Fixed blade for concealed carry - recommendations?


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dev_null
May 6, 2006, 09:07 PM
OK, yet another thread where you get to pimp your favorite maker. Here's what I'm looking for:


Fixed blade
Under 6" (blade, not overall) to comply with TX laws Edit: Under 5.5"
Doesn't cost an arm and a leg, but is good quality even if not creme de la creme
Comes with a sheath that can be used for concealed carry - horizontal or, preferably, IWB (not a shoulder holster)
Alternatively, a 3rd party sheath of that description can be obtained


1 - 3 are must-haves, 4 & 5 are nice-to-haves.

Thoughts?


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proud2deviate
May 6, 2006, 10:36 PM
Spyderco Kumo.

http://spyderco.com/pix/products/med/FB11_M.jpg (http://spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=194)

They're less on ebay. Currently $109~$150 on in various stores. Other dealers will likely have decent deals on them, if you're willing to look.


Just how much are your arms and legs worth to you?:evil:

ndh87
May 6, 2006, 11:45 PM
Try lookin at push knives. i just ordered a Cold Steel Safe Keeper III. Cold Steel is one of the few companies I've seen that makes them. I also have a Gerber Guardian, its a great knife. holds a good edge, its light enough that you dont notice it when you clip it in your boot too.

13.45
May 7, 2006, 12:11 AM
CRKT Polkowski/Kasper Companion
(FAR from my favorite maker, but meets/exceeds each of your criteria in a very well-designed package ;))

Bigreno
May 7, 2006, 02:10 PM
dev_nul,

Just an FYI but in Texas it's 5 1/2" max on a legal knife (TX PC 46.01). Not 6 inches.

CHAPTER 46. WEAPONS

6) "Illegal knife" means a:
(A) knife with a blade over five and one-half
inches;
(B) hand instrument designed to cut or stab
another by being thrown;
(C) dagger, including but not limited to a dirk,
stilletto, and poniard;
(D) bowie knife;
(E) sword; or
(F) spear.

That being said I have a sweet spot for the Benchmade Nimravus. I've handled quite a few,but I am still looking for that "good deal" on one.

...I'm kinda cheap.:o

Oh, BTW. You also need to avoid double edged knives because they fall under the definition of a dagger.

dev_null
May 7, 2006, 02:32 PM
BR, thanks for the clarification. That's what I get for not reading more carefully.

pipoman
May 7, 2006, 02:38 PM
By the looks of chapter 46 above you may want to get the definition of a "Bowie Knife" and "dagger, including but not limited to a dirk, stilletto, and poniard". The latter is usually sharpened on both sides of the blade. Is a bowie any fixed blade knife or a certain blade design?:confused:

combatpreacher
May 7, 2006, 04:08 PM
Benchmade...Elishewitz cub...ATS-34 steel...great sheath

HighVelocity
May 7, 2006, 04:31 PM
I really like my little Ka-bar TDI. It's handy as anything and for under $30 (anywhere but the ka-bar site) you can't beat it with a stick. :D

https://www.kabar.com/product_detail.jsp?productNumber=1480&mode=category&categoryId=1,7,9&categoryName=Law%20Enforcement

dev_null
May 7, 2006, 04:35 PM
p2d: I like the pseudo-Japanese style, but man, that spider is tacky! ;->

ndh87: Looking for a fighter for SD, not a backup/last resort, but thanks for the recommendation.

13.45: Looks very interesting, thanks!

BigReno: Nimravus looks very interesting too, thank you!

P-man: From what I hear, it's probably written vaguely not only because politicians are idiots, but also so that cops can have some wiggle room to use their judgment (good OR bad) based on the situation.

combatpreacher, all the Benchmade Elishewitz knives I found were folders. Am I missing something?

HighVelocity, I have a Kabar already (two, actually, one of which is not made in the USA): not bad for the money, but the sheath is junk. I haven't found any aftermarket sheaths that fit the knife and my needs, and I'm not sure of the wisdom of having a custom sheath made that costs more than the knife. (Already did that with my Oyabun, and while the sheath is gorgeous, it's a belt-hanger ...not to mention at 9" the blade is a tad illegal!)

