Houston Safer than Baghdad?


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The_Shootist
May 5, 2006, 12:02 AM
Yeah...I'm not serious, BUT murders are going through the roof here. 124 in the 1st 4 mos of this year alone, compared to last year 320 murders (year before it was 230).

I'm pretty much armed all the time (I live in Galveston and bodies are dropping here too) as it really seems like the wild west. Its not just media hysteria - 124 is a bit much and the years not even half over.

Mind you, the combat zone seems to be mainly the SW where the local homies and MS-13 are battling for turf with an influx of bad boys from Nawlins, post-Katrina.

But still, it just ups the odds grandma out walking her dog walks into something and ends up taking a couple of 9's for the hometeam inadvertantly. Thats the biggest problem - innocent bystanders caught in the firing line. The bad guys can kill each other, its just that "street justice" has an unhappy "spill over" quality to it.

Just goes to show the cops are there just to clean up the mess - you are responsible for your own safety. Thats emphasized by how crowded every weekend it is in the pistol section of my local range - attendance is waaaaay up over last year. Last year it was no problem - now its like the grocery store on the weekend. You have to get there early or be crowded out :( >

When I picked up my AK a couple of months ago, I jested with the gun shop staff that I was getting ready for Hurricane season. Now I'm not sure if it was a joke :evil:

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Old Dog
May 5, 2006, 12:32 AM
Is there currently a problem with IEDs, car bombs and suicide bombers in Houston? 20 or 30 Houston cops getting killed in a single day?

Spent some time in Baghdad, but never been to Houston (though I've been through the airport at DFW before).

We've had about six or eight homicides in the past couple of months in Seattle and the COP and mayor are calling for a new statewide assault weapons ban and stricter gun control laws ...

Pilgrim
May 5, 2006, 01:06 AM
We've had about six or eight homicides in the past couple of months in Seattle and the COP and mayor are calling for a new statewide assault weapons ban and stricter gun control laws ...
I guess they don't see many dead bodies in Seattle.

Pilgrim

acdodd
May 5, 2006, 01:15 AM
The mayor doesn't care about the bodies.
The more dead people the more votes the democrats get.
I emailed the mayor and my state reps, The only one to reply was the republican. I also mentioned that the mayor could help keep guns away from the bad guys if his police chief could remember to not leave his gun in an unlocked car.

The_Shootist
May 5, 2006, 01:25 AM
"Is there currently a problem with IEDs, car bombs and suicide bombers in Houston? 20 or 30 Houston cops getting killed in a single day"

Well we had 24 people killed over last Thanksgiving. That qualify? :scrutiny:

arthurcw
May 5, 2006, 01:54 AM
Can't say it’s as bad a Baghdad, but it is a BUNCH WORSE that it used to be. I've been pretty disappointed with this town for a while now.

Our Public debt seems to be way out of hand with our Toy Trains and loverly new sports stadiums. Seems to me that while Katrina didn't help, it only made a few things more pronounced to the casual observer.

Maybe Katrina was a good thing. Maybe it woke people up. But then again, given that this burg has turned into a play thing for our "elected" (read pre-ordained) leaders and given the current liberal pig headedness of the city council, I can only expect that someday soon one of our Glorious Leaders will try to "solve" our crime problem with a crack down on law abiding citizens. State laws be D@med!

After all, we are already cautioned VERY HARD by some of our Firearms instructors (at least from what I've gathered from talking to some CHL holders as well as my own class experience) that even though a 30.06 sign is required for store to be in compliance with the law and those fruity "NO FIREARMS" signs are not good enough to get us arrested for criminal trespass (assuming you have a CHL here). Given the current climate in this town, you may not want to be the one flagged down by a rent-a-cop and held while a "future lieutenant" shows up and decides that a Judge should sort it all out. Yes it should be settled in your favor, but I for one don't have the time for it. God Bless the Pocket Gun.

Anyway. Someday I'll leave and shake the dust from my sandals and never look back. Well, Maybe for some of the food. Have some darn fine fer-rin' food here. I'd miss that.

boofus
May 5, 2006, 09:06 AM
Thank you chocolate city...

High Planes Drifter
May 5, 2006, 09:35 AM
Thank you chocolate city...
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While I am not chocolate, or actually from the city of New Orleans, I do live in a suburb of it. I really dont know what to say; I know you guys are struggling with what we struggled with for years: A bunch of ignorant thugs who have the least bit of respect for others, and themselves. I feel bad for folks who have had thier property damaged by these animals. But I would be lying if I said this area wasnt better for having them leave. I think we've had maybe 20 or 30 murders scince the storm, and a few of those were domestic disputes triggered by depression. I drive through New Orleans 3 or 4 times a week. Believe me, its no chocolate city nowadays. Getting more and more brown tho.:scrutiny:

Double Naught Spy
May 5, 2006, 10:08 AM
High murder rate in Houston? It is sort of like when the DC murder rate was the highest in the country and the mayor there said it wasn't a problem unless you were a drug dealer? If you removed the known drug dealer on drug dealer killings, DC as compared to other major cities had a fairly low murder rate.

Thin Black Line
May 5, 2006, 10:31 AM
Houston and every other place in America is a lot safer than Baghdad.

People cite the US Soldier KIA rate there and compare it to this or that
murder rate in a particular US area and forget to include deaths from other
Coalition countries, the IA, the IP, and oh yeah, the Iraqi civilians (last
I checked they are PEOPLE, too, but I've had people flat out tell me
they "don't count them and Chicago is more dangerous anyway." What
idiocy).

There are MORE people killed in Baghdad on a daily basis that do NOT
make the MSM. The only time civies hear about back here is when it's
a car bomb that causes a civilian mascal or when it's more than a
couple US soldiers. You just don't hear about the regular street crime,
but it all adds bodies up.

When I was in Baghdad I knew what happened and what wasn't reported
by comparison because I had access to the net.

arthurcw
May 5, 2006, 02:25 PM
I don't think anyone really thinks Houston is as bad as Baghdad. But those of us here are just REALLY FRUSTRATED with this town.

It's not just our friends from N.O.L.A. (who really have calmed down now). We've had and unofficial official declaration that this is an open city so NO ONE is ever asked about citizenship. MS-13 is actively involved in making this town a stronghold and distribution point. Our candy-A'ed politicians don't seem to care either.

We used to be a part of the State of Texas. Now that we've become and "International City" (and what the heck does that mean anyway? We've had legal immigrants from every country on earth in this town for years. None of them were ever clamoring from this to be an "international city". They were happy to be part of the US and TEXAS! ...But I digress.) Where was I, OH YEAH... Now that the Downtown Cabal has deemed us "International", we've turned into some kind of Mecca for Backward Thinking. :banghead:

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