How does a Barami Hip-grip work?
ChristopherG
April 25, 2003, 05:53 PM
In the never-ending quest to mess around with gun-stuff, and buy more junk, I'm thinking about getting a Barami hip-grip for my J-frame.
Can any of you Barami enthusiasts possibly post a picture of how it hangs in your waistband? Please don't be bashful; I've got lovehandles too.
And, while I'm at it, let me ask this: how does that hook sticking out affect your grip on your revolver? Can you wrap your hand good and tight and high around the gun? Does it have any affect on your accuracy or control with the little beast (or perhaps yours isn't a beast; mine's a 340).
thanks a million
CG
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ftw46
April 25, 2003, 06:19 PM
http://www.baramihipgrip.com/hipgrip.html
This is a link to the page with some pictures. I carried a S&W 37 this way for many years. I carried in the appendix or about 1:30 position.
I have small hands and I never had any problem getting a grip or even controlling the weapon while firing. It never offered to slip and I found it very secure. Your hand does not come close to the hook and you grip it normally.
I really enjoyed the ease of carrying without the hassle of a holster and it concealed very well with even shorts and a T shirt.
A friend finally pleaded me out of the gun but I kept the grip!
I don't really have love handles but it would be no worse,and probably better,than carrying in a holster.
I hope I told you something that will help.:)
snubby
April 25, 2003, 06:51 PM
I've never used a Barami, but I do have a Clipdraw on my S&W 340 PD, which works well and is pretty "minimalist" when it comes to concealed carry.
http://www.clipdraw.com
JCM298
April 25, 2003, 07:28 PM
I've got both. The first time I tried the Barami, the 649 fell out, as I was getting out of my car, and it hit the asphalt. It took hours to polish the scratches on the cylinder. I immediately took them off & haven't used them since.
The Clipdraw worked very well but I had to take it off when I put on the Crimson Trace grips. The laser reflected off the clip.
I prefer the Clipdraw,
John
ChristopherG
April 25, 2003, 08:33 PM
Hey, I appreciate the feedback, and especially being made aware of the clipdraw, which I'd never heard of. Any more experiences out there with either of these systems?
CG
dairycreek
April 25, 2003, 08:54 PM
and it is on my S&W 442. I have carried it on everything from jeans to sweats to bathing suits. Have absolutely never had a problem with it loostening or falling out - never!
As far as gripping or shooting it is pretty natural. I don't find it different than other kinds of grips. I recommend it highly as my go everywhere, anywhere gun combination. Good shooting;)
stephen_g22
August 11, 2003, 11:09 AM
sorry to revive this 4 months later...
I have been thinking about either the Clipdraw or the Barami Hip-Grip. In looking at the webpages it looks like the grip of the Barami Hip-Grip will ride lower than pistols utilizing Clipdraw.
The Barami seems like it would be closer to a "mexican" style carry than the Clipdraw.
The Clipdraw seems like the grip would ride just as high as using an IWB holster, so what's the advantage?
Then there is always the rubberband carry.
Thoughts?
ChristopherG
August 11, 2003, 01:24 PM
I (who started this thread 4 months back) did buy a Barami, and used it quite a bit.
The good: it is secure. More secure than the clip-draw, I would imagine (though I have no experience with the latter), and while it does resemble mexican carry, the trigger guard is kept quite firmly behind the belt. By putting the cylinder below the beltline, it makes for extremely discrete concealment. Nothing but that tiny black plastic handle sticking up. I would still be using it all the time if it weren't for--
The bad: it is tiny, smooth, and plastic. With my J-frame, a lightweight 357, I had to conclude after a few range trips that I simply required more handle on my gun for adequate trigger control and recoil control. So I'm not using mine, but I might well be if I were shooting, e.g., standard .38s instead of moderately-loaded .357s.
If you'd like to try them out, I'd be happy to let you have mine for just a few bucks. It's a cheap experiment, at any rate. Let me know--
CG
Dingo
August 11, 2003, 01:59 PM
I didn't like the black Barami's smooth plastic shine so I gave them a steel wool rubdown. This dulled them to where they resemble ebony (from a distance, of course). Breaking up the shiny surface seems to make them feel better in the hand too.
Also, I have some white Barami's that look really ugly. Roughed them up with steel wool and slobbered Feiblings dark brown leather dye on them and now they at least resemble light grain wood (again, from a distance). This plastic seems more porous than the stuff used for foux ivory and the dye penetrated more than I expected.
scbair
August 11, 2003, 02:32 PM
I have an old set for a J frame. I added a Tyler T-Grip adapter, and it made for a great improvement in "gripability" (just as it did for the original "magna" stocks). I don't like the smooth surface, though, and that's why I retired them. I read somewhere that the tip of a soldering iron can be used to "stipple" them, for an improved gripping service. Since I'm not using them, anyway, I think I'll give that a try.
SnWnMe
August 11, 2003, 04:17 PM
A friend of mine has both Hip Grip and Clipdraw. The Hip Grip does allow the gun to ride lower on your person. I considered the Clipdraw but from the phtotos on the web it looked like it could interfere with the cylinder rotation (it rides next to it). The Hip Grip "grip" feels just like any of the old style magna stocks. Not much of a purchase in other words. You'll notice this in the range. I doubt that you'll care when it comes time for more practical applications.
JCM298
August 11, 2003, 07:48 PM
The Clipdraw does not contact the cylinder and does not hinder operation.
Re-loads take getting used to but are not really a problem.
