Questions from the range


May 5, 2006, 10:07 AM
I took my Phd candidate daughter to the range yesterday and she learned that she loved my 22/45, liked my CZ75, but disliked the GP160 with .38 special, hated it with .357 magnum, and really hated the P97. Credit to her that she shot at least a magazine/cylinder full in forming her opinions.

However, the trip raised some questions for me.

1. The GP160 seemed to catch on one of the six cylinders. That is it was noticeably harder to cock/pull the DA trigger. I do not have this experience when dry firing.

2. The 10/22 occasionally failed to fire some rounds and the extractor did not extract those rounds. They seemed to fire just fine later in a single six. (Note: bull barrel too heavy for daughter's liking and the single six had to be cocked "every time.")

Possible causes?

The is the first time I've been able to shoot the GP160 and it is really fun and amazingly accurate with both .38 and .357. The plastic P97 seems cheap compared to the CZ75. I may have to get an all steel .45 ACP. This could be expensive.

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May 5, 2006, 11:10 AM
Working backward, yes it can get expensive but when she gets her PhD I'm sure she'll remember your kindness :) The single six firing rounds that a 10/22 didn't isn't a surprise. Some brands of 22 can be harder to fire than others and the SS with it's long drop and big hammer...well hard primer problem solved. Having to use more effort to cock the GP with fired cartridges in the cylinder over dry firing; again no surprise. Cases can and will "setback" slightly under firing/recoil causing drag on the frame increasing the effort needed. No worries. As for liking the CZ over the Rugers...well I guess she has a good chance of getting her PhD :evil: :neener: :)

Just kidding Ruger fans, don't stone me :rolleyes:

May 5, 2006, 06:26 PM
The extractor needs to be replaced with an extractor made for match chambers. On the Ruger Target models their own extractors would not always eject an unfired round. I hope they have changed that. You can get a replacement extractor at and they carry a few different manufacturers' brands.

May 5, 2006, 07:38 PM
I'm not addressing the gun question, just the PhD part :D 3gun, as for once she gets her PhD and taking care of anyone, it's 3-6 years of being just below poor (Post-doc or purgatory as I called it), then if she's lucky her 1st job will pay something so she can get "experience". Hopefully the second job will be the winner and pay well. I'm just now finishing my loans for a PhD I received in '96. It's all worth it if she loves what's she is studying. :D Just my life experience 10 years of school after high school is a long time, but then again you never stop learning! ;) STW, I wish her luck with her studies and keep her shooting that maybe the only thing to keep her sane during whole process. I had a professor who loved to hunt, we'd talk for hours about shooting, hunting and farming...those are the fond memories of grad school :D

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