Discussing guns at work.


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TheArchDuke
April 27, 2006, 11:40 AM
The inventory team I work on stayed late one night and we were all clocking out at the same time. It was somebody's 21st birthday and were on the subject. My boss (tattoed, mohawked 20-something...cool guy) asked me what I planned to do for my 21st. I said, "buy a handgun". As soon as I said it, I realised who I was with. (People at my work don't seem to gun-friendly). My boss asked, "Why would you even want a gun?" I didn't really say anything. I thought I was going to officially be the gun nut at my work. We all have nicknames. But it turned out pretty good. A few other people who were there have come up to me and said that they enjoy shooting too. I got me some new gun-buddies to talk to on lunch now.


Gun and work situations don't always turn out bad. Unless you actually BRING your gun. I can imagine how that might cause a stir.

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JoseM
April 27, 2006, 12:24 PM
My bossman is canadian and very anti-gun. We've had a few "discussions" about gun and he's VERY misinformed...

He'll say things like, "A gun is more likely to be used and kill someone you know than to prevent a crime....and that's a fact".

NO, that's a totally misrepresented "fact". These numbers also take into fact that a good bit of gun crimes are drug related ganbangers that "know the victim".

But I couldn't bring guns to work no matter what...I work for a small municipality and I can't bring firearms onto campus here.

Just_a_dude_with_a_gun
April 27, 2006, 12:30 PM
Tell your 'Boss' that normal, hardworking, family oriented gun owners is what makes America a place a 'foreigner' would want to come to live and make a career. Kind of like HIM. Socialist jackass.


My bossman is canadian and very anti-gun. We've had a few "discussions" about gun and he's VERY misinformed...

He'll say things like, "A gun is more likely to be used and kill someone you know than to prevent a crime....and that's a fact".

NO, that's a totally misrepresented "fact". These numbers also take into fact that a good bit of gun crimes are drug related ganbangers that "know the victim".

But I couldn't bring guns to work no matter what...I work for a small municipality and I can't bring firearms onto campus here.

Lupinus
April 27, 2006, 12:32 PM
I will on occasion but I pretty much have given up. The amount of stupidity from some coworkers and the amount of biting my tongue I need to do as a result makes it sore after awhile.

Stiletto Null
April 27, 2006, 12:37 PM
One of the new guys where I work is actually into guns; I mentioned my milsurp collection, and he was like "damn, you really like those ComBloc guns". Pretty cool.

'Card
April 27, 2006, 12:39 PM
I'm in the construction industry in the south. Talking about guns at work is about as unusual for us as talking about the weather, women, and college football. Hell, at the office we sometimes get 5 or 6 guys together (these are company execs and administrators, mind you) on an ammo buy if we can save a bunch by buying in bulk.

Sindawe
April 27, 2006, 01:06 PM
There really are not any gun people at my workplace. One dude hunts, but thats the extent of his interest in firearms, and my boss has not fired a weapon since basic training in the 70s. *SIGH*

Previous job, I was surrounded by gun people of all stripes. One guy would talk about his Glock 18 all the time (never saw it) and would always be happy to take the spent 9 mm casing off my hands (I don't reload). Another chap and I would discuss guns and politcs on the floor inbetween tales of his fun working for BASF or hunting turkeys in Texas. Such talk would make the lefties on the crew nervous, to which we would retort

"Look, we are here surrounded by high pressure steam lines, strong acids and bases, pressurized tanks of carbon monoxide and buckets full of ammonium nitrate, and you're freaked by a little talk of our hobbies? You're not in Massachusetts anymore dude." Unless you actually BRING your gun. I can imagine how that might cause a stir. One of our Maintenance crew did bring a shot gun to work once, just to show off his purchase. It did create a bit of a stir, but only due to the rest of us admiring it. HR never found out about it, just like they never found out about the time somebody hired a stripper for a Supv. Birthday.

sm
April 27, 2006, 01:10 PM
Older returning college student.
State regs and legal signs "No CCW".

I visit with some instructors about guns, shooting and hunting in class, in the hall, outside.

The other night in one IT class we were talking guns as we config-ed routers and such. Instructor bought his 5 y/o a New .22 single shot, a Marlin lever action in 30-30, and six more 30 rds mags for something, and then he shared how surprised his wife was to find out there is about 20K rds of .223.

"2k more round came in,when the wife answered the door- I cannot wait until the brown truck show up with all the 9mm that I ordered today".

Seems the wife noticed "her stash" of 9mm a bit low...so being the nice hubby he is, instructor ordered her some. Mom's day the kids are giving mom a second CCW to match the one she carries as a backup, and holster too.

