[MCgunner]

I went to Wallyworld the other day and Winchester USA and Remington were up around 8 bucks and change, normally $5.97. Went over to the sporting goods counter after picking up my steaks and juice for the grandkid and I see it's back down to six something for Winchester and Remington and black box Blazer brass is 5.97! Not that I'm complaining, but the stuff seems to be fluctuating like gasoline prices lately. Is there speculation in the lead commodities or what's up with it? Anyone know?

I bought the Blazer. Never fired this stuff. Hope it's as accurate as Remington and Winchester USA, not that they're that great, but they're fine for practice ammo.

[Rob1035]

ammo prices seem to be going up across the board. Be happy you're shooting 9mm instead of 10mm, .357sig, or some of the other more expensive pistol rounds (.460:neener: )


FWIW-blazer brass was terribly inaccurate in my CZ85, but your results may vary

[Wags]

I only own 9mm auto's, but have never fired WWB ammo to date. A good friend who owns a large gun business in Wisconsin claims the WWB is not up to par with other Winchester 115gr FMJ that they sell? Only the facts I've heard. Maybe Winchester is pumping out "better quality" WWB ammo, and there is a war going on as I write that uses WCC ammo? This would be my only guess of a price increase........ Better quality ammo being produced, plus demand from Uncle Sugar and his war effort.

[MCgunner]

ammo prices seem to be going up across the board. Be happy you're shooting 9mm instead of 10mm, .357sig, or some of the other more expensive pistol rounds (.460 )

I shoot .357, 45, etc, but I reload. I reload 9, too, but at the prices I'd been getting the stuff, it ain't worth crankin' up the Dillon. :D I can load cast bullets for a couple bucks less, but casting and sizing is a pain when you shoot quite a bit of 9mm. Sure is nice to pick up a box for about what .22 mags cost. :D

Wonder if the war is using THAT much nine???? I mean, they shoot a lot more 7.61x51, .50, 5.56, 20mm, even 40mm over there than 9s, I'd think.

Oh well, I guess I'll find out if the Blazer is crap. :D Might have shoulda spent another buck. LOL! I've had absolutely no problem with Winchester USA. It shoots slightly above POA with the P11 at 25 yards and pretty close to dead on with the P85. The Remington seems to shoot just slightly higher. Both are acceptably accurate for practice ammo. The steel plates get their bells run, anyway.

[possum]

bought 500 rds of blaser brass, and have shot 100rds of it so far and it seemed to do good for me, out of my ruger kp95. at 10 meters doing rapid fire drills it was 48 out of 50 points (10rds w/ 5,4,3,2 score rings) all day long, and 50 for 50 at slow rate of fire it was tearing up the five zone. at 25 it did good, my problem isn't the ammo it is me; because i haven't gotten extremely good at that range yet. but they all hit a vital area of the target, i can tell you that. i also bought some in blaser brass .40 i will let you know how that does and after the range this weekend i will tell you more about the blaser brass 9mm!

[Slinger]

MCGUNNER,

I can't speek for the 9mm Blazer Brass, but I can tell you I had a couple of boxes in 45ACP that caused me some problems. It seemed that the bullets were not crimped tightly enough in the cases. I had a couple that the bullets got jammed down in the cases when they cycled in my 1911 causing a failure to feed. Yikes! I'm talking jammed down so far that you could see it with your eye.

I have not bought a box since then.

[JohnKSa]

The blazer does have more of a tendency to setback than brass cartridge ammo.

But if your gun is setting them that far back during normal feeding, it might need some attention...

[possum]

The blazer does have more of a tendency to setback than brass cartridge ammo

I thought we were talking about the blaser brass, if not that is what I was referring to as having experience with, not the regular blazer. you guys were reffering to the blaser brass cased right? i'm confused!:confused:

[Slinger]

Yes my line was about Blazer Brass in .45 ACP. Not aluminum.

[JNewell]

It seemed that the bullets were not crimped tightly enough in the cases. I had a couple that the bullets got jammed down in the cases when they cycled in my 1911 causing a failure to feed.

Interesting. I've shot may cases of 9x19 and .40 aluminum case Blazer and never had that problem! That would certainly be a pain. Did CCI replace the ammo?

[possum]

Yes my line was about Blazer Brass in .45 ACP. Not aluminum

ok good we were on the same page!:)

[treeprof]

Look at the commodities market. Raw material prices are skyrocketing: copper is up nearly 2x over the past 2 years and at record (inflatation adjusted) highs. World copper reserves are at their lowest ever, as are reserves of copper alloys like brass. The price of the other principal constituent in brass - zinc - is up over 50% since early March of this year. There's been news about this recently specifically with respect to the impact on ammo prices. And it's only going to get worse.

[silicon wolverine]

local class 3 dealer was firing a MAC-10 .45 with blazer and had a round predetonate while the bolt was still halfway open. It appeared the aluminum casings didnt have the strength to hold up when they fired from an open bolt weapon. (side note: most open bolt guns actually fire the round while the bolt is still traveling forward). Just thoguht id give you guys a warning.

SW

[Kenneth Lew]

1.29 per lb. for scrap brass here.

[Soybomb]

ocal class 3 dealer was firing a MAC-10 .45 with blazer and had a round predetonate while the bolt was still halfway open. It appeared the aluminum casings didnt have the strength to hold up when they fired from an open bolt weapon. (side note: most open bolt guns actually fire the round while the bolt is still traveling forward). Just thoguht id give you guys a warning.
I've actually heard several people with this problem, I think its quite sound advice for people with smg's/open bolt guns to not fire aluminum cased ammo in them.

[Billy_H]

Funny....my father in law went to Wal-Mart and asked for a 100rd box of WWB which normally sells for $11. They were out and the guy behind the counter offered the 50rd box. At first my father in law declined, figuring it would be more expensive that way...but it was actually $4 and change for the box of 50. So, he picked me up some as well. :)