[daysleeprx]

I thought I'd start a new thread since my last one got a bit...off track.

A couple of weeks ago I posted a range report about the CZ SP-01

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=193533&highlight=daysleeprx

Basically, the gun was great except an FTE problem. A few people wanted an update after I tried a few things, so here it is.

After posting that thread, I took the advice of several people who responded and ordered an Wolff extra power extractor spring for the gun. I installed it, and the FTEs went away, but a new problem popped up: the gun now had occasional FTFs. I talked to Walt Sherill and also Jim Miossi of Miossi Gun Works (Super nice guy by the way, definitely do not hesitate to get in touch with him if you have any CZ questions). Jim recommended I re-install the extractor spring in case anything got kinked during the initial install, and also recommended either a 16 or 18lb recoil spring as well.

So today I went to the range with the reinstalled Wolff extractor spring and an 18lb Wolff recoil spring in the gun, and took the same assortment of ammo I took the first time out (100 rounds each of WWB 115g FMJ, WWB 115g JHP, and CCI Blazer).

Well, I'm happy to report that all the problems seem to have gone away. I did have ONE stovepipe, but I definitely think that was my fault (Limpwristing...I also shot a few hundred rounds of .45 today too so my arm was pretty fatigued) :D

Gun shoots great...I really love the soft recoil and exceptional accuracy. In fact, now I've got my eye on a CZ P01.....hmmmmmm :D

[BamBam-31]

Great news! Glad it worked out for you. :)

Props to Walt and Jim for their support.

Can't wait to get my SP-01! :D

[dairycreek]

Hello daysleeprx!

Thanks for the follow up. So many folks complain about their gun, enumerate its many faults, and just leave it at that. By following up with the remedy you show honor, good sense and class. Many thanks.

[daysleeprx]

Thank you dairycreek! I'm glad I could be of some help.

Just for the record, the total cost of these "fixes" were about $20 (including shipping!). Definitely worth the investment if you ask me. Especially since CZs are pretty reasonably priced to begin with.

[CZguy]

Thanks for the follow up. So many folks complain about their gun, enumerate its many faults, and just leave it at that. By following up with the remedy you show honor, good sense and class. Many thanks.


Well said. :)

But for goodness sake stop talking about CZs or the price will go up again. :D

[Litlman]

Glad to hear it. Enjoy! Your CZ collection may now grow! ( Many have started out with only one).

[CZguy]

Glad to hear it. Enjoy! Your CZ collection may now grow! ( Many have started out with only one).
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Litlman.....


Yep, that's how it starts all right. :)

[eerw]

Glad you got yours working...they are really nice guns..and you will enjoy it..

now..go find a USPSA club and shoot some production competition..you will get hooked on two very cool things...

yep..the CZ collection will continue to grow..

just purchased a CZ40p and now waiting for it to arrive....I hate waiting..

[BevrFevr]

were very similar to those with my 75b. I just got an extractor spring and will install it this weekend.

I also added +15% mag springs to my orginal cz mags to make sure that next round was slapped into positon asap.

How many rounds have you put through it before you pronounced it good to go?

I have the ok to buy one last gun before all my cash goes for a new project or two. I was strongly considering and SP-01.

I would be very interested to hear you shoot say 500 rounds and see how many feeding problems you have.

[BevrFevr]

I got confused, it looks like you did shoot 400 rounds of different ammo types. Only one stovepipe ain't too bad and I could live with that. Hopefully I will have the same luck as you.

[eerw]

BevrFevr

I do hope you have good luck...

I have had two SP01s..( had to sell one, but will replace it later this year) and both shot incredibly well and with a wide assortment of ammunition..

My current one has a few thousand rounds through it with no malfunctions at all...I use it for USPSA production competition and it is serving me well. My first CZ was a 75b and it was just as good..so I have been happy with my experience with CZ guns..and I have recommended them to several shooters in my area clubs..

anyway..I wish you good fortune and that your next experience is a good one.