Thanks, guys, keep 'em coming!

combatpreacher
May 7, 2006, 05:36 PM
It is an older knife...but I have it in my hand as I wright...could be called the nimvarus now...

Has black blade...says benchmade on one side and elishewitz ats-34 on the other

synthetic black scaled handle and is fixed...I bought it for about $85.00 ten years ago...man is it sharp!

WalP99
May 7, 2006, 07:02 PM
I would suggest a Cold Steel Kobun:
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/specpro_1892_2373521

5 1/2" Tanto Blade - 1/2" at it's widest part on the handle - 1/8" thick blade - rubber handle and guard - plastic concealex sheath with belt/boot clip - razor sharp and keeps an edge - very flat knife

$39.99 at http://www.eknifeworks.com/webapp/eCommerce/product.jsp?Mode=Text&SearchText=kobun&Search.x=0&Search.y=0&Search=1&SKU=CS171T

jungle
May 7, 2006, 07:05 PM
Spyderco Perrin-out of production but easily located

Spyderco Temperence-current and nice

Benchmade Nimravus

Gerber Yari-out of production and a little harder to find

These will work well and meet you requirements, the Spydercos have thinner blades and are wicked slashers. The Perrin is very easy to carry and a great knife.

hso
May 7, 2006, 11:02 PM
In TX when they say "Bowie" they mean something very specific. Clip point, slightly upsweapt, clip may or may not be sharpened. They're not trying to be vague because Bowies were used for dueling and they wanted to make the weapon as well as the activity illegal.

More important than the knife is what training do you have or intend to get. This will influence the tool that best fits into that skill set. Think American "football" vs European "football". Each is a football, but the shape fits the play.

commygun
May 7, 2006, 11:46 PM
Another vote for the CRKT Companion. Not top of the line but a solid,
wicked-sharp, knife with a stout IWB sheath. $19.99 from eknifeworks.com.

Medusa
May 8, 2006, 02:33 AM
Gerber Sheridan?
http://www.gerbergear.com/product.php?model=1406

waterhouse
May 8, 2006, 12:04 PM
I like the hideaway knives. I've had it for a while now and it gets used several times a day. The utility version runs about $70

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=165167&highlight=hideaway

Zero_DgZ
May 8, 2006, 02:16 PM
Cold Steel Spike?

mongo
May 9, 2006, 12:06 AM
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it yet... www.dozierknives.com You WILL be able to find what you are looking for here. Bob Dozier makes one of the finest knives out there. His horizontal sheathes are works of art in themselves. He also offers IWB sheathes, and one that goes over the shoulder.

Gordon
May 9, 2006, 02:01 AM
Here's my favorite concealment fixed blade knife:

http://www.mdtactical.com/maddog/vdcat.htm

texascarl
May 9, 2006, 12:27 PM
Dozier knives rock, but if they're out of the price range that CRKT Companion is a great buy at eknives/Smokey Mountain. I carry one strapped to my backpack's chest harness, considering having a new kydex sheath made for it.

Mora 2000 with a new kydex sheath would be another excellent choice, and even with the sheath it won't break the bank. Links below, the Mora 2000 is about halfway down Ragnar's page:

http://www.ragweedforge.com/SwedishKnifeCatalog.html

http://www.mnsi.net/~nbtnoel/products.htm
http://www.mnsi.net/~nbtnoel/m2k.jpg

1911JMB
May 9, 2006, 01:46 PM
I'd think the Boker Applegate Fairbairn boot knife would be a good one.

http://www.knifepro.com/product.asp?ProdID=4204

dev_null
May 9, 2006, 03:03 PM
combatpreacher: Another vote for the Nimravus, check.

WalP99: Funny, I have one of the CS Tantos on order already!

jungle: Duly noted, thanks.

hso: Good points. I had already figured I needed to avoid double-edged (boot knives, etc.) to stay clear of the dagger or dirk clause, thanks for clarifying on Bowies. Ironic, given where Jim Bowie died...

commygun: Gotcha, thanks.

Medusa: That would work. Can't tell about the sheath, looks "tactical."

waterhouse: Too small for me, but thanks. I'm looking for a "fighting" model for when I can't carry the Kimber.

