Model call


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Oleg Volk
April 28, 2006, 04:34 PM
A lot of my old posters lack the resolution for printing. As I update my posters with new, higher-resolution versions, I find that a lot the new photos lack the impact of the old images.

Here's an example:

New
http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/14966-2/twoways2162.jpg

Old
http://www.a-human-right.com/twoways_s.jpg

The problem is that my favorite models (who are gun-savvy and capable of convincing acting) are not local. I seldom get photo shoots with them. My local friends either lack the acting talent or the familiarity with weapons necessary for convincing posing.

Male model with those qualifications are easier to find: I have three friends whom I cast regularly. However, it is hard to find female models with matching expertise. I amcurrently considering teaching a friend who has acting talent the finer points of gun use, but it would take months to bear results...and I don't have the time or the energy to do that.

Suggestions and leads are welcome. Less concerned about age (the men are 19-55yo), more about acting ability, familiarity with guns and other weapons, and a somewhat photogenic appearance.

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real_name
April 28, 2006, 04:40 PM
Is this a free or paid labor enterprise?
I know a few women who might be interested.

Oleg Volk
April 28, 2006, 04:45 PM
Pay depends on the uses.

Posters for promotion of RKBA aren't paid (although I could set up a "tip the model on this poster" fund.) I have no budget for that and have to devote time away from my own paid work. I would prefer to pay to cover such expenses as travel and time, but simply cannot do that. I pretty much depend on the interest in promoting RKBA, on the satisfaction of gaining some fame and good images of self.

However, some of the images eventually see commercial uses. Sometimes the shoots are done for specific companies, in which case the models get paid right away. More often, images get bought for editorial or advertising use later, in which case the models would get a % of the licensing fees.

real_name
April 28, 2006, 04:55 PM
That's much as I imagined but I just wanted confirmation before I started speculating further.
I will put the word out amongst my wife's friends.

PS. If you ever need a terrorist looking type then I am your man. For some strange reason photographic documentation of my Mediterranean appearance has morphed post 9/11 into some crass islamic militant caricature.
My TN DL photo is strikingly similar to that of Mohammed Atta. It scares even me.

Oleg Volk
April 28, 2006, 05:05 PM
real_name,

We ought to meet in any case.

real_name
April 28, 2006, 05:10 PM
Agreed, I need to thank you for informing me of the Guns and Leather store.

I shoot at the Hobson Pike Range. We could meet up sometime, there or elsewhere.

MountainPeak
April 28, 2006, 06:16 PM
Let me know when you expand to the bulging spandex sort of guy. I've got bulges, in all the wrong places. I guarantee I can make the antis up and take notice!!! :D Did I tell you, I ALMOST blend in, on my deck, in my camo speedos! :)

BigG
April 28, 2006, 06:49 PM
I guess my computer doesn't show the differences much. The ones you label old actually look a little sharper in focus than the new ones.

I can see the new model doesn't appear to have much acting ability, but the images aren't as clear on my monitor, either.

Also, as constructive criticism: I think you carry finger off the trigger to ridiculous lengths. If she is slinging lead, her finger needs to be on to go button.

Also, the point of view of both before and after photos should be same for maximum impact, eyelines should be the same, etc. Runt is looking at the camera in the first picture and apparently somewhere up at some heavenly manifestation in the second. Not convincing in terms of a reaction to a threat, which would be the camera, imho, even though it is a good shot. JMTC, and not meant to offend, bud! In other words, it would be more effective if the model more or less morphed into the second pose, rather than looking like two isolated shots, if you get my drift.

Thanks for the opportunity to comment, Oleg! :)

armoredman
April 28, 2006, 07:09 PM
My wife is the typical American housewife, or did you just want the drop dead gorgeous types?

Preacherman
April 28, 2006, 07:28 PM
Model call? I've never been called a model - never even had folks wolf-whistle at me . . . :D

Still, if you want to make use of my ugly goateed mug, I'll be up your way from time to time.

armoredman
April 28, 2006, 07:32 PM
Please forgive this clumsy attempt with your fine work, but is this maybe a little more of the impact you were looking for? BTW, all copyrighted material has been eliminated from my machine.

real_name
April 28, 2006, 08:39 PM
Yes, my wife is interested. She has just looked at your work and totally approves.
She's more than slightly photogenic, even if I say so myself.
I will PM my email address in addition to this message.

Oleg Volk
April 28, 2006, 10:12 PM
armoredman,

I really like your layout: may I use it?

My wife is the typical American housewife, or did you just want the drop dead gorgeous types?

Look at my site. Drop-dead gorgeous types are a distinct minority among my models. I am trying to have as many different looks, ages, ethnicities and attitudes represented. However, since I will be updating existing posters in addition to making new work, I need people with good acting ability.

http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/14861-2/secure1790.jpg
Some of my friends can act (and Blake has starred in numerous posters), but Shawna is unused to weapons and so would likely take a long time getting up to speed.