He paid $100 for that NIB Marlin 336, fella bought it, never shot it and nasty divorce hit. He will keep it for him, times get better let the guy buy it back.

Just have get a feel for what is best to discuss and with whom is all.

One classmate is going to bring the HDDs he shot with his .454 and .338.
IT class, we might need to know this for future use..."partition a HDD", or "total erase".

DoubleTapDrew
April 27, 2006, 01:20 PM
I'm fortunate in this respect. It's a family owned business (my family) of about 200 employees. The company actually had a FFL for a while before they got tired of all the red tape a couple years ago. We had a cool guy in shipping that shot 3 gun and was a huge 10mm fan. I brought in my AR and Sprinfield XD when I got them to show him. One of the other guys walked back when he was checking out the EO Tech on the AR aiming it at a parts bin (unloaded/no mag obviously) and didn't think anything of it.
Unfortunately I think there are more lefties getting hired here and not as many of us 'good ol boys' so the conversations about guns aren't as frequent :(

gulogulo1970
April 27, 2006, 01:26 PM
Some offices it could be kind of hairy to bring it up. Feel them out by mentioning something like I shot skeet or do you hunt, etc.

I work in a lab owned by a couple of sportsmen. I even arranged a work lunchtime range trip. That was fun, I even got a guy who doesn't shoot to go and later that year I helped him pick out his first handgun.

I'm a Gun Evanglist.

Radjxf
April 27, 2006, 01:36 PM
I work in a hospital and definately don't bring them up. Lots of "guns cause crime" type idiots around here. I've already been identified as the gun nut since I own more than one firearm:eek:

romma
April 27, 2006, 01:39 PM
Talk here is pretty common among a couple of us. My co-worker who sits at the desk across from me is into shooting. In fact, we are going after work today. The talk is tolerated here from us because the company is owned by a shooter as well and we kind of get a "pass". Right now under my desk is my Kahr PM-9, my Walther .380, my hip pocket has my Kel-tec p-32 and in the back room sits my Bushy ar-15... We both had to get work done on our vehicles and didn't want to keep guns in the vehicles. Oh, underneath my co-workers desk sits a G-19... Can't wait to get out there today... ;)

ball3006
April 27, 2006, 01:53 PM
has a M-60 and a M-16......................:D chris3

stealthcarry
April 27, 2006, 02:10 PM
Not only do most everyone i work with KNOW i'm the resident gun nut, they're all probably kind of tired of hearing me talk about it...:D

Steve 48
April 27, 2006, 02:17 PM
I work at several school districts and I just usually keep my mouth shut. There are way too many liberals at schools and you can get into quite a discussion about guns, etc.. So, I just keep my yap closed. Steve 48

mp510
April 27, 2006, 02:27 PM
Don't usually say a word. Sometimes I'll test people if I think they might be friendly, and if I find out their cool maybe, but usually know.

SolaScriptura139
April 27, 2006, 02:29 PM
I've mentioned my love for guns at about every job I've had. Most people I've encountered actually seem very interested in shooting, but expressed a certain hesitancy about it, being that most of them had never even seen a gun up close.

Working Man
April 27, 2006, 02:36 PM
It is common knowledge that I am the gun guy at my work.

They keep seeing me on THR. :evil:

Sgt Stevo
April 27, 2006, 02:40 PM
My boss has has model 66 locked in his desk. we all know the key is. Sometimes gangbangers and such, show up to see the dogs.

But I feel pretty safe , the thirty protection trained sheps, mals and rotts, make me feel all warm and fuzzy.

I carry at work when I am alone though. For lots of reasons.

BozemanMT
April 27, 2006, 02:43 PM
I work in liberal heckville (boulder)
and I'm the known gun nut.
and I could care less, keeps the weirdo's out of my office and they definately don't piss me off much.:cool:
Gotten at least 5 people into shotgun shooting and one guy to join my range.
We are all hidden, be more obvious and just push the liberals back under their hidey hole.

Janitor
April 27, 2006, 03:24 PM
I work for a largish software support organization.

Early this morning, a co-worker that I had purchased a revolver from brought me the box he had found for it. All day, I've had this blue S&W box that prominantly declares 'DA Revolver' all over it on the desk next to my office door. A LOT of people have come in here, and walk by the open door during the day.

So far, the only acknowledgement of the box (that you cannot miss if you even glance in my direction) was my boss who jokingly checked to make sure it (the box) was empty. Nobody else seems to care about it.

--

There are about 8-10 of us that get together once or twice a month to go shooting at lunch. I found these guys within a week of starting to work here.

