[Nightfall]

http://www.handgunfree.org/HFAMain/

Holly crap... my head about exploded from reading this site. On the plus side, at least they're upfront and blunt about their objectives. On the down side... they exist. :mad:

[Kharn]

Sometimes reading the propaganda can be interesting. Anyone have any details about what happened here: http://www.handgunfree.org/HFAMain/newsletter/newsdetail.asp?ref=131

Kharn

[Airwolf]

Sure! I'd *love* a free handgun. Where do I sign up? :D

[Black Dragon]

:barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf:

That about covers it.

[mercedesrules]

Franklin Delano Roosevelt called freedom from fear one of the four essential human freedoms.
They base their whole philosophy on this stupid, but unfortunately widely-repeated, statement. (He also mentioned a non-existant "freedom from want"):rolleyes:

MR

[Ol' Badger]

What makes me soooo :mad: is that my company blocks anything with weapons. But poop like this is ok to view! :banghead:

[Partisan Ranger]

They neglect to mention that after he died, Mrs. Roosevelt packed heat herself on occasions.

[Elmer Snerd]

I agree with them. Let's get rid of all of the handguns. I'm sure that it won't occur to the criminals to resort to using other concealed weapons such as compact SMG's or sawed-off shotguns/rifles if all handguns magically vanished one day.

[Carlos Cabeza]

F.D.R. called freedom from fear one of the four essential human freedoms.

Who's Afraid ?????? Fear is a deep seated phsycological problem for some people. :rolleyes:

[Dorrin79]

tangential...

but it's also worth noting that fear is a valid, and useful, psychological reponse to certain stimuli, as long as you are in control of it, and not the other way around.

Is it just me, or is the verbage on this website more than slightly reminescent of Communist propaganda (different topid, but same phrasing and general breathless tone) from the bad old days?

Probably not a coincidence...

:rolleyes:

[longeyes]

Something tells me that if and when this ever comes to pass there will be a major upturn in the sales of dusters.:D

[Rawlings]

It seems to me that the people on this forum are not AFRAID, but are rather PREPARED.

These folks want to "reduce fear" by removing an object from society, when history shows that their fear will then only be displaced onto something else. Meanwhile, the people who recognize the utility and respect the power of that object have already destroyed that fear in themselves and in all likelihood, in a number of people around them.

What conclusions can be drawn?

-Living in ignorance breeds fear.

-Relying on the agenda of radical groups for information breeds fear.

-Possession and proper implementation of these "fear-producing" objects, eliminates fear.

[MeekandMild]

I wonder if HFA would give me a grant to "study the problem". I figure about $500,000 would about cover it. :D

[Nightfall]

http://www.handgunfree.org/HFAMain/topics/secondamendment/ashcroft_letter.htm

So what exactly is the point of posting this little tid bit? Seems to me that a nicely written letter from the AG with evidence supporting an individual right to keep and bear arms works against their cause.

http://www.handgunfree.org/HFAMain/topics/youth/

And for sheer blood boiling reading, take a gander at this. They're outraged that there are guns designed for young shooters, and blame the gun industry for kids that are shot because apparently the gun industry is targeting our youth. :rolleyes: Sounds like a marketing strategy to me! Try to sell an item well out of a child's price range, a product that also requires ammo that they can't buy, and an item completely illegal for them to buy in the first place. Yeaaaah... I bet Sig Sauer, Glock, Heckler & Koch, Colt, and the gang all spend millions of research dollars making guns for kiddies to pick up at their local gun shop. :rolleyes:

http://www.handgunfree.org/HFAMain/topics/industry/

How about this one... the gun industry is the most unregulated industry in the country. LMAO, right. Sure thing. How many gun laws are there? 20,000 or so? Unregulated? Mmmkay. When there is a government agency called Alcohol, Tobacco, and Teddy Bears I'll consider your argument about teddy bears having more restrictions than guns.

"Our objective is to focus American citizens' attention on the necessity for a complete ban on private handgun ownership."

Which will work well. Making something illegal completely removes it's use in crime, or use at all. See drugs as an example. With cocaine and marijuana illegal, nobody uses them! Drugs have hardly ever been used since they're illegal, no drugs ever make their way into the country, and I most certainly can't walk to a seedy street corner and pick up whatever drug I feel like. Nope.

You would think when 1+1=6 by their logic, they'd take a step back into the land of common sense.

[Waitone]

When confronted with abject stupidity, the best course of action is to help said idiots advertise and promote their stupidity.

[jsalcedo]

I was told by a couple of sources that the person who runs the handgun free website has it up as a decoy.

The people read it get really pissed and give money to the pro gun folks.

The anti-gun folks join and send money and handgun free sends it to pro-gun causes.

I sent a nasty Email to the handgun free folks and all they replied with was a big ;)

Can anyone else cooberate this?

[MeekandMild]

These articles from the site are surprising in that they communicate some factual information:

Bottom line: Black teens from single parent families who are in trouble otherwise tend to get shot more often. (http://ip.bmjjournals.com/cgi/reprint/8/2/147.pdf)

Bottom line: There are many fewr but more serious firearm related injuries than other injuries. Firearms cause about 1/4 of traumatic deaths in the US (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/SS/SS5002.pdf)

Another link produced a Highlights popup. (http://www.highlights.com/) Highlights is a glossy oh-so-liberal magazine targeting children and their parents. It has been involved in deconstructing traditional Amerrican childhood education for half a century.

They have links to Mennonite and Quaker organizations.

My analysis is they are not hoplophobes but are the sort who seek to "elevate" us common folk and if they can't make us see the error of our ways maybe they can convince us to stop breeding and if that doesn't work maybe they will lure us somewhere we can't hurt the rest of the Eloi.

(Fixed busted link -- LawDog)