Has this picture appeared in Shotgun News?


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Oleg Volk
May 1, 2006, 04:02 PM
http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/5731-2/M14wallpaper1600.jpg

A friend told me he saw it in a Shotgun News cover ad a few weeks ago...I am curious as to the context. It could have been something I approved...but I have my doubts.

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Mikee Loxxer
May 1, 2006, 04:43 PM
I haven't seen it in SGN. I read it pretty religiously. I'll double check but I don't think it was in there.

Joe7cri
May 1, 2006, 04:49 PM
My wife thinks those are manicured nails? Must be a model!

BozemanMT
May 1, 2006, 04:50 PM
I haven't seen it
and I pretty thouroughly go through the shopping list. err Shotgun News

Kevlarman
May 1, 2006, 07:46 PM
Tamara?

daver
May 1, 2006, 07:52 PM
I remember seeing that picture recently in Shotgun News, or Gun List. It was associated with an article concerning firearms ownership in other countries, if I recall correctly.

redloki
May 1, 2006, 08:32 PM
WooHoo... I smell a copywrite infringment, if indeed it was there, Oleg. I have a photographer friend going through a lawsuit himself bucause seven of his images were used in the 2006 Hawaiian Tropic calender without his permission.

rayra
May 1, 2006, 08:40 PM
It's on the cover of the April 7 GunList.
Have it right here in front of me. And it was Larry Grupp's article, "Over there: Private Ownership of Guns in Foreign Countries"
And the photo is credited to Oleg in the Table of Contents on page 4.

Oleg Volk
May 1, 2006, 08:56 PM
Does anyone have a PDF or a scan of that page?

rayra
May 2, 2006, 01:07 AM
I presume they didn't get permission first? (busted)

I just emailed a digital pic of the cover to you. My scanner driver is having fits, will try to do something about it and email it to you within a couple days.

Oleg Volk
May 2, 2006, 01:17 AM
Rayra, thank you. That's my picture, indeed. I do not recall giving permission or even being asked about the use. A little rude, I think.

rayra
May 2, 2006, 01:25 AM
I agree. The photo-credit 'band-aid' in the table of contents doesn't quite cover it, either.
Worth at least a 'harrumph' email to'em.

I'll scan that table of contents page as well, when I get the thing working. I'll be pretty busy the next couple days digitally processing a couple hundred photos from the illegal immigration / amnesty march in Los Angeles today (fresh topic on the THR politics an dlegal forum)

mr_dove
May 2, 2006, 03:31 AM
Damn Oleg, you could probably make a fair living off of copyright infringement settlements alone. Just keep taking pictures that people want to "use" and you're set.

Richard.Howe
May 2, 2006, 07:02 AM
Update!

mbs357
May 2, 2006, 07:10 AM
It is a nice picture...

Kharn
May 2, 2006, 08:11 AM
Do I smell a free lifetime subscription?

Kharn

High Planes Drifter
May 2, 2006, 08:19 AM
You have fine taste in rifles Oleg:D

Thin Black Line
May 2, 2006, 08:27 AM
Damn Oleg, you could probably make a fair living off of copyright infringement settlements alone.

Sadly no, my father was involved in one with his business and hired top
copyright lawyers out of Chicago to take his case. Let's just say the
lawyers cost more than the case ended up being worth to the judge.

You'd be better off having a cup of hot coffee fall off onto you from a stack
of Gunlist magazines.....

bogie
May 2, 2006, 08:39 AM
Problem is that Oleg has announced that his images can be used to further RKBA interests. Gun List could argue that that was what they were doing.

Oleg, I know you're gonna disagree with me, but I think that this forum needs some corporate sponsorship. Starting with Gun List...

ScottsGT
May 2, 2006, 08:43 AM
Not to hijack this thread, but here at work a BIG copyright problem just came up. USC football would send out game videos to anyone that requested it, at no charge, to the fans. Well, someone decided to burn copys and E-bay them. Now the USC legal dept is after them, and to make matters worse, they have wholesale stopped giving out game DVD's. One rectum in the crowd, and thousands have to suffer.

Oleg Volk
May 2, 2006, 11:01 AM
I am not in a punitive mood, but I would have been happier if they asked first and offered the customary licensing fee for the front-page use. Their use is, after all, more commercial than not.

Working Man
May 2, 2006, 11:13 AM
Ask them for a free advertising spot in their magazine for your site selling
your shirts, posters, and stuff.

It's the least they should do.

mec
May 2, 2006, 11:15 AM
"You have fine taste in rifles Oleg"
Yes he does and Gunlists has fine tastes in photography. A few years ago, I posted an article- A review of one of Richard Poe's books. A month or so later, it showed up in the TSRA Sportsman. Richard Poe even used it to advertise his book. I was happy with both. On the occasions when somebody would e-mail me asking permission to do something similar with one of my articles, I've always told them to go ahead. So far as I know, none of the people who asked ever actually used the material.

Oleg Volk
May 2, 2006, 11:19 AM
The picture shows twoblink's rifle with my crusty magazine and runt's capable hands.

I just talked with the Gun List editor Bryan Lovett. As expected, no ill intent was present. I may be able to be of help to them in the future with other images.

aguyindallas
May 2, 2006, 11:20 AM
I dont know that I would lawyer up, just for the simple reason that it is in the promotion of RKBA and you have made it clear that it is ok for that purpose.

I would however contact the editor just to let them know you are paying attention and just simply ask why they thought it would be ok to use an image without permission.

I would be curious to hear the response.

Oleg Volk
May 2, 2006, 11:21 AM
I am not assuming ill intent at this time. Who knows what kind of good things might come out of this in the long run.

Biker
May 2, 2006, 11:25 AM
True, Oleg. I had a jingle ripped off one time that led to an offer for me to write and record another jingle for a national company.
Good luck.
Biker

Sindawe
May 2, 2006, 11:32 AM
I had a jingle ripped off one time that led to an offer for me to write and record another jingle for a national company. So the truth finally comes out eh Biker? Underneath that grizzled beard and leather you're just a sensative song writer! :neener:

I'd attribute sloppiness over ill intent Oleg, but I think you should be assertive with 'em about unlicensed use of your work for commercial gain.

Biker
May 2, 2006, 11:36 AM
That's me, Sindawe. I wrote and played a love song for my wife last weekend - it brought tears to her eyes. It's called: "I Love Bi-Wenches".
Just a romantic at heart, I guess.
Biker:cool:

NineseveN
May 2, 2006, 11:45 AM
Oleg, at least contact them and let them know about it. Like you said, their aim is more commercial than not and they should know better.

Daniel T
May 2, 2006, 12:41 PM
He did. Read the second-to-last post on the first page.

NineseveN
May 2, 2006, 01:09 PM
Wonder how I missed that. :o

bogie
May 2, 2006, 09:34 PM
Hey, Oleg... If you talk to 'em again, could I get you to float a resume? My department just got outsourced...

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