BigG
April 28, 2006, 10:49 PM
Armored man has got a good eye for layout. You and he should cooperate, perhaps.

armoredman
April 28, 2006, 11:20 PM
Oleg, you may use any ideas I have. I just fool around with a little digital camera.
I told my wife about putting her picture up, and she was thought that was interesting. I still need to get her to do some pictures with her AK.

BTW. that's a nice pic with a nice car - very 40's, even the "pistole"! Isn't that the gent who wore the German uniform is several pics?

I am not nearly as photogenic...

Oleg Volk
April 28, 2006, 11:30 PM
armoredman,

That's so similar to my idea for the image of an out of focus person in a bubble bath, with in focus clothes and holster in the foreground. "Always keep the essentials near" :D

armoredman
April 28, 2006, 11:56 PM
Too bad you're half a country away - we could have some fun.:cool:

real_name
April 28, 2006, 11:58 PM
armoredman
Careful, there's a panther behind you!!

CNYCacher
April 29, 2006, 12:05 AM
Where is local to you? Love your site, by the way.

armoredman
April 29, 2006, 12:08 AM
real name, that's my Star kitten....:cool: This is her and her sister Smokey.

Hyunchback
April 29, 2006, 12:14 AM
real_name wrote:

My TN DL photo is strikingly similar to that of Mohammed Atta. It scares even me.

In another state, years back, I had a DL photo taken. Something went wrong with the Polaroid film they were using (before cheap digital images). My face came through by my head and body were surrounded by a red 'aura' including two horn-like projections from the top of my head!

Maybe I should have insisted they use that photo, but at the time I hadn't seen Nicholson in The Witches of Eastwick - "Just your average, horn- little devil!"

bogie
April 29, 2006, 01:12 AM
Oleg... Look at the "shield" poster...

Different angles = different message. You could recreate it, but it'd take a little time. Get tight again. You're thinking inside a box. Open it.

Oleg Volk
April 29, 2006, 11:51 AM
Where is local to you?

Close enough that regular shoot were possible...guessing 50-60 miles from Nashville at most. I have friends come from as far away as California and Massachussetts, but they can't do it often.

James T Thomas
April 29, 2006, 01:04 PM
Dear Oleg:

Perhaps you could search for the female models amoung police, those with military experience, or even the martial arts trained.

May I also suggest the nurse profession. These women are courageous in what they do, and since so many work evening hours and encounter all types of people in their profession, many have taken to arming themselves and becoming familiar with firearms so that they may go about their life saveing activities with a more confident outlook.

Your other post on image resolution deals with the phenomena of "impressionism" that fine art contains.

Sincerely,
Jim

Ragnarok
April 29, 2006, 01:06 PM
Why a nurse? why not a army?

Oleg Volk
April 29, 2006, 03:22 PM
One of my new friends is a THR-reading gun-carrying nurse who is ex-USAF. Turns out she has acting experience. I look forward to doing a proper shoot with her.

sm
April 29, 2006, 04:32 PM
She looks familar for some reason, she shoot a Model 66 by chance?

Nurses, Rad techs, Scrub Techs, Doctors...all have a "persona" that is hard to explain unless you know one, work around them ...etc.

While stereotyped many ways, photos bring out "just a real person doing a real job". They do not even have to be in respective uniforms, or scrubs...

Ladies that do sports such as golf, tennis, also possses this.

School teachers -not all but some ...for instance Larry's Daughter Susan, carries herself very well, is sharp,atriculate, has a sense of humor. She can take care of herself and can. She was raised right. :)

She would be GREAT and her husband Jeremy ...gotta have Daughter Sadie [I'm biased] as well. This family portrays a lot...they ever make it to TN, snag this family.

I "know" Susan has talent, as does her mom Sandy...just cannot say, a PM will reveal. (something they did as a mom and daughter, and not a good idea to spill the beans with the other kids in family reading about it here)

:)

Preacherman
April 29, 2006, 07:09 PM
Perhaps if some of us guys wore kilts, and stuffed tennis balls down our shirts?

(OK, we'd have to shave . . . )

;)

real_name
April 29, 2006, 07:13 PM
Tennis balls down shirts?
I'm sure there are more than a few guys with moobies amongst us that wouldn't need to.

Moobies, for the uninitiated, are man boobs.

Skunkabilly
April 29, 2006, 07:53 PM
I'm a model, you know what I mean, I do my little turn on the catwalk.

Yeah on the catwalk.

Oleg, if I make it to the Smokies, I'll drop by.

Oleg Volk
April 29, 2006, 07:54 PM
Preacherman seems to do fine without the cleavage (note that he's a heck of a lot more starved now that in this picture).

http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/4832-2/p90peter.jpg

sm
April 29, 2006, 08:13 PM
Certainly explains why when Preacherman is here and when asked "you want to drive or shoot?"
He replies "shoot".

