[Don't Tread On Me]

Assuming the Republicans lose the Congress..what do you expect to happen to our RKBA?

[RealGun]

Bush WILL NOT sign it, because to have any hope of regaining a majority position the GOP will need to continue to appear to be the better choice for gun owners. He will not likely veto bills brought to him by a GOP majority, but he wouldn't hesitate with a bill produced by a Democrat majority. Forcing a veto override will just reinforce that it is a Democrat agenda.

Aside from that, any Democrat majority will be so narrow that I would think they would want to behave themselves. They don't want gun control bad enough to make their majority status short-lived.

[RealGun]

I don't think the Democrats chances are that good anyway. Republican seats will tend to stay that way because of a fundamental desire to protect a position on abortion.

[Maxwell]

Bush being a republican is no insurance against a gun law.
He would be happy to sign a ban on anything if it was part of getting through a more important project. So all they have to do is toss a sliver of social security reform or something next to the revised aw ban and its in.

If you dont believe that to be the case, review the 86 fopa.

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Bush has signed bills that he stated he opposed and considered unconstitutional (Campaign Finance Reform). Bush has also not vetoed a single bill so far in six years - and that includes when the Republicans did not control the Senate.

I suspect that if he gets gun control legislation, he will sign it. The upside of that is if he gets pro-gun legislation, he will sign that too. What kind of legislation he gets depends on what kind of legislators gun owners choose to send to Congress in November 2006.

[ball3006]

this coming November. What will happen is the dimocrats will continue to disrupt the illegal alien issue leading to Nov, then point out that the Republican majority cannot solve this issue and will run on a strong illegal alien issue. The American population is fed up with the illegal issue and Congress's inability to do anything about it so they will vote out any incumbent putting the dimocrats back into power........chris3

[xd9fan]

Well Dont tread we know what these two pro-Govt parties will do. Nothing will change because the american voter will keep repeating the same old bad habits of the last 50 years.

I have a problem with your question. Why would we give up the responsibility of our RTKABA's to any pro-Govt party???

Do you really think the FF's thought that yes these Rights are abolsute....but if you must...pick the lesser of the two evils. The difference btwn america's first generation and now is the first generation would never put up with this crap. And now most do. As soon as people start realizing that the Bill of Rights protection are not about right vs. left and that its about the "state" vs. YOU, we will start getting our Rights back and get rid of the limitless regulations and conditions.

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." Winston Churchill

This is exactly what gun owners do when they vote for the GOP thinking it will slow down the process.
Is that Liberty?

[Don't Tread On Me]

No it's not liberty and I agree with you. But it's buying time with the crocodile till we can get a 12ga slug and take it out.

[mp510]

Assuming the dems win, some stuff very well may be passed. Hopefully, Bush will remember us and veto it. I don't see them being able to push any UN treaties under our watch, but no way we can expect to get the nfa vetoed.

[cropcirclewalker]

Wow, I gotta pay attention.

I thought the democrats were in power NOW. :o

[mordechaianiliewicz]

We haven't reason to worry until a Democratic President is elected. Once that happens, all bets are off, and who knows what the future holds?

[Standing Wolf]

Jorge would sign anti-Second Amendment bigotry? Oh, surely you jest!

[silliman89]

RealGun nailed it in post #2.

[Molon Labe]

No matter what happens, more laws will be passed and more rights will be infringed upon.

So it doesn't matter.

[Molon Labe]

if he gets pro-gun legislation, he will sign that too.What is "pro-gun" legislation?

The only "pro-gun" thing Congress can do is repeal gun-control laws.

[mordechaianiliewicz]

I'll say right now, the Dems haven't exactly got this thing locked up, #1. (Kind of like they don;t have a guaranteed Presidency)

Everything depends upon how the Democrats play themselves and their image. They put Hillary up, and they probably don't get it.

My opinion is that no matter what, the Republicans need a Prez candidate that can play to a very pissed off base, and hope the Dems are stupid enough to put Hillary up so we can have battle royale.

While the Dems can afford to put up a moderate though (like a Warner from Virginia), the Republicans cannot. They will only make people stay home, or vote for 3rd Parties (like what happened when Clinton ran, and the Republicans didn't want to put up a real Conservative like Newtie.