Zero_DgZ: Not my style, but thanks for the suggestion.

mongo: Sweet, but a bit more than I was looking to pay. Bookmarked the site anyway. *wink*

Gordon: Very nice, but about 4x what I was looking to pay.

texascarl: Nice designs, but at 1/10" thickness, I'm thinking these are more suited for fishermen, etc., than for SD?

1911JMB: I'd love one, but the Tx legislature, in their infinite wisdom, have decreed that knives with more than one sharp edge are EVIL.


Thanks all, I'm still collecting info. So far, looks like Nimravus is leading by a length.

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1911JMB
May 10, 2006, 02:18 PM
<1911JMB: I'd love one, but the Tx legislature, in their infinite wisdom, have decreed that knives with more than one sharp edge are EVIL.?

So did Michigan. Thing is, they come dull. Just sharpen the one side. Many manufacturers ship their knives dull for just that reason.

Normark
June 22, 2006, 11:26 AM
Hey Guys....

The problem with alot of the production knives is that, they may claim to do IWB carry, and some of them do,, however they don't do it very well...

When I see sheaths claimimg to be IWB and they come with a cheap little plastic clip, or a metal clip for that matter it makes me shudder...

When using these types of sheaths for SD IWB concealed purposes,, in the event that you need it for such duty, the sheath will fail you at the worst possible moment.

If you've ever drawn a knife that you carry IWB and pulled out a sheathed knife, you know what I mean...

A sheath that is carried for this purpose , Must stay put, and Never fail you on a draw. It must work 100%, 100% of the time.

The sheaths that claim to be IWB I wouldn't trust my life with...

ttyle

Eric....

Fosbery
June 22, 2006, 11:36 AM
Personally, my favourite fixed blade fighter is the Boker Applegate Fairbairn boot knife. Some of the best 440C steel on the market, excellent design, very sturdy etc. It comes with a good kydex sheath but I dunno how concealable it is. Personally I'd get an AF boot but also get an after-market sheath for whatever position you prefer.

Ohen Cepel
June 22, 2006, 12:00 PM
After you select the knife that you like I would check this guy out

http://hometown.aol.com/lifter4him1/myhomepage/profile.html

If you go the the bottom of the page in the center he has a nice horizontal rig that works for a lot of blades. Very well made and he's a great guy to deal with also! Cost about $30 if I recall correctly.

That way you can pick out the blade you like the best without a concern about the sheath. I know finding the right combo is usually the worse part of it and seldom works out. Also, keeps you from compromising.

22-rimfire
June 22, 2006, 11:22 PM
Check out the Dozier line of Custom knives. He has a number of suitable fixed blade knives for daily carry. His horizontal kydex sheath (Sheath A) is also really slick. I have the Straight Hunter for general use, but in like the Canoe and Whittler models as well. He also has some with the top edge partially sharpened depending on your preferences.

His knives are not cheap but he has and excellent reputation. Check them out: http://www.dozierknives.com/

Valkman
June 23, 2006, 12:08 AM
Lifter makes great sheaths - I have 2 for Strider folders. You won't find a better guy to deal with either. :)

Dozier's knives are great - anyone that learned from Loveless makes great stuff to me.

rbmcmjr
June 23, 2006, 12:46 AM
Lots of votes for Dozier, but no mention of Tom Krein, whose stuff is very similar. The TK-7 or 8 meet the requirements of your wish list very nicely (albeit not a cheaply as some of the alternatives discussed).

http://www.kreinknives.net/tk_7.htm
http://www.kreinknives.net/tk_8.htm

You won't be disappointed with the knives or the man.

Rick

Dirty Bob
June 23, 2006, 10:05 AM
dev_null:

I had the same question a while ago, and I made some choices that have worked for me: Pocket knife - a 2.5"-blade all-stainless skinner with a finger hole. It rides in my pocket, attached to my keys, and is hanging right in front of me while behind the wheel. It's so thin and light that it's no trouble at all to carry. This is my EDC knife.


