"SIG p 239 9mm" rate it as a carry gun...


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Safety First
January 3, 2003, 10:52 PM
I recently started carrying only this September. I purchased a sig p239 9mm because at the time it seemed like an excellent carry gun.. After carrying and shooting it only a few months, I still am pleased... What opinions are out there on the 239 ??????

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Kahr carrier
January 3, 2003, 11:12 PM
I like the Sig p239 the grips are nice and thin. They are a quality gun.Out of curiousity how come you didnt go with the 40Cal. P-239?
:)

Marko Kloos
January 3, 2003, 11:15 PM
The P239 is an excellent carry gun in any caliber. I've owned two P239s in 9mm, and both of them were extremely accurate and 100% reliable. The thin and short grip makes for easy concealment, and the whole gun is typical SIG Sauer quality.

It's hard to do better than a SIG P239 for CCW. It's a great gun in every respect, and one of the best civilian CCW pieces on the market.

Mal H
January 4, 2003, 12:43 AM
Ditto on what lendringser said. I want to reemphasize the 100% reliability of the P239. For me that's not an exaggeration, it's 100% reliable not 99.999%. The P239 is the only pistol I have that has never failed in any way whatsoever from round #1 on. Reliability is one of the, if not the, most important attributes a carry pistol must have.

Forseti
January 4, 2003, 12:54 AM
Mine was reliable, but not as accurate as my P7. I was not shooting consistent groups. Sold it.

It was a reasonable gun, but I expected more from it. I don't regret selling it. Not saying it was bad, just had another of the same caliber and size I liked much better.

EOD Guy in VA
January 4, 2003, 01:54 AM
I think it's the best CCW weapon on the market today.
100% reliable.

HadEmAll
January 4, 2003, 02:12 AM
I think it's a beautiful weapon and mine was 100% reliable, but couldn't STAND the trigger action compared to other small autos I owned. Maybe that was my problem, the comparison. I rated mine 4th after my Glock 23, Kahr K40 and S&W 457. Regretfully sold it to a friend. Every now and then I get the urge to give them another try (like every gun show). They are pretty.

Arkady
January 4, 2003, 03:36 AM
It's an excellent choice for CCW.

It's small, accurate, reliable, in a decent enough caliber, and it's a Sig. What else do you need?

dacinokc
January 4, 2003, 04:27 AM
Ditto the others, it is one of my favorites as a CCW. Like Kahr Carrier, I am curious if you had looked at the 239 in 40 S&W? The 9mm is extremely controlable for sure, but in a CCW I also looked for as much leathality as I could, and the 239 in 40 seems to be a perfect match up.
But I do own one in 9mm also:D

I have Houge grips on mine with allen bolts in place of the flat heads, and I sent the gun to Sig for a short trigger and a lightening and smoothing job on the action. It is a great deal price wise, and when they do it it does not void the warrenty! I installed a fit Barsto barrel, had it cryo frozen, and jewelled just for looks. It had factory night sight, so in my book there is nothing else to do.. :cool:

Prodigalshooter
January 4, 2003, 12:55 PM
I like mine a bunch, even if I can't carry it. It is very accurate for such a small gun. This is the pistol I take along when we travel, it doesn't take up much space and with an extra mag I've got 16 rounds of security in a small pkg.

Waste of Money
January 4, 2003, 02:56 PM
I own a 239/357 TT and have been very satisfied with it using Milt Sparks VM2 holsters and Gold Dots. It's been 100% reliable through the first 900 rds and shoots better than me. I wouldn't consider any other weapon for CCW except a Kahr K40 for me.

txgolfer45
January 4, 2003, 03:20 PM
As nice as my G19 or G26!! Maybe weighs more though.

Scott

Pilot
January 4, 2003, 07:04 PM
I sold my Sig 239 as it wasn't as accurate or easy to shoot for me as my P7M8, Walher P-5 or Sig 225. Maybe its the slim grips, but I always felt the recoil was sharper. I can't imagine shooting it in .40.

sig970
January 4, 2003, 07:15 PM
Once I slapped a hogue wrap around grip on it, my P239 in 9mm became my warm weather handgun of choice. 100% reliable, accurate, and Sig quailty.

sonoranjack
January 4, 2003, 07:26 PM
I don't like the DA/SA trigger transition, so I never look at Sigs. If I wanted a CCW pistol the size of Sig 239/Glock 26. I would give a hard look at Kahrs new T9 Novak. 6.5" of over all length & a full sized grip. I think I put a fondle on 1 at a gunshow & the mag well was below the bottom of my hand for easy mag changes. Single stack 8rd mag, 9mm. This means the pistol is thinner than a Glock 26. Also thinner off side mags. The only ? is how does it shoot. I like the idea of DAO only w/ a light trigger of about 8#. Which would be a litle heavier than my Glock 17 w/ a 3.5# trigger. But if it means getting rid of the trigger safety I might go for it. Now if the Kahr has a heavy DAO trigger like 12# forget it. Did I say it comes w/ night sights. All I know is I hear alot about Kahr pistols but nothing about the T9 Novak.