--

I'm assuming that there are antis here, but they pretty much keep to themselves. Too bad - I'd like to see one (or more of them) come shooting with us some fine afternoon so maybe they can see what it's all about. :)

/j

sterling180
April 27, 2006, 04:18 PM
Quote: "Why would you even want a gun?"

Before I joined the Navy,I disscussed the pleasures of shooting sports with some of my peers-when I was at high-school and the response that I got was suprisingly varied.My best friend from high-school was and is-to this day- not bothered about my interest,nor were a few others-but some others were concerned that I might turn into a person who had similar traits to the "Hungerford or any other mass-murdering psycho" and would almost certainly go on a crazy killing-spree with my personal collection of guns.

However I was a member of my high-schools drama group and I was allowed by my drama teacher and principal to bring in a .38 S&W blank-firing replica and a Colt Python balnk-firing replica revolver,for the guy who played Seymour Krellborn in our production of:"Little Shop of Horrors".Now this guy was pleased that I brought in two fake-but believeable revolvers-instead of a silly childs lone-star cap-gun- for the use in the play.He selected the Python over the .38,but the actor who played Mushnik wanted the .38,-so that he could use in the confrontational scene-later on in the show,just before Mushnik gets eaten.

Unfortunately I got a similar anti reaction whilst I attended North-West Kent College,where one of my fellow peers said in very abrupt terms:"You know too much about guns and you're beginning to scare people-especially the girls".Just before,I had only talked to a pro-gun student about a S&W M29,when the others objected.I was considered to be such a psycho-that the girls in my class almost shunned me completely.But I managed to talk them out of it,but saying that I got intersted in guns because of military interests,Drama,video games,etc.

When I joined the Navy,I was in a world where shooting is considered to be normal activity and I am amongst very-few biased individuals-that completely hate guns and shooting-sports.I have made some good friends at my civillian club and in the Naval service gun club-which is always very pleasing indeed.:) :)

Deanimator
April 27, 2006, 04:24 PM
Does trying to talk your boss into buying a Browning Hi Power count? :)

I NEVER sit down to eat in a restaurant without something to read, usually a gun book or magazine of some kind.

A few weeks ago, one of the local lawyers came by the office to have me clear a couple of handguns one of his clients was going to sell or give away when he went into the hospice. Had an S&W M&P revolver and a S&W Model 59 (yecch!) Too bad the M&P was pitted.

chas_martel
April 27, 2006, 04:29 PM
I am so glad I don't have this problem.

Gun discussions around here are things like,
did you bring enough ammo for lunch today.
Or people seeing me use the only remaining
typewriter in DFW to fill out Form 4's.

danurve
April 27, 2006, 04:31 PM
Discussing shooting at work has cost me some money.

Friend of mine in the office got me into reloading. :neener:

Other then that most of the people at work know I hunt / shoot but so far only one other has gone shooting on an invitation to the range.

bpisler
April 27, 2006, 04:39 PM
We would talk about gun in general no
matter who was around except for the
owner.One of his sons was shot and
killed a couple of years ago so we
kept quite around him.

Sry0fcr
April 27, 2006, 04:48 PM
A coworker of mine brought a CD of some video with him tearing it up with a few of his and his buddies MG's. Sig 552, MP5, M16 with SHRIKE upper, ect. :D

creampuff
April 27, 2006, 04:54 PM
I stay below the radar here in PRK. My boss thinks anyone who owns guns is "postal". I have received two questions of "How can you own guns, I thought you were a Christian?".

The hippocracy of the situation is when I watch the coworkers who are supposedly too "civilized" to own guns treat others so rudely it resembles pre-school.

RandomMan
April 27, 2006, 05:14 PM
Discuss guns at work? Well, my boss packs a .45 everyday. :D Of course, my boss is my dad...I wonder where I got this whole "gun nut" thing from? Can't be from him...nah...

Not discussing guns at work, would be like not discussing cars, or work in general at work. It would simply be weird.

-Rob

Stiletto Null
April 27, 2006, 05:24 PM
I stay below the radar here in PRK. My boss thinks anyone who owns guns is "postal". I have received two questions of "How can you own guns, I thought you were a Christian?".Luke 22:36, along with a whole slew of Catholic catechisms which state that to prevent an innocent's death by killing the attacker is righteous, and a bunch of other stuff.

