Hodgdon Clays Appearance?


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NoahFN
May 6, 2006, 10:16 AM
I noticed this morning when I opened my first pound of Hodgdon clays that some of the flakes of powder had little holes through the center, but most did not. Is this normal?

I just want to make sure I didn't get a bad or contaminated batch.

Thanks!

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SASS#23149
May 6, 2006, 10:41 AM
If so sounds like some Trail Boss flakes got mixed in some how.Don't seem likely but TB does have holes in it, and look like little o's.

NoahFN
May 6, 2006, 11:13 AM
Yeah, thats what they look like. Cheerios. I don't see how any trail boss could get mixed in either.

Perhaps this is something I should call them on. I thought for sure someone would tell me that yes indeed this is how Clays should look.

Jim Watson
May 6, 2006, 01:48 PM
I looked at some Clays... no holes in any granule that I looked at with a magnifying glass.

I looked at some Trail Boss... holes in all granules, naked eye visible.

Trail Boss is about the same color as Clays, granules thicker but only a little larger diameter... but with holes.

I think you have some cross-contamination from Hodgdon's packaging operation.

Call 'em up and talk to a human, don't depend on e-mail, they may end up doing a recall, as they did with the H4227 cans containing 4198.

griz
May 7, 2006, 12:05 AM
I looked at my bottle of Clays. It had quite a few flakes with holes in them. The ones with holes appeared to be a little more yellow in color compared to the gray of the others. Trail boss's cheerio flakes were a little bigger and seemed more silver looking to me. Also the hole in them was much bigger than the occasional hole in the Clays. So even though it seems unusual, I don't think there is any mixed powder.
Please post whatever response you get.

Jim Watson
May 7, 2006, 12:33 AM
That is interesting, my jar of "holeless" Clays has been around a while, since well before Trail Boss came out. Maybe they have changed the mix for cost reduction or availablity of powder from ADI.

griz
May 11, 2006, 01:53 AM
Just for fun I took a pic of the two. Clays on the left, Trail boss on the right. As you can hopefully see, the holes in the occasional Clay flake are very small, and they don't look much like the TB cheerios. The color of the holey Clays is also slightly different.

Hope this helps, Griz

NoahFN
May 11, 2006, 11:31 AM
Griz, my clays looks the same as yours. I think I'm in the clear here. The trail boss flakes do have a much more distinct cheerio shape.

Thanks for the pics. :)

mrapathy2000
May 12, 2006, 03:41 AM
does the hodgdon clays come from australia like the universal?
how about trailboss?

Kelly J
May 24, 2006, 01:19 AM
I've used Clays Powder for quite a while Never seen Holes in it.

Murphster
May 24, 2006, 08:15 AM
Bought my first jar of Clays two weeks ago. Haven't even used any yet. Just looked in the container. Yep, there are Cheerio's in mine as well. Mine says it's made in Australia and packed in the USA.

Kelly J
May 24, 2006, 09:47 PM
It probably wont do any good but today I e-mailed hodgdon to ask about the holly powder, maybe I will get lucky and get a reply. If I do I will post it here.

Kelly J
May 25, 2006, 01:11 AM
As I promised I wrote to Hodgdon and supprise I got an answer back and here it is, even though I do not believe the responder.
________________________________________________________________

No, actually they have always been there.

Dave Campbell
Customer Service
Hodgdon/IMR

________________________________________________________________

From: KJ [mailto:cobra44@planetkc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:09 AM
To: Help Account
Subject: Clays Powder
I've used Clays for a long time now and today I opened a new bottle and noticed something I have never seen before holes in the middle of the powder?

Is this a change?

MarshallDodge
May 25, 2006, 01:28 AM
I have been using Clays for over 10 years and the little Cheerios have always been there. Good stuff!

griz
May 25, 2006, 09:39 AM
As I promised I wrote to Hodgdon and supprise I got an answer back

I have had good luck getting timely answers from Hodgdon, and other gun related firms as well. I would encourage anyone to at least try before assuming that they will not talk to you.

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