John
Voodoo
August 12, 2003, 01:40 AM
Please check your PMs! :)
omega5
September 6, 2003, 09:23 PM
I don't have a pic of mine, but as to how it works, Very well!. I use it on a S&W model 38 AirWeight. It's my summertime shorts and t-shirt carry. That and a couple Binachi Speed Strips loaded with NiClads, a Kershaw Ken Onion Blackout and I'm ready for anytype activety one would do in shorts and t-shirt. For anything else, I carry a 1911 or Defender. If you use one of those elastic type belts, it works even better. The belt fits bewteen the cylinder and the grip and holds real well. You have to pull forward and up for a clean draw.
I like mine.
bubbygator
September 7, 2003, 11:04 PM
I used to carry a 640 with HipGrips. To counter their "smallness", I added the Tyler T-mount - OK. But still the Barami stock material was too slippery. I finally wrapped the whole grip with gauze tennis-grip tape. Worked like a charm; though sticky to the hand, most shirt materials would just slide over it without "catching". Concealed easy, yet presented a sure hold. Finally sold the gun when I retired. But I'm currently in the process of fixing up a 442.
snubbie
September 6, 2006, 11:22 AM
I have a taurus 85 that i'd like to get hip grips for. Is this there a tyler t grip for a taurus?:confused:
Bqnestle
September 6, 2006, 05:22 PM
Here's my carry gun, M37 with a Hip grip, Tyler T adapter and a Hogue Handall Jr.
sorry for the horrid picture.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/bqnestle/m37.jpg
isp2605
September 6, 2006, 08:39 PM
Can any of you Barami enthusiasts possibly post a picture of how it hangs in your waistband?
Since I can't wear it and take a decent pix of it at the same time, here's what shows when you are wearing a Barami on a J frame S&W 49
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c125/ispcapt/guns/BARAMI.jpg
how does that hook sticking out affect your grip on your revolver?
You'll notice it rubs a bit on your trigger finger. Nothing bad, just will feel it there for a while. Doesn't affect grip or handling. It has no impact on accuracy. It's nice for carrying because the smooth plastic does not print or stick to material.
symr00
September 7, 2006, 01:36 AM
I have a taurus 85 that i'd like to get hip grips for. Is this there a tyler t grip for a taurus?
Yes, they are listed on their website. Seems like most folks here have the S&W Clipdraw. I use the Universal Revolver model and it allows the revolver to rest lower in your waistband. The clip is in about the same spot as the Barami clip is.
TSH77769
September 7, 2006, 03:46 AM
I have both the clip draw and the hip grip. I strongly prefer the hip grip. The clip draw can drag on the cylinder making it harder to pull the trigger and rotate the cylinder (and scratches it). It also sits the gun too high and the gun would often wiggle up and work free. It even fell out a few times. So I stopped using the thing. I do not recommend the clip draw.
I am very pleased with the hip grip in general. It is very secure as th scylinder sits bleow your belt and serves to acnhor the gun. I offer the following criticisms. The hip grip does not allow for any other grips at all. The best you can do is a tyler T-grip adapter and a slip over grip, both of which I recommend. The hip grip by itself is very small and narrow and accentuates recoil compared to other grips, it is also very slick, too slick. The T-grip and slip over grip do help with this, but still. Another improvement is to put a bit of silicone rubber or the like on the ledge where it sits on top of your waistband and the part that rides outside your waistband. This helps further secure the gun and absolutely prevents lateral movement whatosever. This is not a problem to begin with really but it definitely will never ever be a problem after this.
I strongly recommend the hip grip.
Tsh77769
Sistema1927
September 7, 2006, 09:46 AM
Have any lefties used a Barami hip-grip for 6 o'clock carry?
I have a 1980's vintage square butt 37 that never gets out of the gun safe. I just ordered a Barami from Midway, and will try it out, but I wonder if other left handers have any experience with this method.
isp2605
September 7, 2006, 09:49 AM
I have both the clip draw and the hip grip. I strongly prefer the hip grip. The clip draw can drag on the cylinder making it harder to pull the trigger and rotate the cylinder (and scratches it). It also sits the gun too high and the gun would often wiggle up and work free. It even fell out a few times. So I stopped using the thing. I do not recommend the clip draw.
TSH77769 is correct. I quit using my clip draw for the reason explained above. It rides too high and the gun works out. I've used clipdraw (back when it was known as Browne & Pharr) on a 1911 and it worked well but on the 2" J frames the gun rides too high. The Bararmi, even with the problems mentioned by TSH77769 still carries better than the Clipdraw.
Sixguncowboy
May 9, 2009, 07:50 PM
:confused:I have used a Barami Hip Grip on a Colt Det. Spc. for over 30 years and never had a single problem with it. But now I'm going to have to get a new set. I gave them to a fellow to Duracoat them in desert sand color because the black ones will show under some white or light color shirts. I got them back and they looked great.......................till I went to put them on the gun, then I found that they were cracked, warped & shrunk. :cuss: Don't ever do that. Just leave them the color they came from the factory. Which fortunately, an off white is available now.
I also have a Clipdraw on my Kimber Ultra CDP which I like. And yesterday I ordered the Universal Clipdraw for my Taurus PT 145. http://www.clipdraw.com/store/index.php?rn=395&action=show_detail
The key to carrying any gun with a hip grip or Clipdraw is to wear a belt & make sure it's snug. For those who want to carry a revolver with a Clipdraw I would recommend the Universal RV clip. It's made differently than the standard revolver Clipdraw & won't drag on the cylinder.
The Lone Haranguer
May 10, 2009, 06:18 PM
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eagleno49
May 10, 2009, 09:34 PM
Does anyone have any pics of the hip grip on themselves? I just wish they made a boot grip with this feature.
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