Starline brass Vs Winchester?
Jmurman
April 22, 2003, 03:12 PM
I am planning a purchase for brass. I and considering either the Starline or Winchester. I will buy new unfired brass.
Any thoughts? What about +p brass, any difference?
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JohnK
April 22, 2003, 05:22 PM
I'm sure either will work for you, but if picking one over the other I'd go with Starline. I've used their brass for a long time in several different calibers and had a lot of success with it. From standard 9mm to some rather warm 44 Mag loads for a SRH it's never failed on me.
jjmorgan64
April 22, 2003, 06:40 PM
6 of one 7 of the other, doubt if you'll notice any diference, I havn't. Both are very good.
Mal H
April 22, 2003, 10:47 PM
Agreed, both are very good. If you had asked about choosing between Starline and R-P, there is no question that Starline would be my first choice in that case.
One advantage of Starline over more common brass that may or may not affect you is when picking up your brass at a range where lots of folks shoot the same caliber. You will know for sure that you have your own brass and not someone elses that may have been reloaded X number of times at who-knows-what pressure levels.
Jmurman
April 23, 2003, 05:17 AM
Thanks. My intention is to start with a 1000 or so and take it from there.
ACP230
April 23, 2003, 09:53 AM
I have used both Starline and Winchester and both have been good tough brass. I have found Starline to be a few bucks cheaper if both are bought new.
Mal H
April 23, 2003, 10:04 AM
... and shipping is included if you order directly from Starline. That could be the deciding factor if you order 1000 or so.
happy old sailor
April 24, 2003, 12:58 AM
re: picking up my brass at the range.
when loaded and in a box, it is easy to run a felt tip marker over the butt end and easily distinguish mine from their's. if others are doing this i use two lines of two diff colors. take a few felt tips along, just in case.
Cortland
April 24, 2003, 10:53 AM
I've read (I believe it was on Starline's site) that there is no difference between standard and +p brass for 9mm and .38 special (other than the head stamp). Apparently this is not true for .45 ACP (i.e. there is a difference between .45 and .45 +p brass).
WESHOOT2
April 26, 2003, 05:51 AM
45 ACP = IMI
45 Colt / 44 Magnum = Starline
others = all
mohican
April 29, 2003, 02:50 PM
I have used both, with success
Factory primed Winchester 44 mag brass used to be common, and I used it exclusivly until about 6 years ago. I have since started using Starline brass, and have been pleased with it's longetivity.
I seem to get a few more loadings/case with the Starline brass, and seemed to do more case trimming with Winchester brass.
Case life will depend on several things
1. How hot you load your ammo
2. how clean you keep your cases
3. how clean you keep the chamber (chambers in a revolver)
4. type of crimp/severity of crimp
with max load .44 mags, I would recommend 5-6 loadings/case with Winchester. You should get a few more loadings/case out of the starline.
Starline: advantage: less expensive, slightly better case life
winchester: advantage: almost every gun store has winchester cases
Wil Terry
April 29, 2003, 04:40 PM
Many years ago I wrote the first ever article on the STARLINE brass. I obtained 5000 cases, 500 of ten different calibers, and went through them one by one looking for the bad ones.
I found exactly one, a 40 case without a flashhole. I called Bobbie at STARLINE to tell him about it and I thought he was gonna go into cardiac arrest. At that time there were three checks for having a flashhole and he was dumbfounded that one case got by all the checks.
All the rest of the brass was quite simply OUTSTANDING stuff and I have used it extensively ever since with every satisfaction.
I do like W-W brass in 357MAG, 44SPL, and 44MAG.
Johnny Guest
April 29, 2003, 07:12 PM
Sorting out brass the other night and realized that most of the Winchester brass of recent vintage was nickel plated. I really don't know if their new, component, cases are plated or not.
I really like the Starline better, if for no other reason that it is unplated, with no cannalure.
I go out of my way to buy Starline in same cals as Terry. Since I stick pretty close to factory pressures in other calibers, especially the automatics, I care little which I get. I usually lose it before I wear it out, anyway.
Best,
Johnny
Desert Dog
April 29, 2003, 07:28 PM
I shoot .45 Super. Winchester does not make brass for that caliber. Starline does. I have some .45 Supers that have been loaded really warm 5 times and they appear to be ready for another round...
I shoot .45 Colt. Starline is my choice for this caliber because of word of mouth that it is simply the best thing this side of Federal brass, which is supposedly the best. All I know is I load some thunderboomers that would split Winchester .45 Colt brass...
YMMV,
Mike
coonan357
April 29, 2003, 10:12 PM
IMO starline good stuff, when I can get it cheap (not so often ) I get some , otherwise its winchester on the basis of avalibility , I do not like remington at all . I actually would get pmc over remington brass . My opinion .
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