"Turn the other cheek" refers to insults, not actual assault.

cbsbyte
April 27, 2006, 05:55 PM
It depends on where your work, at Ruger or a gun store etc it probably is ok. :p But anywhere else it probably is not a good idea in todays PC climate. Most people are probably fine about it but in reality most people find it a pain to listen to someone talk about a topic they have no interest in, especailly something as highly polarizing as firearms. If you and a co-worker like guns, then talking about it on your own time, but don't bring up the subject with other people around who don't want to listen. It's being polite.

rritter
April 27, 2006, 06:22 PM
I don't talk about them much, but I don't hide my interest, either. At the base of my monitor is a nice line-up of empty cases - one each from each caliber I own. From .22 short through .45 ACP to .30-06 - 20 small metal tubes. I like to keep souvenirs. :)

Impala
April 27, 2006, 06:23 PM
I work at a department store and have a couple of gun buddies that I can talk about guns with. I just make sure to limit it near the customers.
On several occasions I have heard my boss talking about guns,hunting,etc. so I guess It's a pretty common thing where I live. (we have 5 gun stores in my city:) ). I suppose it's a little better than living in a liberal state like "************" ... (I feel sorry for you right wing conservatives that live there, I really do it must suck being the minority, constantly surrounded by brainless smelly hippie trash)
anyways that's enough ranting for now, I need a smoke.

Matthew748
April 27, 2006, 07:09 PM
I work in a small office and the subject has come up once or twice. A couple people were interested in shooting, but had no real drive to actually try it for themselves. The biggest surprise came from the owner. We were talking one day about shooting in general and he said that he felt that gun laws were basically meaningless and detrimental to the common person. Criminals never seem to have problems getting guns and causing chaos, so why punish the law abiding? I was very impressed to hear this coming from someone who does not even own a gun.

Harold Mayo
April 27, 2006, 08:13 PM
one of my fellow peers said in very abrupt terms:"You know too much about guns and you're beginning to scare people-especially the girls".

Ah, yes...TOO MUCH knowledge of something is bad. That said at a place of "higher learning"....:rolleyes:

I would be hesitant to claim the man as a peer.

Perhaps he knows "too little".

hso
April 27, 2006, 08:35 PM
No problem for me. I work in a science and engineering firm full of professionals performing environmental work. Many of them are shooters and hunters. Almost all are geologist or engineers. I can't imagine any of them don't know I'm an avid shooter and RKBA advocate. None of them have a problem with it because I don't act like a jackass when someone says something We know to be false. I just try very hard to turn it into a joke about how there are so many myths around firearms these days due to silly TV programs (always blame TV and movies) and that, "In fact, the DOJ crimes statistics...". The typical analytical sort at the office is pretty receptive to facts instead of myths.

Of course some do comment that the Safety Guy has more guns and knives than anyone else.:evil:

nbkky71
April 27, 2006, 08:53 PM
I'm lucky because I work with a bunch of shooters. I've convinced three of them into shooting NRA highpower with me!

Standing Wolf
April 27, 2006, 09:12 PM
I've never been ashamed of keeping and bearing arms. I never will be.

cracked butt
April 28, 2006, 03:07 AM
Just started a new job this week. When I interviewed with my supervisor, he asked me of my hobbies I ran down the lst of them then finished with "High Power Rifle competitor" He said "That's pretty neat"
:)
Unfortunately, the workplace is one of those "violence free workplaces" that I have to drive through a crappy neighborhood to get to, so it'd be in my best interest not to advertise things.

crazed_ss
April 28, 2006, 03:21 AM
I discuss guns at work sometimes.. most everyone who works with me are prior military so most arent deathly afraid of guns and gun-talk like many people are. People crack jokes sometimes and I know they're being funny, but it really makes me mad deep down.

Like someone will come up to ask me a question about the range, and someone else will cut in with some stupid comment like "watch for this guy, he's crazy!" .. I know they're messing around, but I think it's extremely insulting.

Lately I dont bring up any gun topics.. if someone asks me a question, I help them out.. but I dont start a discussion anymore.

Clean97GTI
April 28, 2006, 04:02 AM
my last job, I kept my shooting habits quiet. I worked by myself, but constantly had customers coming in from all over the country and discussing controversial issues just wasn't smart.

the job before that was a lot different. I worked in a shop and most of the guys were gun owners and a few gun nuts. The company gave everyone 3 hours off on Good Friday. Some guys went to church, others took a long lunch. 3 or 4 of us always went to the range.

gruvinbass
April 28, 2006, 06:28 AM
I work construction in the south...I'd be willing to bet that 3 out of every 4 trucks on a job site have a gun of some kind in them :D

CajunBass
April 28, 2006, 08:53 AM
Anyone at work, who doesn't know I'm into shooting isn't paying attention. Does anyone mind? I have no idea, and don't give a hoot if they do. I no more ask if they mind "The American Rifleman" on my desk than I would ask if they mind the Bible on top of it.

aguyindallas
April 28, 2006, 09:01 AM
All the time. Heck, I shoot IDPA with one of my co-workers.