JeepDriver
January 4, 2003, 07:27 PM
Had mine for only 2 weeks so far. But I love it. I shot 1000 rounds (9MM) through it so far, about 250 of that was Gold Dots, and hasn't failed me yet. I carry it in a Galco U.S.A IWB and I forget its there. I looking into sending mine off to Robar for some work soon. But out of the box it has been a great gun. It replaced my G23, that just got traded off for a BHP

xring
January 7, 2003, 12:01 AM
I haven't fired mine yet, but if it is as sweet shootin as my 245, I will be happy.

r

jame
January 7, 2003, 01:05 AM
On the weekends, mine is with me more than my wife. Matched mine with the Hogue Rubber grips and it becomes a sniper gun. It's never failed me yet.

RH Factor
January 7, 2003, 10:43 AM
I've had my 239 in 40 cal for almost a year and a half....It's my "go to gun" always dependable and accurate. I've never had one single failure, no matter what the ammo.

SodaPop
January 7, 2003, 11:32 AM
Its one of two guns I've been shopping for. I just checked out a couple used ones in the $450 range. Too bad I'm broke.

Sigs are nice but about $100 over-priced. I saw one NIB for $580.

I'm shoping for a used one since I have faith in the design, but I just ain't paying almost $600 for a tiny little gun.

Rinspeed
January 7, 2003, 11:34 PM
I don't know what to add that hasn't been said.
Very accurate, 100% reliable and easy to conceal.
I don't see how you can get much better. I carry
mine in a Alessi Talon Plus which is a ideal
combination.

Rinspeed

cheygriz
January 8, 2003, 08:19 PM
Simply the best CCW available today. I have the 9MM, which I consider the best CCW caliber available. My son has a P239 in .40 *&* which he loves as well. I've shot the .40 with hot Winchester loads and it's easily controllable. Not as good as the 9MM in that department, but certainly more than acceptable.

Carbon_15
January 8, 2003, 09:01 PM
All of my guns were lost in a recent divorce, and I was left without a CCW. I went shopping for a new carry gun and finaly decided on a 239 TT. What I initialy wanted was a Glock 19 but in the end chose the Sig over the Glock based solely on apeal. I was used to having a large collection of handguns, nicly devided into niche roles and special purposes (I had my warm weather carry guns, cold weather carry guns, pure range toys, plinkers, show-off/bar-b-que guns, teach-newbies-to-shoot guns, etc). Since the divorce has put me on a tight budget, I knew I wouldn't be buying lots of guns for a while, so I wanted one gun to serve many purposes until things level out. In my opinion, the 239 is a great multi-purpose weapon. Its small enough to carry winter or summer, yet large enough to be comfortable to shoot and accurate. I can take newbies to the range with it, or spend the afternoon bouncing cans. I would have prefered it in .357SIG, but I can buy 9mm ammo for $10 per 100, so I'll settle for the trade in power to be able to shoot lots more. Plus, .357SIG in such a small gun wouldn't be a good intro to handguns for the inexperianced.
In the end, the deciding factor between the Glock 19 and Sig 239 two-tone was that the Sig filled one more niche than the Glock....Bar-B-que gun :cool:

Now I just need a Glock 20 and a 29 and I'll have all my "needs" taken care of..then its on to the way-to-long wants list.

Zander
January 9, 2003, 12:35 PM
My every day carry piece is a P239/.357SIG with Nill combat grips.

Why? Not because it isn't quite concealable [it is], or too heavy [it isn't] or easy to pack [it is]; rather because it's a SIG, and no out-of-the-box combat pistol is as reliable as a SIG, IME.

The fact that I shoot it more accurately out to 50 yards than anything else I carry is a secondary benefit. :cool:

Kentucky Rifle
January 9, 2003, 12:58 PM
That IS a drag! Every single gun? What an empty feeling THAT would produce!
Sorry. It must have been an acrimonious divorce. :(

KR

JPM70535
January 9, 2003, 01:14 PM
My oldest son swears by the Sig 239 in 9mm. He soots it very well and would own more if he could afford them. My only compaint has to do with the trigger. I realize that this is not a target piece, but IMO the trigger is just too gritty which makes a smooth stroke impossible. In comparison, I have 3 S&W tactical pistols in 9mm 40 and 45acp. The trigger pulls are just as long as the Sigs but much smoother and easier to use.
Other than that the 239 is an excellent value and I certainly would feel adequately armed with one.

cslinger
January 9, 2003, 02:45 PM
Blasphemy I say. Ya heretic. :cuss:

Wow, I have actually never fired a SIG with a bad trigger. The reset is long but they have all been extremely smooth out of the box and get better with age.

