pick one up this week now that I know it is BAG day. :)

[Zen21Tao]

http://www.reedercustomguns.com/revolvers/DocHolliday_classic.htm

In 1992 when we first started building cowboy guns the first two built were the Tombstone Classic and the Doc Holliday Classic, both built on the Ruger Blackhawk®. These were extremely popular and in 1994 when the Vaquero® was released they were even more popular, especially the Doc Holliday Classic.

This little beauty has sparked the imagination of western lovers all over the world. The Doc starts out life as your Ruger old model Vaquero.® We then shorten the barrel to 3 1/2 inches, round the butt to our Gambler Grip, fit a set of traditional grips to it, in white or black pearl or polymer ivory. We full engrave it with items relevant to the life of Doc Holliday, such as whiskey bottles, beer mugs, playing cards, dice, revolvers and much more.

If you prefer the Doc can be engraved in full scroll engraving rather than the western trappings. The hammer and trigger are fully jeweled for that classy look and a full action job is done for a super slick hammer and trigger pull. We then sight the gun in dead on at 20 yards.

The Doc Holliday Classic has an ejector rod for easy shell extraction but if you prefer you can have it as the traditional Sheriff's model with a 2 inch barrel and no ejector rod and no hump on the side of the frame. Whichever style you choose, and whether it is in high polish stainless steel or high polished Black Chromex you will be getting a little bit of western history in our Doc Holliday Classic.

http://www.reedercustomguns.com/revolvers/images/dh_classic.jpg

http://www.reedercustomguns.com/revolvers/images/pistol_parlor_f.jpg

[PlayboyPenguin]

It is a Vaquero. I am certain of that much. When I saw it I had to have it because I have not seen many like it.

[BullfrogKen]

the shop owner told me that . . . insert famous name . . . carried one in . . . insert famous film name . . . movie

I am not suggesting it wasn't used in that movie . . . but if I had a nickel for every time some gun clerk or shop owner trying to close a sale used that line . . .

[PlayboyPenguin]

I did not mean to imply that this very gun was used in a movie. Just the Val Kilmer carried the same model of gun. I do not buy used guns...even ones from Val Kilmer...maybe John Wayne.

[BullfrogKen]

And I'm not implying that statement was even uttered to make this sale. It could have been mentioned in a passing conversation. I was merely stating that, to prove a point, many things uttered by those in the business of making a sale are not necessarily true . . . this statement in particular.

Or . . . Delta Force uses these . . . <our State police> department uses these . . . <famous trainer> uses these . . . model of pistol.

[Detritus]

the salesman may have been trying to say that Kilmer used a gun or guns that had a similar grip, short barrel, and or lack of ejector rod (many "sherrif" and "storeKeep" model guns lack the rod and attendant frame hump) . the guns from tombstone were not however ruger vaqueros. at least one of the pistols that kilmer used in the course of that movie (as in, in one of the gunfight scenes) was an original Colt thunderer double-action which had birdhead grips. i've always been under the impression that an effort was made in making tombstone to keep the weapons on screen designs that actually existed during the potrayed period.

[Hkmp5sd]

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/Hkmp5sd/tstone_06.jpg

[PlayboyPenguin]

Taa Daaa!! There it is in the cross draw holster. That looks like what he must have been talking about. Same style of grip and gun.

[iamkris]

If you want some good leather fer that hawgleg, talk to Big Ed at San Pedro Saddlery. http://www.sanpedrosaddlery.com/frames.htm?

My CAS rig is from him. They make really fine holsters at reasonable prices. This one is his "Huckleberry" model (watch the movie, then you'll get it)

http://www.sanpedrosaddlery.com/images/huckleberry.JPG

Another place would be El Paso Saddlery. I don't have any of their product but they have a good rep. This is their Doc Holiday model
http://www.epsaddlery.com/
https://secure.aaa-servers.com/epsaddlery.com/images/products/prodid34.jpg

This is a lousy picture but it shows my rig from Big Ed
http://home.comcast.net/~krisnkelley/SHTF_Cowboy_Style.jpg

[Deanimator]

Tombstone is incredible! It's my favorite western, along with The Outlaw Josey Wales and Big Jake.

[ReadyontheRight]

Ike Clanton: What is that Holiday? Twelve hands in a row? Ain't nobody that lucky.
Doc Holliday: Why Ike, whatever do you mean? Maybe poker's just not your game. I know! Let's have a spelling contest!

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[Doc Holliday is drunkenly playing a somber piece on the saloon piano, and a drunken Cowboy is harassing him to play something by Stephen Foster]
Cowboy: Hey, is that "Old Dog Tray"? Sounds like "Old Dog Tray".
Doc: What?
Cowboy: Stephen Foster. "Oh, Susannah", "Camptown Races". Stephen stinking Foster.
Doc Holliday: Ah, yes. Well, this happens to be a nocturne.
Cowboy: A which?
Doc Holliday: You know, Frederic f****** Chopin.

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Doc: [After seeing Wyatt knock Swilling down with one blow] It appears he missed an excellent chance to keep his mouth shut.

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Vermillion: You really look awful.
Doc: Not half as bad as I feel.
Vermillion: Then why the hell're you doin' this? You ought to be in bed.
Doc: Wyatt Earp is my friend.
Vermillion: Hell, I got lot's of friends
Doc: I don't.

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Cowboy: Why, it's the drunk piano player. You're so drunk, you can't hit nothin'. In fact, you're probably seeing double.
[Cowboy draws a knife, and Doc Holliday takes out a second gun]
Doc Holliday: I have two guns, one for each of ya.

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:)

[iamkris]

RontheR

Great lines. Val Kilmer and the scriptwirter really did a great job on the Doc character. He makes the movie in my opinion.