Many of the people I work with know I am a shooter including the owner and general manager. No big deal, they shoot too.

We bought a Colt 6920 as a Christmas gift for the owner a couple years ago.

neoncowboy
April 28, 2006, 09:42 AM
I work in aviation and have noticed there is a large crossover between pilots and gunnies. Still, guns in the workplace (even as a discussion topic) has a way of making even some pro-gun folks nervous.

Every bullet has a lawyer attached to it and all.

I have laid down a few groud rules for discussing guns in the workplace:
1. Let someone else bring it up. If they do (and they do...regularly) participate in the discussion (usually which gun, which holster, which bullets, etc).

2. Don't *ever* acknowledge carrying concealed, even if directly asked. I have been asked and while a few people know I carry, I always just suggest that to ask bluntly whether someone is carrying concealed or not is poor etiquette. I think that reinforces the notion that concealed means just that.

I thank God regularly for having a job where I can carry at work and generally be around plenty of gun loving folks.

mrmeval
April 28, 2006, 09:46 AM
I live in a state where guns are commonly used. Talking about them is not a problem.

For those of you who have to put up with whiners get a shirt with this on it.

"If guns kill people can I blame mispelled words on my pencil?"

VARifleman
April 28, 2006, 12:55 PM
My boss is an FFL and several of my coworkers are military or former military, one of which was talking about getting a tacted out AR while on lunch break while we were putting some new refractory into a condo's boiler.

dartos
April 28, 2006, 03:09 PM
I work in surgery and was amazed at the number of my physician friends that own and discuss guns, reloading, hunting, etc., the doctors lounge is stocked with NRA magazines and I have found that a number of the M.D.'s have CCW permits (as do I ), I NEVER mention that I am carrying or display my weapon,

When called in for emergency surgery at 2AM, I prefer to carry, on more than one occasion I've been approached by someone seeking drugs, they assume we carry drugs with us, NOT!, they were already so stoned I calmly suggested they go down the street and maybe they could find some there, they shook their head, cussed and walked away.

Luck has been on my side, but.. I'm ready if things go south quickly!

rchernandez
April 28, 2006, 03:22 PM
Our building is posted...so no guns at work!

I do have a photo of the Benelli MP95E that I shoot in Bullseye matches pinned on my side wall along with a "cleaned" B3 target sheet.

In my part of Tennessee, it's more surprising to hear that one doesn't own a gun! Hehe

jonnyc
April 28, 2006, 03:27 PM
I teach in a public high school and LOVE talking guns whenever I get the chance. Screw 'em.

Nitrogen
April 28, 2006, 03:27 PM
I have talked about guns at my current workplace. I feel now that's a mistake.

As I posted on another forum:


Yet another reason to keep it to yourself:
It's pretty well known to my coworkers that I'm pro-gun. I've got some political cartoons up around my work area, as well as an NRA poster.
I've never discussed carrying, or showed anyone my carry gun, but I guess they just assume I carry.

We're going out to lunch last Friday. There's 4 of us in one car (not mine, i'm not driving btw). Someone cuts us off in the middle of the parking lot. The driver opens his window and begins yelling some creative obscenities at the driver in front of us. The driver in front of us sticks his middle finger out the window, and it ends there.

The following conversation ensued afterward:
Passenger: "Chill out! Just let that guy be! you never know what he'll do! He might have a gun and shoot us!"
Driver: "Yeah, but we've got [Nitrogen] with us, i'm sure he's got a gun stashed away somewhere!"

Lovely. So now my coworkers think i'm Rambo; and will help them shoot our way out of trouble.

if that guy had come out with a gun, i'd have been the first out of the door running in the opposite direction if possible.

Thrash1982
April 28, 2006, 03:44 PM
Working Man
It is common knowledge that I am the gun guy at my work.

Ditto!

A lot of people in my office are shooters and a lot of those who don't shoot as a hobby have expressed interest in learning. And I'm more than happy to help. We regularly talk guns at the office.

.45man
April 28, 2006, 04:10 PM
Yea,

I am the gun-guy at work when it comes to the law and firearms. Although I have a personal policy that I dont bring up the subject, unless someone else initiates the conversation or asks for my opinion. I am never afraid of offering it when asked....and I will state it as such:D . If someone is asking me something that I dont know for sure (legal or technical), I just tell them I am not sure but, this is what I know and I try to follow up and get back in touch with them

I have a few gun pictures, and a few nice screen savers, but that is about it......


