Who's shootin' a "tactical .30-'06"?


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Buckskinner
May 9, 2006, 03:36 PM
I see all the LTR's, PSS's, etc., but I want to see "tactical" long range precision rifles in .30''06.

And your Model 1903 doesn't count!;)

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Freddymac
May 9, 2006, 04:22 PM
About 4 years ago in a state far, far away... Ok enough with the cheesy references. But seriously, I used to shoot a Modified Rem mod 700 in 30-06 with the whole "designated marksman", borderline mall-ninja, deal going on. It was a great rifle. Accurate as hell, 3 shot clover leafs of the .5 moa were the norm with hand loads. And that was with me shooting it, who knows what someone with a good pair of eyes could do. But then I got a bad case of "magnumtitus", sold the '06 for a 300 win mag of similar persuasion, shot it for a summer and then traded it and some $, well a little more than some $, for a Sako TRG 22, and never looked back. That is more the rifle than the cartridge, though. I still love the 30-06, but now relegate it to hunting.

Vern Humphrey
May 9, 2006, 04:52 PM
And your Model 1903 doesn't count!

How about my M1?:neener:

ID_shooting
May 9, 2006, 05:07 PM
I love the flexablity of 30-06 and really wished somone made a bolt action heavy barreled version. I would buy one NOW! After much searching, the only one I found that wasn't a custom build was a TC Encore.

You find a maker, let me know.

MechAg94
May 9, 2006, 05:31 PM
I have an M1 Garand with a sling and a 10" bayonet. For an M1, you might have to count ammo bandoliers as accessories. Might need to get a 3-point sling. :)

The best would be a BAR with bipod and stuff. As long as I didn't have to carry it very far.

I hate to ask, but does anyone make a tacticool synthetic stock for a Garand?

I guess you are looking for long range stuff though. Oh well.

Buckskinner
May 9, 2006, 05:32 PM
that's my choice too, especially after I stuck a scout mount and burris scout scope on it.

but I mean for long range, mildot reticle type stuff. snipercountry.com stuff...

as far as heavy barrel, I'm pretty sure any smith worth their salt can put a heavy barrel together for me. considering doing that on a bubba'd '03 action, but I'd want to go .338-'06 if I rebarreled...

648E
May 9, 2006, 07:30 PM
Not very tactical but that's what the 10/22 is for!

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c55/M855/Jan06086.jpg

Longbow
May 9, 2006, 07:57 PM
I love the flexablity of 30-06 and really wished somone made a bolt action heavy barreled version. I would buy one NOW! After much searching, the only one I found that wasn't a custom build was a TC Encore.

You find a maker, let me know.

Savage?

EDITED: Nope! They don't make one. :(

mustanger98
May 9, 2006, 08:28 PM
As I understand it, Ramline makes one and DPMS used to.

I've seen some T26 ("Tanker") builds that included a picatinny rail in place of the rear handguard for forward mounting of scopes and red-dots and Eotechs and such. While I wouldn't mind a T26 build- depending on the smith's abilities and knowledge- I wouldn't do the picatinny rail thing. That's just me.

I'd just get one of the woodless Danes from CMP and drop it into a Ramline. Ahhh, I might put on a picatinny in place of the Ramline's rear handguard, but it's not my first thought.

kennyboy
May 9, 2006, 08:50 PM
Winchester makes a heavy barreled .30-06.

bernie
May 9, 2006, 10:14 PM
I did not think Winchester was making much of anything anymore.

ID_shooting
May 9, 2006, 10:49 PM
"Winchester makes a heavy barreled .30-06."

Got a link? I just looked through their site and didn't see one.

MachIVshooter
May 9, 2006, 11:26 PM
I have a parkerized 700 ADL dressed in a Chaote ultimate sniper stock with a 3-9x 40mm mil-dot and a stubby harris bi-pod. I took the trigger down to 1 lb. 9 oz. It is quite accurate and pleasant to shoot prone, considering the sporting weight barrel. The Choate stock did add some weight to the package.

USSR
May 10, 2006, 09:32 AM
Buckskinner,

About 6 years ago, I had Jack Krieger build me a LR Tactical Rifle in .30-06. I basically sent all the parts to Jack, and had him chamber and install one of his fine barrels, as well as pillar bed the stock. I had him return the rifle to me "in the white", and I applied the baked-on teflon/moly finish myself. Here is what the rifle consists of:

Winchester M70 pushfeed action
26" SS Krieger fluted #10 MTU contour barrel
McMillan A-2 stock
Williams one-piece steel bottom metal
Jewell trigger
Tubbs Speed Lock firing pin & spring
Badger 20MOA base and rings
Leupold 6.5-20x50 M1 mildot scope

My present load consists of:

Lapua brass
Fed 210M primer
Sierra 190gr Matchking bullet
60.7gr RL22 powder
velocity of 2875fps
takes 30MOA to reach 1k

http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages3/ussr/Win06t1.jpg

Don

Buckskinner
May 10, 2006, 11:29 AM
Nice set up...
Was that a classic M70 or pre-64 action, and why choose that action?

My Sendero was similar, but shot a 190gr projectile over 72gr RL22, which gives you about 100 rounds per lb/powder.

61 grs fill up a case? Do you use filler?

ID_shooting
May 10, 2006, 12:03 PM
Sure, having a custom cun is easy, but would prefer a factory heavy barrel gun. It is my recolection that Savage did build one at one time. If somone had one, I would swap my sporter weight Winchester 30-06 in a heartbeat.