Kabar TDI. Yes, the sheath is not ideal, but I like the knife well enough to think that a custom sheath is worth the trouble. I'm using a Kydex IWB, with belt loop, and I'm messing with some ideas of my own to home build a scabbard. This knife is carried when wardrobe/circumstances permit.


Deba Kocho - I purchased a Joyce Chen Deba kitchen knife (!) as the raw materials for a custom carry knife. It's 3/16" thick and chisel ground, with a broad blade and a nice. long concealed tang. It came shaving-sharp from the box. It was just $25 from a local World Market. I've shortened the 6" chef's type blade by about 1", from the base of the blade (lengthening and widening the tang in the process). I now need to fit a handle to it, to have a 5.25"-blade knife that looks a bit like a chef's knife. I plan to carry it IWB in a sheath of my own make. I could provide an image of the work in progress, if you like.
Good luck in your quest!

Regards,
Dirty Bob

Sgt Stevo
July 7, 2006, 12:08 AM
Check out our thr member Don Llewlins knives. he is making me 4 inch drop point hunter. he is in vegas.

Valkman
July 7, 2006, 01:36 AM
I appreciate that Steve! Krein makes great stuff too - well there are many, many great makers out there. If you join and spend some time at a place like www.usualsuspect.net you can get a feel for makers and their knives and get exposed to all kinds of different styles.

Check out places like http://www.bladeart.com/ and http://www.plazacutlery.com/ to see what you might like.

Best of all is when you get to talk to the maker and have him build exactly what you want. I like it so much I do more trades with knifemakers than anything! :D

Mac Attack
July 7, 2006, 08:34 AM
A late recommendation:

Semi-Custom:
Strider Knives - models SA or DB priced under $300

Custom:
Phil Hartsfield custom Kozuka - $300+

Both are quality knives and the makers guarantee their products.

Production:
Benchmade - Steve Corkum design - $100?

Steve Corkum is a thief but his design is sound.

Sgt Stevo
July 7, 2006, 12:46 PM
sorry about the spelling on your name Don. Im not bright, but I can lift heavy objects.:cool:

Dave P
July 7, 2006, 01:19 PM
Only 5.5" in Texas? Come to Florida:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/Finster123/Knives/PB110404.jpg

Randall, 7" I think.
Dave

Sgt Stevo
July 7, 2006, 09:08 PM
Any of you guys know the law on concealed straight knives in cal? Like lenth, or at all? thanks

orangeninja
July 7, 2006, 09:25 PM
Sorry to rain on the parade here, there are a lot of good knives recommended here, but not for the purpose that the author or the origional post needs.

I'm not talking quality......
I'm not talking concealability......
I'm talking about not getting thrown into the pokey.

Those dozier knives look great, and I'll bet 9 out of 10 Texas Peace Officers will toss you in cuffs for having either of the ones shown on their main page. They even call it a Bowie knife. If the manufacturer calls it a "Bowie", likely a judge/jury would agree.

Second, most anything that looks like a dagger, even if single edged, may be seen as a dagger/dirk......thus even though you may beat the charge in court, you'll have a night or two in jail to think about how you will.

Anything beveled on both ends will raise eyebrows, this may be overlooked on some folders, but on a fixed blade can mean the difference between "have a good night sir" and "You have the right to remain silent..."

I recommend sticking with Tanto type styles, avoid a push dagger or anything with the words "dirk", "dagger" or "bowie" in the title. Again, if you think you are in the right, you may be, but cops know less about knives than they know about guns and if he arrests you because of something the manufacturer calls a dagger, whose going to blame him?

Save yourself the hassel. Even a CHL will not save you from our draconian knife laws.....some believe differently, but try it yourself if you think I'm wrong.


Something like the Becker Necker http://www.camillusknives.com/1mainframe.htm?bkt/index.shtml~main

may fit the bill, maybe not but something like the http://www.policeone.com/police-products/duty-gear/knives/press-releases/90711/ Kershaw boot knife, even though technically legal (because I believe the other side, while beveled is blunted) will land you in jail because, to most cops, that's technically a dagger.

sm
July 7, 2006, 10:46 PM
alduro,

Yep, I hear you.

