Hodgdon Titegroup?


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Chuck Perry
April 24, 2003, 10:51 PM
Anyone using it? Based on a report in Dillon's latest issue of the Bluepress I went out and got a pound today. Pretty cheap, 13.99 compared to 16.99 for just about every other brand's pistol powders. Looking through Hodgdon's manual, seems to be a good pick for a "universal" pistol powder, everything from 9mm thru 45 Colt. Not the fastest velocities, but very versatile. Looking forward to trying this stuff out.

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pooch
April 25, 2003, 02:20 AM
I use it for medium velocity 9mm target loads and low velocity .357/ 148 hb wadcutter target loads. It works well in both, and is pretty clean. ...pooch

PJ
April 25, 2003, 02:03 PM
Use it to reload 45 Colt, and it works well for target type loads. It also burns much cleaner than Bullseye.
Pete

Fed168
April 25, 2003, 02:06 PM
Another thumbs up for it. I use it for all pistol loads- really don't want to change powders cause this stuff is great. Clean burning, consistant, very pleased with it.
I ain't no salesman neither.

wingman
April 25, 2003, 03:05 PM
I find it great in lite to medium loads for
the 45acp.

stevesmith7
April 25, 2003, 04:18 PM
And the price gets better as you usually use less Titegroup than most other pistol powders.

Steve

euclid
April 25, 2003, 10:54 PM
Same thoughts here. It's a great powder for my .40 target loads. Very accurate.

poof...

mark mcj
April 26, 2003, 09:59 PM
I've burned close to 12 lbs. of it in pistols loads.
.45 ACP
9mm Luger
.38 Special

My brass looks a little funny shooting .40 cal out of a Glock. I use HP38 for that.
I really can't enough velocity with Titegroup for .357's without FLAT primers.

ambidextrous1
April 26, 2003, 10:10 PM
I bought a pound of the stuff, based on what I read in the Blue Press; I wonder how many hundred pounds that article has sold?

I agree, Titegroup meters more uniformly than Bullseye, and my first trip to the range (this morning) with test lots in .45 ACP was a positive experience, with light to moderate loads. I normally load a bit hotter than standard (950 fps with 230 grain TMJ), and don't know if Titegroup will get me there. If not. I'll use up the rest of the pound on .380 loads.

I'd appreciate knowing what charge & velocity others are getting; the usual disclaimers are expected and agreed to...

Shoot safe,
;)

Fatelvis
April 26, 2003, 10:55 PM
In my 45 auto, Ive been using 4.5 grns Bullseye under a 200 gr LSWC, and getting great results in the accuracy department. How much Titegroup would give me the same velocity/pressure, as my load? Thanx-

Yo
April 27, 2003, 02:09 AM
Inexpensive to use. Quite accurate and not very position sensitive. I've found it works very well in 9mm and 44mag (light loads). However, the very tiny flakes tend to stick to everything on your loading bench, and they cling to the side of the powder measure.

Also, I and many others have found that it soots cases very badly with .45 acp. Particularly bad in HKs and Glocks with generous chambers. You'll be happier with Clays or American Select. Just as clean, quiter "bang" and it won't soot your .45 cases.

FAL_Freak
April 27, 2003, 05:47 AM
I guy I know likes it in his 45 ACP. Claims it's very accurate with a 5 grain load pushing a 230 grain bullet. The store was out of it when I bought my first set of components to try loading so I got some IMR PB instead. Very similar powders, but I'd rather have Tightgroup.

Don of Kalifornia
April 27, 2003, 10:39 AM
I bought some Tite-Group too from the article. Loaded some 115 gr 9mm, with 4 gr Tite-Group, talk about sweet shooting taregt loads, and accurate.Looks like I need to try Tite-Group out in my 45 acp next time i load a batch of 45 ammo.


Don of **********

CMcDermott
April 27, 2003, 08:19 PM
I've used it for the last couple years for my Cowboy load (41 Mag, 5.0 gr Titefroup, generic 215 SWC, WLP) and for my Bullseye shooting (45 ACP, 3.8 gr Titegroup, WLP, 12 Lb recoil spring in my 1911). It burns fairly clean in these low pressure loads and meters well through the Uniflow measure on my RCBS 2000 press.

Powderman
April 27, 2003, 08:54 PM
I'm using 4.8 grains with a 185 gr. Montana Gold JHP in .45. Really sweet shooting, and accurate as all get out!

Longbow
April 27, 2003, 10:46 PM
Very good stuff! It meters well, not sensitive to powder position, not temperature sensitive, burns clean and best of all,...... its less expensive than WW231!
I'm currently using it for .40 cal and 9mm, and so far I'm impressed! ' will buy an 8 # jug in the very near future!

agony
April 28, 2003, 01:23 AM
Just shot a couple hundred rounds of 4.5gr Titegroup, 185gr Hornady JSWC ENC, with Federal large pistol primers.

This stuff is dirty! Read mixed reviews about how clean/dirty it was on TFL, but it is as sooty as Bullseye.
It did shoot very well, but not as tight as the same bullet with 4.2 gr Bulllseye.

I need to try it in some 9mm loads.

Clays is definitely cleaner.

