Many eons ago, I remember reading in rec.guns a homemade copper removal system, very much like Outers Foul Out system.
It was much cheaper, and just as effective.
Anyone seen anything like this? I did try searching, but didn't get it narrowed down enough to find anything here.
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April 14, 2006, 11:53 PM
Lots of nice stuff here
April 15, 2006, 01:35 AM
I have built one.
They do, indeed, work...especially when you use a 9v battery!
April 16, 2006, 08:28 PM
Just what I was looking for!
I might not even build it until May 5 :D
April 16, 2006, 09:13 PM
Yes!! The standard Outers Foul Out was designed and built with such a low-power, power supply that any numb-skull could leave it on overnight and not have to worry about the barrel...... it works "ok" but it does take way too long.....
Here is what you can do to make the system much better........
1) Get the chemicals from Outers (for copper and/or lead)
2) get a .125" to .20" stainless steel solid rod (about 2" longer than the barrel you want to use it in).
3) some rubber grommets with the ID slightly smaller than the shaft you have
4) rubber stoppers to act as a plug at the breach end.
5) electrical aligator clips and some wire.
6) get a 9V battery and hook the positive to the frame of the firearm and the negative to the stainless rod.
When you hook it up, it works very fast. After about 15 seconds, pull the rod out, wipe it off and reinsert. After 30 seconds clean the rod again, and change the fluid.....Repeat maybe one or two times max.....
You will have a super-clean barrel....:D :D
I too have cut the standard power supply out of the loop and use a 9V battery. It usually works in less than 60 seconds per treatment. I put a Fluke 789 milliAmp meter in series to see when the current drops off. This is how to tell that either all the fouling is removed, or the rod and/or fluid needs to be changed.
I am through scrubbing:D
More barrels are ruined by overzealous cleaning than anything else....
April 16, 2006, 11:12 PM
Ditto on what the other posters mentioned. I use these on my "new" milsurps, and you would not believe the garbage that you get out. Even after using traditional cleaning methods involving Hoppes and Sweet's 7.62 with brushes and dozens of patches, the electronic bore cleaner still gets out an astonishing amount of crud. Sometimes I repeat this process two or three times before a bore is truly clean.
I also use a 9V battery, and simply use electrician's Permagum to seal the chamber. I suppose you could use tiny corks as well; I think the gum is cheaper. Finally, make sure you have plenty of rags handy. The bore cleaning solution foams up like crazy as soon as you turn the power on.
Good luck with the project. I believe the money you spend for the parts is a LOT cheaper than the time you'd spend trying to get the bore clean using patches and solvent. Then again, it's possible that I'm overestimating the importance of a truly clean barrel on a 50+ year old war relic.
April 17, 2006, 05:22 AM
Battlerifles forum had a good topic with instructions, some time ago, I'll see if I can find an exact link