[BevrFevr]

Thanks. I got to shoot a $1000 dollar hk the other day. Absolutely, a premium weapon in evry respect. The trigger had way to much pretravel and it was sproingy/ The break was sweet though. Grip was a bit blockey too.

The point to this story is that it helped me realise is how many things I have grwon used to in my cz. I just want one that is very reliable.

[Pilot]

A good ideas when replacing the recoil spring with a stronger one is to also replace the magazine springs of all your mags with higher power mag springs. Wolff sells them also. It allows the mag to "keep up" with the faster slide return. CZ's are notoriously under sprung. They are becoming my favorite pistol line however, so I order from Wolff regularly.

[daysleeprx]

Good idea on the mag springs. Any idea if the Wolff springs will fit into the SP-01 mags?

[Pilot]

Any idea if the Wolff springs will fit into the SP-01 mags?

Are they the 16 rounders? I'm not sure. If you call Wolff they will know.

[daysleeprx]

SP-01 mags are 18 rounds.

[eerw]

SP01 mags are about 1/2 longer than the std 16rnd factory mag..some or most will hold 19 rounds..but the spring they come with is a thinner guage than the 16 round mags..

Not sure if there is enough length..but I was going to order a set this week to see how they fit..

[helpwanted]

limpwristing.. uh yea, sure.

[daysleeprx]

...? Care to elaborate?

[BevrFevr]

But lots of us don't believe in limpwristing. Some of us think it is an overused way of blaming the shooter for a gun problem.

I think the term was invented about the time glocks made it main stream which also coincides with the explosion of the internet.

Funny there was no mention of it in the 100 years of previous auto pistol use. More a figment of the internet than any thing real.

[Pilot]

But lots of us don't believe in limpwristing. Some of us think it is an overused way of blaming the shooter for a gun problem.

I've seen it happen when my wife tried to shoot some semi autos that are 100% reliable for me and others. When she shot them they either stovepiped or the slide failed to laock open on the last round. It happened with every mag in a G17, XD9 and even my Sig P228. Again all have never hiccuped for me. The two guns of mine that have been 100% for her and never displayed limp wristing issues are my BHP, 1911A1, CZ-75B and CZ-75D PCR. Polymer seems to exacerbate the problem.

[CZguy]

But lots of us don't believe in limpwristing. Some of us think it is an overused way of blaming the shooter for a gun problem.


I have had experiences just like Pilot with my wife shooting a pistol that works flawlessly for me, but stove pipe jammed for her.

While I'll admit that limp wristing is more of a issue in polymer framed pistols the term has been around much longer than Glocks, or the internet. I first heard about it in reference to 1911 .45 ACP in the 1960s.

[BevrFevr]

Ok, I'll give you that limp wristing can happen but still the cz sp-01 is one big hunk of steel. Not the most likely candidate for limp wristing. Especially when it has already had feeding problems.

[atblis]

and I haven't been able to get it to jam. Bump firing a 6 round burp oughta do it, and it didn't (light triggers are great). That being said, I do think the limp wristing thing exists, the SP01 is just not a good candidate for it.

[Pilot]

the cz sp-01 is one big hunk of steel. Not the most likely candidate for limp wristing.

Agreed. This one should work. Like I said the full size, all steel autos work for her, and so does the alloy framed PCR, but polymer? Foggedaboutit.

[wally]

If you say limp wristing caused a faiulre to feed or a failure to extract (where the empty is all or partially still in the chamber and the round below is jammed against it) then I agree and say limpwristing is total BS.

OTOH a very high percentage of stovepipes *are* caused by limpwristing. I've seen it with my own eyes. My sister (totally novice shooter) was doing it with my Beretta Jetfire .25ACP. I couldn't believe it, totally 100% reliable up till then. Standing off a bit to the side I could see what was happening. The empty cleared the port but her grip was so loose the gun came up and caught the empty as the slide came forward. Firming up her grip cured the problem. This a strong reason novice or casual shooters should use a revolver for self-defense.

--wally.