Religion and politics........I have to be very careful I dont crap where I work....I like it here:D

mbs357
April 28, 2006, 04:13 PM
"Those numbers reflect shootings by drug dealers who 'knew' their victims."
Have you ever used that against someone and got a:
"Oh, so criminals aren't people [and therfore don't matter]?"
My jaw nearly dropped.

crazed_ss
April 28, 2006, 04:31 PM
The following conversation ensued afterward:
Passenger: "Chill out! Just let that guy be! you never know what he'll do! He might have a gun and shoot us!"
Driver: "Yeah, but we've got [Nitrogen] with us, i'm sure he's got a gun stashed away somewhere!"

Exactly the problem I have... see my post.
Comments like that are meant to be jokes, but there arent funny.

Doc Lukens
April 28, 2006, 04:50 PM
I teach in a public high school and LOVE talking guns whenever I get the chance. Screw 'em.

Agreed. I teach at a small college where I am the only one in my field (HIS/POS), and share a division with a police academy, psychology, anthro, soc and education. The police academy guy is very pro-rkba. The soc guy is a retired AF Major. They ed/psych ladies are all liberals. I thought the anthro lady was, too, until she took the college's CCW class (yea, we actually teach that here, for college credit!) When she and us men in the division talk guns, the ed/psych ladies all roll their eyes, but don't say anything. All of the Deans are gunnies. I wonder how many potentially good teaching/research positions I passed up because I wouldn't even consider jobs in places like CA, MA, NY, etc.....

M67
April 28, 2006, 05:04 PM
Get a job in the media.

I work for a major, mainstream newspaper.

Recently a young lady, a reporter who had just started working here, came by to ask one of my colleagues something. She looked at me and said: "Do you teach pistol shooting? Remember me, I was in one of your classes a couple of years ago."

This week one of my colleagues offered to work my shift so I could go shooting. We trade shifts all the time, but this time she made the offer, I didn't ask - and she knows which days I usually have shooting practice.

A lot of the people I work with know I shoot. A few times reporters have actually called me at home to ask firearms related questions (I'm not a reporter myself).

Anyway, I have a number of colleagues who are shooters and hunters. Maybe Europeans are just less uptight about this type of thing. :p

BTW, we have this in the basement:
http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=3709&d=1054313604

vynx
April 28, 2006, 06:42 PM
Darn, I wish we had basements in LA!

I work at a Hospital and they tend to be very liberal, PC places - lots of sheeple.

One year at an off-site restraunt where we were having a Christmas Party lunch (now it would be a Holiday Season lunch so you can tell how long ago that was) a co-worker who had my name in the gift exchange gave me a box of speer .45 acp. It was one of those gift exchanges where everyone takes a turn opening their package - it got totally quiet, then a girl in the office says "my boyfriend got killed by one of those" MAN, the few of us who were into guns were thinking Oh-Oh. WHat the !?!?! Her boyfriend had been killed a few months earlier in a drive-by (he was most likely a banger) and she thought it was a .45. Anyway, I tucked it out of sight and a lot of people started talking at once. Everyone (well most of us) decided it was time for a drink and life went on.

I now where a glock badge holder (shoelace thing with a clip) at work. My boss and a couple mgr's gave me some attitude about it. I told them it was Glock Plastics and sure they make guns too. They wanted me to take it off but I refused unless it was made a hospital policy and said if I can't wear something with a gun products name - nobody better be allowed to show brand loyalty or email prayers or political msg's, etc. They pretty much leave me alone now but every once in awhile someone will talk to me in the hallway and ask - is that glock! like in glock guns?

Funny thing is after Katrina/New Orleans a few people did come up and ask me if I thought they should get a shotgun in case anything like that ever happens here (LA earthquake, riot, Lakers Championship). Amazing how the evilness of owning a gun goes away in the darkness of a lonely night!

Mannlicher
April 28, 2006, 07:12 PM
Work consists of just my Son and I. Since we share the contents of the various gun safes, and we hunt together, yeah, we talk guns a lot at work. :)

rab357
April 28, 2006, 07:45 PM
To me, talking about guns at work is like talking about sex, religion, race and politics at work. You are just asking for trouble where you don't need it. I once worked at a Company where the maintenance guy was ex-military and used to talk about his guns, non-threatenly. Well one day he was terminated for attendance and the HR Manager actually contacted the police about him prior to giving him his 2 paychecks to ask the police about handling the termination based on his guns conversations. The police actually went to his home after his termination to let him know the Company contacted them about his previous conversations about guns and that it made the HR Manager nervous.

cracked butt
April 28, 2006, 11:02 PM
Exactly the problem I have... see my post.
Comments like that are meant to be jokes, but there arent funny.