In your stomping grounds been known to have had in the sling I did not need...
That Old Hickory Utilility knife.
Why the folks I knew on Harry Hines , and nobody taking notice...lemons and limes need cuttin'
Fix them drinks and get them boys liquored up - they tip the "dancers" real well. :p

Some of the UC folks had Old Hickory's in boots too...I mean a "old bum" hanging around Reunion Arena is not going to have a very good knife no ways. ;)

For more "cultured" occaisons a Case Paring knife with Cherry wood handles is "acceptable". Fit in that inside pocket of my Blue Blazer, , or Tux, or...
just being sociable is all...

Need to check out some old stompin' grounds...
Traildust still cut off your tie if you come in wearing one?

orangeninja
July 7, 2006, 10:48 PM
Traildust? But of course. Anytime you're here abouts........give me a shout.

James T Thomas
July 8, 2006, 11:34 AM
Dear Sir:

Consider the Becker, BK-2, "Campanion." It suits your criteria; especially no.'s one and three.

The steel is the O1; it takes and holds a fine edge, and is tough!
Excellent sheath too, and I've seen them priced as low as $67.
Blade thickness is great, handle is great, and blade geometry is also a good design.

For what it's worth, I agree on your other post about carring a fixed blade, but of course here in PA it is legal. Thank God. Sorry, "The Great Spirit" I mean.

Charles S
July 8, 2006, 01:35 PM
Sorry to rain on the parade here, there are a lot of good knives recommended here, but not for the purpose that the author or the origional post needs.

I'm not talking quality......
I'm not talking concealability......
I'm talking about not getting thrown into the pokey.

Those dozier knives look great, and I'll bet 9 out of 10 Texas Peace Officers will toss you in cuffs for having either of the ones shown on their main page. They even call it a Bowie knife. If the manufacturer calls it a "Bowie", likely a judge/jury would agree.

Second, most anything that looks like a dagger, even if single edged, may be seen as a dagger/dirk......thus even though you may beat the charge in court, you'll have a night or two in jail to think about how you will.

Anything beveled on both ends will raise eyebrows, this may be overlooked on some folders, but on a fixed blade can mean the difference between "have a good night sir" and "You have the right to remain silent..."

I recommend sticking with Tanto type styles, avoid a push dagger or anything with the words "dirk", "dagger" or "bowie" in the title. Again, if you think you are in the right, you may be, but cops know less about knives than they know about guns and if he arrests you because of something the manufacturer calls a dagger, whose going to blame him?

Save yourself the hassel. Even a CHL will not save you from our draconian knife laws.....some believe differently, but try it yourself if you think I'm wrong.


Excellent overall advice, don't overlook the ability to carry an everday knife and utilize in a defense role if necessary.

Dozier makes a lot of knifes that are great for everday knifes but will also work in a defensive situation.

Texas makes it more difficult to carry a good defensive knife. I carry a Dozier Slim Outdoorsman and it has worked for me for years.

Charles

dev_null
July 8, 2006, 01:44 PM
Lots of good recommendations here, thanks.

Due to a combination of reasons (couldn't find anything to handle locally that I liked, so I had to order over the net), I ended up with: 1) Kabar (https://www.kabar.com/product_detail.jsp?productNumber=1256) ; 2) Cold Steel Tanto (http://www.coldsteel.com/fixed-blades-tanto-series.html); 3) CRKT First Strike (http://www.crkt.com/frststrk.html). They're all decent quality, but I've been mostly carrying the First Strike because I like the balance, looks, feel, and the striking pommel. It's also easy to go from OWB to IWB because the knife fits in the sheath either way. It's not the best steel in the world (I had real qualms about buying a Taiwanese manufactured piece), but since I'm not using it for a work/utility knife I figure will do the trick when needed.

I like the Kabar, but hate the crappy sheath, so it stays on a shelf within reach of the front door. The Tanto is also nice, light and very sharp, and I occasionally switch it out for the CRKT.

hso
July 8, 2006, 06:26 PM
Woops! Just saw you got a First Strike. 440A isn't a "super steel", but it's not crap like 420J and at least it's been properly heat treated with good quality control.
http://www.crkt.com/images/FIRSTRIKE06.jpg
Nice knife.