I am no trigger guru so I might just be a heathen who doesn't know any better.

I am not slamming your post, I am just joking around. I am sure there are gritty SIG triggers out there just like there are jamming Glocks etc. They all have bad apples. That is just one thing I have never seen or more aptly felt before.

As for your Smith's are the TSWs really that nice? I have heard nothing but good things about them, with the exception of the plastic FGR. I think they are very attractive and I really like the feel of that 3913. I have a thing for single stack and small frame autos.

Bob Locke
January 10, 2003, 05:05 AM
First pistol I bought for myself was a P239. Loved that little gun. Used to shoot circles around guys using "competition" guns. One guy had a Colt Gold Cup and he kept looking around the partition to see what I was using to systematically remove the "X" ring on the target. When he saw a short-barreled 9mm he just cringed.

Then I sold it.

To me, it was a little on the heavy side, and I couldn't find a comfortable spot for it. I probably could have kept looking, but I had fallen in love with a Glock 19 and there was no way for me to keep the P239 AND buy that G19 (wife and three kids, E-6 in the Navy at the time).

I'd give it a 7 out of 10 for a carry piece. Maybe an 8.

M1911
January 10, 2003, 09:40 AM
I've got a P239 in .40. It's a decent gun, but I don't carry it. I find it to be a bit big, especially compared to my Kahr K40. It feels top-heavy in my hands, even when loaded. The DA trigger is pretty good and so is the SA trigger. I expect both could be improved by a good gunsmith. I don't like the location of the slide stop, as I'm used to the 1911 location. If you use the overhand method to release your slide during an emergency reload, then the position of the slide stop probably isn't important to you. I use the slide stop during an emergency reload, so I like mine to be where I can reach them with my support thumb.

In my limited use of it, my P239 has been accurate and reliable. It does seem to have a high bore axis, resulting in a fair degree of muzzle rise. It's certainly a good gun, but doesn't quite work for me. YMMV.

SodaPop
January 10, 2003, 11:50 AM
M1911- I'll buy it off of your for $435.

M1911
January 10, 2003, 02:57 PM
Sorry SodaPop, selling guns is against my religion.

Onslaught
January 10, 2003, 04:03 PM
Not me... If I don't like it, I sell it.

Hey SodaPop... gimme a few days to play with this 239 I just bought for a really good price. If I don't like the slide release, I'll sell it to you for what I paid for it. :D

M1911
January 10, 2003, 07:07 PM
Onslaught: I don't sell guns for two reasons. First, I may change my mind about not liking it. Second, here in MA (or in CA, or MD, etc.), you never know when the law may change so that you would be unable to replace it. At least 1/2 of the pistols that I own I can not now buy in MA.

Onslaught
January 11, 2003, 01:34 AM
1911 -
If I live in MA, I'd probably feel the same way. Also, thanks to that "MA Compliant" BS, I've seen some premium prices for those MA Compliant used pistols... Probably hard to get your $$$ back. I've sold plenty of handguns, and so far, only regretted it once (USP45f). I managed to trade back the pistol I bought with the proceeds from the one I sold and get another one to replace it... I sure won't be selling IT again!

I really like this Sig so far, but ever since you pointed out the slide stop location (I'm left handed) I've been trying to figure out how I'm going to work it... I'm not about to re-learn the slide release technique for one pistol!

I'm so darned picky! :banghead:

The "top heavy" part doesn't bother me, since all my other pistols are polymer framed. And since this is my first Sig, I don't have the "better feel" of the 229's and such to compare with. The only other Sig I've ever fired was the Pro 2340, and it was topheavy too.

SodaPop
January 11, 2003, 02:21 AM
M1911- Can you leave it in your will? For me ?:D Being cheap is my religion.

lunde
January 11, 2003, 11:35 AM
My Sig P239 (.357 Sig) is one of my favorite pistols. Mine also has the Nill stippled combat grips installed.

http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/photos/p239-left.jpg

M1911
January 12, 2003, 05:37 PM
Onslaught:
I really like this Sig so far, but ever since you pointed out the slide stop location (I'm left handed) I've been trying to figure out how I'm going to work it... I'm not about to re-learn the slide release technique for one pistol!If I were you, I'd use your right hand to rack the slide. The slide stop is too far back to use your left index finger.

The MA market has, indeed, become way out of wack. I recently bought a Kimber Custom Royal Compact in a private sale from a MA resident (all perfectly legal). It wasn't in great shape -- I'd say finish was 85%. Tritium capsules are dead, but Kimber says they're under warranty. Needs an action job as there's a bit of creep in the trigger. Cost was $900 and I was lucky to get it.

Sodapop: Yes. No. I understand.

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