I drive, he rides shotgun to provide Absolution if need. :)

Gifted
April 30, 2006, 01:46 PM
I'll have a fursuit in a few weeks. St Louie isn't really local though.

Janos Dracwlya
April 30, 2006, 02:31 PM
Oleg:

My wife and I live in Bowling Green, about an hour north of Nashville. We are both familiar with guns, though she is the better actor by far. I'll see if I can did up some pictures - the only ones I can recall that feature guns are with me in cowboy action shooting gear.

Janos

Oleg Volk
April 30, 2006, 03:04 PM
Sounds great! My friend Mr.50 (pic below) is also a cowboy reenactor, so we can have us a posse.

http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/d/6576-2/barrett8289.jpg

TheShadow
May 1, 2006, 10:45 AM
Oleg,

We're not close to your neck of the woods, but maybe you can do something with this one. I think that Ted Kennedy and his like should be very afraid of this picture.

Old Fud
May 1, 2006, 10:55 AM
Very nice.
Oleg, I think you could do some nice work with this young lady -- her face grabs you, and you are very good with faces.

Mr. Shadow, next time you take that photo, please remove the lens covers.

Fud

Oleg Volk
May 1, 2006, 10:55 AM
Cute to a frightening degree: she seems very competent with that rifle.

USSR
May 1, 2006, 11:02 AM
Oleg,

Nice MGA. What year is it?

Don

TheShadow
May 1, 2006, 11:25 AM
the lens cover on the scope is the see through "scratch guard" type, the front is tinted greenish, and she likes to use it, so far I've not been able to remove it. :) I thought I should have put the mag in after I took the photo, but ohh well.

Before she even touched the .22 she is carrying, she had to prove herself worthy, with her pellet rifle. She had to demonstrate, and not just repeat, the four rules. We've got a ways to go with her proficiency, and technicals, but when it comes to safety, she can teach some of the adults a thing or two.

Don't get her wrong, at 11 she loves going to the range, fishing, and looking forward to her first camping trip, but she is all girl, and loves shopping for cloths, can't ask for better than that in my mind. :)

merk
May 1, 2006, 11:35 AM
I would gladly do it. Im 6'10'', so im sure it can be used for some kind of "large male vs. small armed female" kind of picture. If youre ever in Chattanooga or if we can work something out ill do it in a second.

Stickjockey
May 1, 2006, 12:46 PM
Not local, but if you're ever in the Portland, OR area look us up, even if only for a base of operations.

Oleg Volk
May 1, 2006, 01:05 PM
Chattanooga isn't too far from Nashville...and, Stickjockey, thanks for the invitation.

sm
May 1, 2006, 10:31 PM
TheShadow,

Quite a young lady indeed! Oleg has to photograph her.

armoredman
May 1, 2006, 10:35 PM
My most photogenic angle...with apologies to Breaker Moran...

XavierBreath
May 12, 2006, 08:09 AM
Oleg,
There's another young lady standing by in North Louisiana as well.

http://www.bayourovers.com/mimsstarb.jpg

Sinsaba
May 12, 2006, 08:59 AM
Have you thought of any of the local amature theater groups? Granted you get a large number of liberals (don't flame me I realize not ALL liberals are anti-gun I'm talking percentages from my experience here) in the theater but when I lived in Memphis we had all types at Theater Memphis (formally Memphis Little Theater)

Oleg Volk
May 12, 2006, 11:04 AM
One of my new friends acts at a theater in spare time. She's not a gunnie though.

Xavier, I just realized I forgot to send you the promised Marlin sight. Will dig up your address and do so asap.

RnR
May 12, 2006, 07:01 PM
It seems to me that the unconscious muscle tension that often gets expressed in the facial region (such as Betty on point) really helps to accentuate the image and message. I frequently notice that a lot of photos in which "things" are held in the proper alignment, posed properly, etc., lack the message of fear or perceived danger when they are not reflected in the facial muscles - and as such are quite weak in the impact department.

Thus, if you can find someone who can express alarm in their face with intensity, you'll have someone who will also know how to tense their arms and hands while caressing their device of resistance - creating a solid and lasting impression.

And ya know... these days with people being a bit "rounder" in the cheeks - you might have to start hanging out with the Vegetarians in order to find someone with a sculpted facial profile that can really "express" more emotional intent than someone who's a bit more cherub like...

BTW - That Betty poster is really top notch in this regard, kudos both to her and you Oleg for producing that gem!!

gezzer
May 12, 2006, 07:11 PM
Oleg, I see the difference in the 1st pic of old to new as two distinct profiles in the old the first pic is showing a not only un armed but panicked fright. The new pic shows an unarmed but determined, confident young woman.

The second photo seems a matter of perspective with the old a close up of the face and eyes showing confidence and defiance where the second photo is not as close loosing this perspective.

No matter what your photos are great!!

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