1911_CQB
July 9, 2006, 01:11 AM
+1 for the strider knives.

Geno
July 9, 2006, 10:12 AM
This is a good thread. Thanks!

Most days I like to carry my Leatherman tool, not for defense, but because they are so darned useful.

That aside, in Michigan one cannot conceal any defense object other than a pistol. One can carry a pocket knife, but that is a different matter. Indicate to a police officer that it is a defensive weapon, and you will likely be re-educated.

Too, many cities here simply make illegal the carry (on the body) of ANY form of knife for any purpose, even work. I think Dearborn is the most aggressive (according to our MCPL instructor). He further added that ANY knife that has a two-edged blade concealed is an instant felony. So, proceed with caution.

Edited to add:

The reason I began to carry a Leatherman tool is that when I was involved in a 5-car accident in 1995 (not my fault), I was unable to get out of my seatbelt for about 5 minutes. All 5 vehicles were totaled. What if the car (any of the 5) had caught fire??? Most cars would be fully burned out within 5 minutes. So, I promptly purchased a Leatherman tool in case I would need to cut my seatbelt, or for that matter, any other accident victim's seatbelt in the case of a burning vehicle. Last year, I also purchased a Cold Steel, "Land & Sea Rescue" that I leave in my vehicle for that purpose. But, I still carry the Leatherman.

Doc2005

p35
July 9, 2006, 11:40 AM
That TDI has an odd handle setup. What's it like to use?

tarrigoni
July 9, 2006, 01:21 PM
Valkman --
I appreciate that Steve! Krein makes great stuff too - well there are many, many great makers out there. If you join and spend some time at a place like www.usualsuspect.net you can get a feel for makers and their knives and get exposed to all kinds of different styles.

The only problem with joining the USN is that it ends up costing ridiculous amounts of money.

Fosbery
July 9, 2006, 02:09 PM
Strider. May be ugly, but they get the job done and they do it in half the time and bring you breakfast in bed afterwards.

Or, you could try one of THESE (http://www.darkopsknives.com/cgistore/store.cgi?page=/new/catalog.html&setup=1&cart_id).

Let's have a look at some of the advertised features:

"It can generate the last earthly sensation a terrorist feels on a quick trip to the hereafter"

"the knife is impervious to body sweat and humidity" (unlike every other piece of steel in the world)

"its design redefines concealable utility and lethality"

"extreme penetrating capability"

"the broadening penetrator tip is beveled as not to catch on bone or clothing"

"Deep blood grooves" (No such thing! :banghead: )

"extreme circumstances grip enhancement" (:scrutiny: )

"enhancements for real-time escape and evasion activities" (as opposed to turn-based escape and evasion???)

"impervious to everything from aviation fuel to Al Qaeda body fluids." (......)

Dirty Bob
July 9, 2006, 03:21 PM
P35 wrote:That TDI has an odd handle setup. What's it like to use? I like it. If I grab the TDI in a natural fist, the blade is in line with my forearm, much like a push dagger, but without everyone seeing it as nothing but a weapon. I also find the TDI works pretty well as a utility knife.

I wrote a review of the TDI for ModernSurvival last year. It's attached.

All my best,
Dirty Bob

oops!
July 9, 2006, 03:48 PM
Picked this up at a Houston gunshow.
$18.00
4" blade
only sharpened on one edge
440 ss
full tang
aluminum scales

Valkman
July 9, 2006, 06:16 PM
The only problem with joining the USN is that it ends up costing ridiculous amounts of money.

LOL

It made me try knifemaking which cost me about $10k with the trip to Blade and all the equipment, and now we're building a new house and of course I have to have a new shop. I'd have to sell knives for more than I do now and until I'm 90 just to break even! :) But it's not about that - it's about the fun I have making them and most I trade.