USSR
May 10, 2006, 12:51 PM
Buckskinner,

That action is a post-64 pushfeed long action. I build all my rifles on Winchester actions. I like the feel of the M70, and the stiffness of the receivers is a plus. I also have a LR 6.5x55 built on the Classic CRF M70 action for F Class competition. Yes, 61.0gr of RL22 is all that the Lapua case will hold, but it gives you similar velocities to a .300WM with 72.0gr. I don't use a filler tube. I weigh each charge and then pour it into the case from the scale tray using a funnel.

Don

Richard.Howe
May 10, 2006, 01:57 PM
Got a link? I just looked through their site and didn't see one.

It's called the Stealth. The original Stealth uses an HS Precision stock, the Stealth II uses a Bell & Carlson. My preference is for the HSP stock.

I love my Stealth -- with it's measured 0.3 MOA on Federal GM 168 MKs.

Check out examples here:

http://www.snipercentral.com/stealth.htm
http://www.winchesterguns.com/prodinfo/catalog/detail.asp?cat_id=535&type_id=955&cat=001C
http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2000/2042.htm

Freddymac
May 10, 2006, 02:20 PM
she is pretty. That is a beautiful piece of hardware. Now you got my wheels turning... DAMN, now I want another one.

USSR
May 10, 2006, 02:30 PM
Thanks. Unfortunately, about the only way you will get a .30-06 Tactical Rifle these days is to go the custom built route. On the other hand, you get EXACTLY what you want.

Don

ID_shooting
May 10, 2006, 02:46 PM
"It's called the Stealth."

Is all fine and dandy except one minor issue, they do not come in 30-06 :rolleyes:

itgoesboom
May 10, 2006, 02:48 PM
Who's shootin' a "tactical .30-'06"?
I see all the LTR's, PSS's, etc., but I want to see "tactical" long range precision rifles in .30''06.

And your Model 1903 doesn't count!

Don't know if I would call it a "tactical" .30-06, but my current project is my (budget)"Precision hunting rifle" in .30-06. I can't afford a true custom rifle, so I am doing all the work myself. Close enough. Shoots extremely well with 180gr Sierra Gamekings, well under 1", when I do things right. That means the shooter is the weak link, and causing most groups to go over 1" due to called flyers from flinching. Range report can be seen HERE (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=196414&highlight=vanguard) .

Scope is a Leupold VXII 3-9x40 with M1 adjustments, courtesy of Leupold's Custom Shop. Photos can be seen HERE (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=199079&highlight=leupold).

Now I am waiting for my new stock to come in. It's a Boyd's Ross Thumbhole in Pepper Laminate. The Stock (http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/Images/Parts/400-070.jpg)

After I get the stock, I will glass bed the action, float the barrel, and mount the scope. A timney trigger will go on as well, when $$$ becomes available. Also have a bipod ready to go on it as well. Should be a sweet shooter when I am done.

I.G.B.

Detritus
May 10, 2006, 03:04 PM
Ok savage doesn't make a 112FV or 112BVSS in 30-06 anymore, but ANY 110 action (savage long action) can be coverted to 30-06 (base rifle + new barrel etc) for less than what many factory models are going for now, and i'm not talking about high end guns either.

if you start with a long action in a caliber using teh same bolt face as the 30-06 (25-06 for an obvious example) all you need are a 30-06 barrel and a barrel nut wrench from sharpshooter's supply (http://www.savageshooters.net/sharpshooters/) and maybe a new stock if the old one can't be inletted for the larger barrel.

mustanger98
May 10, 2006, 03:21 PM
Now, if I'm talking about a custom .30-06 bolt gun as a tactical or long range deal, while I like Model 70's I figure a K98 Mauser action would be more affordable and some of those are said to be better than others and do quite well as custom builds.

So, I'd say take a K98 action from either Oberndorf or JP Sauer and barrel with a medium to heavy 20-22"er. My thinking is use the same twist rate as an M1 Garand or '03A3. (But then, why not just use an '03A3 action and barrel? I consider that a good option too provided the receiver's already been separated from a working rifle and all the parts are handy.) In the Mauser's case, I'd say drop it into a Bell&Carlson just because I like the looks of those, but I don't discount HS Precission either.

I know everybody on here's gonna say "glass it", but mostly me and scopes don't get along too well. Therefore, I say Williams FP/TK and 17A. If I'm dealing with a custom '03/'03A3, Lyman #48 and 17A.

This is all just me and my own personal taste. I know a lot of folks think irons are only good to 100yds, but they tend to get fooled sooner or later. I go back to the Marines at Bellue Wood making one-shot kills to 750yds with their issue '03's. If somebody knows how to make it work...

smince
May 10, 2006, 07:21 PM
And your Model 1903 doesn't count

Not even this 1903?

Richard.Howe
May 10, 2006, 08:12 PM
Is all fine and dandy except one minor issue, they do not come in 30-06 :rolleyes:

Rolling eyes notwithstanding, I do own and operate a real live .30-06 Stealth. I am afraid I am the exception that disproves the rule... :D

Rich

Cpl Punishment
May 10, 2006, 08:12 PM
To me, "tactical .30-06" will always be an M1 Garand.

but I mean for long range, mildot reticle type stuff. snipercountry.com stuff...
OK, an M1D with a modern mildot scope. . .:neener:


Oh and guys are talking about "heavy barreled Winchester Stealth in .30-06".
Winchester's "heavy" barrel '06 was the Black Shadow. It's a heavier-profile barrel than normal, but not as heavy as the one on the Stealth.

smince
May 10, 2006, 10:32 PM
How about this 30.06?

I have the Ramline. Bell & Carlson makes (made?) one, advertised in Brownell's, but it is around $200.00.

Andras
May 10, 2006, 10:34 PM
I have a Remington 742 with an Aimpoint 1000 mounted on it, plus a couple extended (10 round) magazines!

I'm so tactical!

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