Powderman
April 28, 2003, 01:52 AM
Boost your charge to 4.8 under the 185 grain JHP or JSWC to duplicate the military match load. Use Federal 150 primers. I have good luck with it; fairly clean, and will cycle a pistol with an 18 lb. spring. I crimp to .470 for my loads.

mark mcj
April 28, 2003, 10:45 AM
From what I've used, the lighter loads of of TG are dirter. Work up a couple of tenths and it will start to clean up some, if not alot.

Poodleshooter
April 28, 2003, 08:22 PM
It's a decent powder, but I've had trouble with the suggested loads for .45ACP in my Glock 30. It seems to need either a hefty crimp or an increased charge in order to generate enough pressure to burn well with the bullets I'm using. In a chronographing session, I found that 230gr LRN loads were running a sooty,weak, 550fps uncrimped, and nearly 800 with the only change being the addition of a heavy crimp from a Lee FCD.
I've had no problems with it in my .38 loads, even though they're usually uncrimped.
Try crimping heavier to get rid of that soot. It burns well under pressure. Clays doesn't seem as sensitive to crimp, but try changing your powder position in the case, and Clays extreme spreads end up much higher.

SDC
April 28, 2003, 08:26 PM
I use it for my 9mm and .40 S&W loads, and I really like it; the only problem that I might see with it is that it takes up so little space, that you could easily double- or even TRIPLE charge a case with it, and not notice. :eek:

agony
April 28, 2003, 10:39 PM
Ooops! I meant 5.3gr of Titegroup.

Still dirty. Can I go heavier than this? This was the recommended load for that particular bullet.

357Man
April 28, 2003, 10:54 PM
Hey, another voice to the chorus. I picked up a pound of it as well after reading Blue Press. I had looked at buying it before, but I had a bunch of WW231 already.

So far, I've tried it in .45 ACP and .357 Magnum. The .45 was with both 200 and 230 grain bullets, the .357 with 125 HPs.
I think I'm going to like this stuff. Seems to burn cleanly; they are right on the can about a little going a long way. My usual load with 200 grain SWCs in .45 ACP is 5.2 grains of WW231. I tried 5.0 grains of Titegroup and got a lot more velocity than the load I'd been shooting. Also, 4.5 grains Titegroup with a 230 lead RN shot well, seemed to be a good equivalent for 230 hardball.

In .357, the 125s got downrange in a hurry. Nothing like a full power charge of WW296, but still moving along. Probably in the 1300 fps range out of a 4" barrel. Very accurate - might take the title of my favorite .357 practice load.
It's going to take more fooling around with the stuff before I really make up my mind about it, but so far so good.

bpisler
May 12, 2003, 08:07 PM
Titegroup works well for me in 357mag,44spl and 45 colt.I think it's a great powder.If a person needs reloading data for it they can go to www.hodgdon.com they even have cowboy loads listed.

357Man
May 12, 2003, 11:00 PM
Since my last post, I've tried out Titegroup in .38 Special +P loads with 125 grain bullets, and with 158 grain JHPs in .357 cases for a "target load".
Whoa! Great accuracy and velocity in the .38 cases. Probably the most accurate load in .38 cases I've tried in my S&W 686.
In a TC Contender I use for silhouette shooting, the 158 JHPs worked great. Very very clean burning in this application.

radio-voice
October 10, 2009, 07:09 PM
I've been using the Berry's Plated 165 grain flat point bullets with 4.9 grains of Titegroup and it has worked quite well. Plan to stick with it for use in my Gloack 23 and 27. I load with a Dillon RL550B.

Noveldoc
October 10, 2009, 07:57 PM
I have shot Titegroup in 45 ACP for months. Tried it when I could not get Bullseye.

I now like it better. I find it very clean. Get excellent accuracy with a 200 gr. medium hard lead RN FP over 4.4 grains. Moderate crimp and Federal LP primers.

Keep me posted. I did use it with same bullet over 5.4 grain load. Did well. No leading either load in my Smith 4506 or Star PD.

Tom

(Usual precautions with my load info please.)

Tinpig
October 11, 2009, 12:48 AM
I've been using it for a year in .38 spl, 9mm and 45 ACP. Great stuff.
At first I was concerned that the small loads called for might make for uneven ignition but that hasn't been the case, and those small loads sure stretch a can out.

Tinpig

PO2Hammer
October 11, 2009, 01:13 AM
Great stuff for target loads and jacketed bullets in 9mm .38 Super and .45acp.

Tried in .357 mag with lead and didn't care for it, accurate but dirty.

Noveldoc
October 11, 2009, 01:34 AM
And mine is quite clean. Apparently, some people get a more complete burn than others. Anybody have an idea why?

Tom

PO2Hammer
October 11, 2009, 12:21 PM
I'm only loading to about 900 fps with a 140 grain bullet, probably the difference. (IHMSA Field Pistol load)

Using .060 vegetable fiber wads under the bullet helps make it a little cleaner.

Have some VV N320 on order for light lead loads.

lgbloader
October 11, 2009, 02:24 PM
Have some VV N320 on order for light lead loads.

Sorry to Hijack the thread but you are going to love this powder...

LGB

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