Anthony
July 10, 2006, 03:14 PM
If you don't mind the cost the best 5-inch bladed knife with a superior sheath system would be several of Bud Nealy's custom knives. Check these out at...

http://www.budnealyknifemaker.com/intro.html

John Greco makes several excellent knives in the 5-inch range, but his sheaths are simple leather belt pouches. I especially like John's MST and Whisper myself and have carried them for sometime. A separate order to Blade-Tech or Bob Dozier would deliver the sheath you were looking for though. In fact I think you'll find this to be the best option in many cases. Few production knives have truly superior sheath systems. Here are these links...

http://www.dozierknives.com/
http://www.blade-tech.com/
http://www.grecoknives.com/

My favorite pair of productions knives in this range would have to be the Spyderco Fred Perrin (recently discontinued, but still available) and Temperance models. I've handled the Benchmade Nimvarus and liked it as well.

TC-TX
July 18, 2006, 10:50 PM
is there an issue with the Great Ole Buck Knife?

PATHFINDER Model 105

I cut my teeth on this baby...

Hunting, fishing, camping, CCW
4.5 oz. (127 g.)
Black leather sheath
420HC Steel Blade
5" Blade (legal)

MSRP: $60.00 or less... ($30.00 at WallyWorld...)

Am I missing something?

Charles S
July 18, 2006, 11:00 PM
The Buck is an ok knife. In a terrible sheath.

The Buck was a great knife back when it was availabe in 440C. I think 420 makes poor knife steel, very hard, very brittle, and does not retain an edge well.

If yours is an older model it is an excellent knife. I would love to find one of the older Buck 105s. Great knife. I would get Blade Tech to make me a nice sheath and never need a different knife.

Charles

TC-TX
July 18, 2006, 11:07 PM
Actually Charles, the one I keep handy is a newer model...

I have an older 102 that has been around for 20 or so years...

What is it about the sheath that you dislike? I have always like the black leather but disliked the snap, as they get worn in short order...

TC-TX
July 18, 2006, 11:26 PM
Charles - what do you think about the Kershaw Boot Knife?

Dirty Bob
July 19, 2006, 12:53 AM
I've found this knife comfortable to carry (Kydex IWB) and very useful in the kitchen.

Regards,
Dirty Bob
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=42402&stc=1&d=1153284440

JTW Jr.
July 29, 2006, 08:28 PM
well ya only live once ....

Strider WP NM in Damascus ( sheath by me ).

http://members.cox.net/eki_karambit/leather/WP%20NM%20Sheath.jpg

RustyShackelford
July 30, 2006, 03:35 AM
Ernest Emerson(a former US Navy SEAL) sells a great knife for CC use.

MOD sells good blades too.

www.blackhawk.com

Rusty :cool:

orangeninja
July 30, 2006, 04:49 AM
That Kershaw Boot will end you up in jail quick in Texas. I just ordered a First Strike (CRKT) and soon am getting an Urban Pal (Cold Steel) and Kubon (Cold Steel) if I can find the Kubon in the new AUS steel.

TSH77769
August 2, 2006, 05:27 AM
CRKT Ryan Plan B
HAK
Benchmade Nimravus

tsh77769

Boom-stick
August 2, 2006, 11:34 AM
Fosbery,

you left out

"Interceptor 911 an incredibly effective fighting tool"

thats because, when you get it out, the enemy die laughing:D

Coop de Ville
August 2, 2006, 11:39 AM
Spyderco Ronin.

Best -Coop

Fosbery
August 2, 2006, 11:45 AM
That's a beautiful blade JTW, but lose the paracord handle :P

orangeninja
August 2, 2006, 12:49 PM
Well this thread inspired me. I just bought a CRKT First Strike 4 inch blade.....it rocks, very sturdy feel.

I also bought the new Kobun from Cold Steel 5 1/2 inch tanto using AUS8 Steel......haven't recived it yet.

For a neck knife I bought a Cold Steel the Spike with tanto point, 4 inch blade.

All legal in Texas, all very hazardous to a bad guy's health.....the Spike looks especially nasty.

Dirty Bob
August 2, 2006, 03:28 PM
Congrats on some good choices. I suggest that you work with each, to make sure that you can manipulate it quickly and safely under stress, especially the Spike. I love the looks and design of the Spike, but the hilt doesn't fit my hands well.

With inexpensive knives, I think it's worthwhile to buy a 2nd one and grind/file off the edge and point to make a practice blade. This gives you something safer to practice with (you still need to be careful).

Use them in good health!
Dirty Bob

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