[CAnnoneer]

Bush will sign any anti-2A bill that comes to his desk. It will be for compassion and for the children.

[Erebus]

I think that the Dems are way over estimating their fortune in Bush's low ratings. Just cause people disapprove of Bush's performance doesn't mean they agree with the Dems. The Dems don't seem to get that concept. If I hated Bush's guts with a passion it wouldn't be enough to get me to vote for a Dem that was anti.

For them to deserve more votes than an R then they need to demonstrate they have a better plan than the Rs. So far they haven't been able to demonstrate that they have a plan at all.

I don't care how long they drag it out it's common knowledge that they are in favor of amnesty as they see it as 12 million free votes for them. Anyone that is against amnesty will not vote for a D cause they think it's taking too long. They have been the party of obstruction for 10 years now.

[xd9fan]

You are right the dems are going to miss what is going on. The GOP is missing as well.

[American By Blood]

We haven't reason to worry until a Democratic President is elected. Once that happens, all bets are off, and who knows what the future holds?

The mists are parting and my crystal ball is giving me a clear vision of the future...

It won't happen as soon as a Dem gets elected in 2008, but after two terms of Dem leadership the country will once again be so culturally to the left that the upcoming UN small arms treaty will be officially ratified by Congress or back-door ratified by the Supreme Court (ala Roper v. Simmons) with barely a whimper to be heard from the public.

[stevelyn]

After November..........

We're screwed.........worse than we are now.:eek:

Jorge "It's Just A GD Piece of Paper" Bush isn't going to hesitate to sign anything that lands on his desk.

He already made a pledge to sign an AWB. What makes you think that he suddenly wouldn't?:scrutiny: The only reason he didn't was due to a pro-gun majority in the House.

The best we can hope for is to maintain a pro-gun majority in the House, gridlock in the Senate and loggerheads with both at Executive level.

[Kamicosmos]

I voted for the 'he will sign it' choice. He did say he'd sign the AWB if he got it, and I'm still steamed about him signing what he himself said was an unconstitional bill. So, if something came up, he'd sign it without even reading it.

But, I don't think there will be any significant gun bills brought up right away. They will wait till they have the White House, then they can pass whatever they want without worry. Why get something small through, like a new AWB, when you can wait till Hillary is in, and get the Whole Enchillada, so to speak?

Dark Days are ahead for us gun owners. Dark Days, indeed. :(

[Wiley]

As a weatherman here in ATL said about our summer weather : MOTS. More Of The Same.

[molonlabe]

After November the world as we know it will end. All firearms will be confiscated by the Democrats and everyone on this board and every other gun board will be shipped off to FEMA re-education camps.:neener:

[RealGun]

We'll see. The ratings for Congress are lower than the President's. That can be a mix of dissappointent in the GOP and contempt for Democrat obstructionism and whining. To me, that indicates voters will focus on individuals, and that incumbents are in for a struggle. The underlying fundamentals though will be concerns about religion-based social judgments and government checks, sad to say. I believe that gives the edge to the Democrats.

[xd9fan]

IMHO things will not seriouly change until the baby boomers retire and get out of the spotlight. The oldest ones just turned 60 Yrs old. If they think I am going to "going along" and pay for them....they got another thing comin. Once that the SS bills start pilling up (and if they see what they are doing to their own children...by this) things may change. But then the 70's "me generation" is not about fairness and freedom.

[Nathaniel Firethorn]

If the majority changes this election, then the lame duck Republican congress will pass some pro-2A legislation to tweak the Dems. Then the Dems will pass anti-2A legislation to tweak the Repubs.

Bush will sign it all.

- NF

[TheEgg]

"All politics are local." Tip O'Neal -- I think.

Anyway, the point is that people will vote on their Senators and Reps based on local political winds, not based on what people think of George Bush -- you see, Bush is not running for office anymore.

As a result, I really don't expect any drastic changes in the line up in the house and Senate - everyone always says they think the congress is doing a lousy job, until you ask about their own rep -- then they give them high marks (bringing home the bacon, don't ya know).

[seeker_two]

When the Dems start attaching anti-gun amendments to Bush's Iraq-Attack military budget or his "Free Pablo"-guest-worker program, Bush won't be able to sign them into law fast enough....

Best start stocking up now....