I hear you, I had the same problem at my last job. At least Iwasn't the poor kid who let his coworkers know that he owned 4 AKs- He took a little of the 'crazy gun nut' image away from me.:p

mike_o8
April 29, 2006, 01:16 AM
I have two jobs. The first is a firefighter/paramedic. At that job, there are quite a few people who are into guns of one type or another. It's a pretty open place (it has to be when you live with someone 1 out of 3 days). Talk is fine. Going out after work is great. Bringing guns to work is really, really bad. Fair enough.

My other job is as a ski patroller. It is company policy to not allow employees to bring weapons to work. Again, fair enough. It's private land and it's the company's choice. I did have one enjoyable experince there:

I was sitting in our patrol shack talking to a friend about guns. I mentioned that I had just bought a second gun. A female patroller from Australia piped up and said, "I can't believe you bought another gun! Do you really want your son to grow up (he's 10 months now) knowing that his dad owns guns?"

Keep in mind that in owning a gun in Australia is like owning a fully automatic weapon in...say...California. :D

To which I answered, "Are you kidding me? He already has one of his own."

After a little more conversation about the two guns (one is a SIG p239, the other is a Beretta 92FS), we started discussing the SIG. She asked why I needed it.

I responded, "Make no mistake. The sole pupose of that weapon is to put holes in anyone who threatens my wife, my son or me."

She was a little shocked at that.

Shortening this story a little bit...

We continued to talk for a while and about a week later, I took her and her husband to the range. After serious talks about safety, they both shot handguns for the first time in their life - AND LOVED IT!

I'd say that was a success for talking about guns at work.

Mike

Rock45
April 29, 2006, 07:48 AM
Lots of good stuff here!

I work in a VA Hospital, and our office is a hangout/gathering point for a very eclectic group. There is a large double-wide workbench in the middle of the shop, golf magazines and catalogs on one side and gun mags and such on the other. It is not uncommon to see a dozen or so copies of Shotgun News and various gun magazines at any given time.

This allows conversations to take place the same as a pile of Hot Rod magazines or anything else would, so it's a good thing.

neil minor
April 29, 2006, 09:37 PM
I wish I knew someone where I work at who enjoys guns. The company displays a "No Weapons on Company Property" sign. And most folks there are so uptight and unfriendly. I had a gun magazine on my desk the other day (I brought it to work with me one morning in the hopes of having a couple of minutes to read an article which interested me). I received some strange looks from people who came to see me that day - one of those, "Oh My Gosh_I wonder if he is the going postal type kind of guy."

I also have a Bible on my desk. No, I don't leave it there in an attempt to try to show people I am "better than thou." I leave it there to look at it numerous times during the day. Just seeing it gives me inspiration to get through the day. I feel it helps reduce my stress.

Perhaps I got off track a bit, but not by much. Anyway,

I wish my company was more gun friendly. I would think it could be safer there. But the company seems more interested in keeping things "pc". It's a shame.

Where I live (in a nice subdivision) a couple of the neighbors are gun enthusiasts. The rest of the neighbors are snobs. Story: I got several weird looks the other Saturday afternoon. My six year old daughter and I were planting flowers in the front yard. I guess I did look a little strange, holding my daughters hand with one hand and holding a box of petunias with the other hand. And a Glock in a holster on my belt. But hey, those petunias can get a little wild sometimes….I wish I knew someone where I work at who enjoys guns. The company displays a "No Weapons on Company Property" sign. And most folks there are so uptight and unfriendly. I had a gun magazine on my desk the other day (I brought it to work with me one morning in the hopes of having a couple of minutes to read an article which interested me). I received some strange looks from people who came to see me that day - one of those, "Oh My Gosh_I wonder if he is the going postal type kind of guy."

I also have a Bible on my desk. No, I don't leave it there in an attempt to try to show people I am "better than thou." I leave it there to look at it numerous times during the day. Just seeing it gives me inspiration to get through the day. I feel it helps reduce my stress.

Perhaps I got off track a bit, but not by much. Anyway,

I wish my company was more gun friendly. I would think it could be safer there. But the company seems more interested in keeping things "pc". It's a shame.

Where I live (in a nice subdivision) a couple of the neighbors are gun enthusiasts. The rest of the neighbors are snobs. Story: I got several weird looks from the yuppie jogging neighbors the other Saturday afternoon. My six year old daughter and I were planting flowers in the front yard. I guess I did look a little strange, holding my daughters hand with one hand and holding a box of petunias with the other hand. And a Glock in a holster on my belt. But hey, those petunias can get a little wild sometimes….

nm

StuckInMA
April 30, 2006, 09:41 AM
2. Don't *ever* acknowledge carrying concealed, even if directly asked. I have been asked and while a few people know I carry, I always just suggest that to ask bluntly whether someone is carrying concealed or not is poor etiquette. I think that reinforces the notion that concealed means just that.

Couldn't agree more with this statement.

I'm curious as to whether I'm alone on this next rule of thumb though.

3. If the topic of guns/concealed carry does somehow end up being talked about, never show or offer up the exact model of the weapon(s) you carry unless you're at the range. Otherwise you run the risk of someone (anti/freaked out co-worker) being able to tell HR or the Police that you just pulled a "insert brand/model/finish" on them out of spite without ever actually seeing your gun.

M2 Carbine
April 30, 2006, 10:10 AM
TheArchDuke
"Gun and work situations don't always turn out bad. Unless you actually BRING your gun. I can imagine how that might cause a stir."
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I'm retired now but guns used to be a much discussed topic at work.
Even years before TX had legal carry many people carried a pistol in the car (loaded long guns were legal).

One day there were 7 or 8 pilots and a couple mechanics sitting around talking about guns and the question was asked how many carry handguns and have their guns with them (in their car). All but two :D .

It wasn't unusual to be sitting around on a slow weekend cleaning your gun in the office.

My mechanic friend had some reloading equipment set up in the hanger and I had a spare Dillon press set up in the company apartment.:)

bumm
April 30, 2006, 03:12 PM
I can understand those who never talk guns at work if their workplace is so PC that they might lose their jobs. We all have to eat and support our families.
However, unless there are severe, official penalties, I can't understand keeping quiet about a perfectly reasonable, legal, hobby, just because others are phobic, misinformed, or otherwise unreasonable. The anti's never hesitate to hurt YOUR feelings. Why be so delicate about theirs? Of course we have to be considerate and polite, but we are IN THE RIGHT. If we want to preserve our 2nd amendment rights, the best thing we can do is responsibly promote our position. We are normal, productive members of our society. Let the public know we exist!
Marty

30-06 lover
April 30, 2006, 03:32 PM
My workplace used to be a PD, but now I am a full time student. I mentioned guns at the PD once, only to be bombarded with questions from a lot of cops, and a few guys asked me to go with, or take them hunting. At school, it is another story. My teachers have done some things that have turned my stomach. I have been able to get some really good points across and change some peoples minds, but not many. My favorite thing teachers do to me when talking about guns is to say "Why not keep an open mind about this? Can you please consider what I am saying?" I think to myself "I would if you hadn't cut me of jerk off!" The funny thing about people telling you keep an open mind, is that theirs is usually closed.:banghead: I am very open about my love for guns and hunting, but I don't usually bring it up on my own. I never lie about it though. If someone asks me what I do for fun I usually say shoot and hunt. If they tell me it is sick to kill, or wrong to own guns, I just say they are entitled to their opinion. If they keep nagging I usually say "Lets just be happy we live in a place that we have different opinions and still be friends." They don't know where to go after that and usually drop it. Am I the "Gun Nut" in class? Yes, but I don't care. I would rather be hated for what I am than loved for something I am not.
-Mike

jeepmor
April 30, 2006, 03:44 PM
And likeminded folks talk guns all the time, where ever they want. I mean right in the cubicle hallways and all. Some liberal folks (portland, Oregon) frown on it, but we don't stop them talking about their wild gay lovefest weekends or the like, so they don't complain about a few dead groundhogs, or deer, or elk, etc.

But it also depends, one person that chooses to be an HR PITA, can pretty much put that kind of stuff to a halt. But generally, they are told simply "go back to work."

But ironically, in Portlands liberal climate, they issue CCW permits like candy, so there's a balance in my opinion. The fact that I can discuss this openly at my place of employment has recently made me a batch of new friends that I hope to share many a happy hunting ground(s) with.

jeepmor

FPrice
April 30, 2006, 03:53 PM
Before I retired I worked on the largest Air Force Reserve base in the country. Many of the people I dealt with were either neutral or anti-gun. But there were also quite a few active shooters on base. The head of my club's hi-power team worked across the street. The head of civilian personnel was a gun enthusiast. I bought my first EBR from the (now long-retired) gym director. I could go many places and talk guns whenever I wanted to. But being that it was Federal property, my guns never came on base except for some very rare times they opened the pistol range to civilian participation.

Offwhite
April 30, 2006, 03:56 PM
The husband of one of the girls I work with has been deployed & we talk all the time about guns, firearms, Glocks, blowin' stuff up and nobody seems too bothered by it. Plus I dont really care what other people have to say or think about me. I know who I am. But she goes with me & my fiancee to the gun range pretty often.

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