Happy 10FP Owner!! (Pic intensive)


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Falconeer
May 12, 2006, 10:57 PM
Hay there folks!
Finally had the opportunity to spend some quality time with my Savage 10FP Wednesday. This is only the 2nd time I've had the rifle out, and finally was able to finish sighting in. Check it out!
First, the obligatory beauty shot:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/gentlemanfalc/10FP/10FP_CombRight.jpg

100 yards, LC91 brass, 44grn Varget, 150grn Spitzer bullet

I'm still working on trigger pull...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/gentlemanfalc/10FP/20060510_Target0002.jpg

That's the one!!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/gentlemanfalc/10FP/20060510_Target0001.jpg

Considering I now have a total of 90 rounds through this rifle, I'm pretty darn happy. :) When I do my part, she's down right SWEET!

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bcominos
May 13, 2006, 10:25 AM
I have become extremely fond of my Savage 10FP .308 as well! I put her in a choate ultimate varmint stock, threw some TPS/TSR rings & bases on her, dropped in my Leupold 4.5x14 x 50mm, and have been shooting 3/4" at 200 ever since! She only has a 20" barrel, which limits her real long range capabilities... so when this barrel is shot out i'll throw on a longer one. That's one of the real sweet things about these, you can change the barrel yourself! The Accutrigger is also sweet! Savage is coming up!! Especially for the price range!

brianc
May 13, 2006, 02:49 PM
The Fp's are great rifle's!!!! Love mine ( pre accutrigger ) .3 Moa at 200yds. LC brass 41.0gr IMR4064 and 168gr. Sierra matchkings. I have done alot to the rifle, But nothing that most anyone can do! Scope is a Redfield golden 5star 4-12X40 w/target turrets. A great underrated scope!

bcominos
May 13, 2006, 02:54 PM
I like that subtle camo job on the stock!:cool: You really can't beat these... accurate, fun, and affordable! I need to take some pics of mine...

Don't Tread On Me
May 13, 2006, 05:27 PM
Nice rig there Falcon. That is precisely the set up I've got in mind for a sub $1,000 "sniper" rifle. Everything on that rifle is the price performance king.


Nice groups too. Are those typical, or best of the day type groups?

MDG1976
May 13, 2006, 09:13 PM
I love mine.

MagnumCaliber357
May 13, 2006, 09:21 PM
:D TACK DRIVER!! Very nice purchase. how much do these run?

Falconeer
May 13, 2006, 09:51 PM
Nice groups too. Are those typical, or best of the day type groups?Those are best of day, but the others were similar. The less than optimal :p groups were definitely my fault.

TACK DRIVER!! Very nice purchase. how much do these run?Wal-Mart (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=2684972) sells the 10FP for $517; you can find cheaper. The Super Sniper (http://www.riflescopes.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SS10X42M) is $400 from SWFA; the model without the side focus is $100 cheaper. Ken Farrell 20 MOA base (http://www.kenfarrell.com/SAV-RTS-1-20.html) was $72.80; the Ken Farrell standard 30mm rings (http://www.kenfarrell.com/0030MM-STD-ALB.html) were $142.50. I could have gone cheaper on the rings, but I spent a good 45 minutes to an hour on the phone with Ken himself asking questions. He was very helpful with choices and advice so it was worth every penny. Here's a detail shot:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/gentlemanfalc/10FP/10FP_Mount.jpg

The Beartooth Comb Raising kit (cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0010018223766a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=beartooth+comb&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=beartooth+comb&noImage=0) is $18 from Cabelas. I found the Harris LMS bipod (http://cgi.ebay.com/Harris-Series-S-9-13-Bipod-NEW-Model-LM_W0QQitemZ7240416503QQcategoryZ73959QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) on eBay for $80 + s&h. I reload my own ammo.

My next upgrade will probably be a Bell & Carlson Medalist Varmint/Target/Tactical stock (http://bellandcarlson.com/newproducts.html). That's about $200. Then find someone locally to bed it. With that the rifle should be capable of shooting as well as I am for a while to come. :)

chrisTx
May 13, 2006, 11:46 PM
get a wood stock. they're prettier. :)

this is a crappy cell phone pic. you should see it in person.

http://i1.tinypic.com/zmdtnr.jpg

Falconeer
May 13, 2006, 11:56 PM
chrisTx: Very nice, but definitely a preference thing. I prefer the look of synthetic. :)

Hoploholic
May 14, 2006, 10:38 AM
Nice rifles...one and all. I like Savages, they need a little work to get there but that is part of the fun. They have the best darned factory barrels going.

As far as wood stocks go, have you ever tried to butt strike someone with plastic? Go wood FTW. :evil:

Falconeer
May 14, 2006, 05:19 PM
As far as wood stocks go, have you ever tried to butt strike someone with plastic? Go wood FTW.That's P229 range!! :p

flatdog
May 14, 2006, 06:05 PM
Falconeer,

I've got a 110 (Long Action) setup similar to yours and know how well they shoot.

So quit horsin' around... center punch the dime and post the photos:D

MJ
May 15, 2006, 12:06 AM
Don't tell everyone!:uhoh: :uhoh:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/3d49e086.jpg

:rolleyes: MJ:rolleyes:

rangerruck
May 15, 2006, 12:48 AM
savage... for those who know about out of the box, under 500 bucks.

gearbox
May 15, 2006, 03:10 PM
Falconeer, when you get a Medalist/Tactical/Varmint stock from B&C takes some photos and let me know what you think. I'm torn between it and the Savage Shooters Stock Varmint/Tactical.
Those are some damn nice groups. I hope my 12BVSS will print like that :) I've only sighted it in, but it did well at 109 with XM118LR. What were you shooting?

Falconeer
May 15, 2006, 03:46 PM
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Falconeer
May 15, 2006, 03:51 PM
gearbox: Definitely plan to. :) I've looked at the SS but the extra cost makes it difficult, and I believe the Medalist has a higher comb. As you can see from my first pic, the scope is fairly high up off the barrel. The Ken Farrell rings are hefty. :p

My rounds are Lake City 91 brass from GI Brass (http://gibrass.com/brass.html) that I full length resized, trimmed, and chamfured (sp?). I'll be neck sizing them once I go through all of the brass once. 44grn of Varget, Winchester large rifle primers, and Remmington 150grn core-lokt spitzer bullets (were on special at MidwayUSA).

When I use up the 150 grn bullets, I have a thousand Speer 180grn Spitzer bullets that I'm going to use for my development load. The Bullet Guy (https://thebulletguy.com/displayProductDocument.hg?productId=172&categoryId=22) is selling off the last of a Speer overrun at good prices. :)

MJ: :p Better buy a couple more before the price goes up! :p

flatdog: That would be something to see! :p

bcominos
May 15, 2006, 07:01 PM
One Is MINE!!!:neener: Savage 10FP .308, 20" Barrel, Choate Ultimate Varmint stock, TPS/TSR rings & 20 moa base, Leupold 4.5x14x50mm on top... LOVE IT!

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j43/bcominos/DVC00029.jpg

Last outing, shooting M118, = 3/4" @ 250 yards... off of bibod.. need to do some work on the bipod/mounting rail setup... That and putting a bigger bolt handle/knob on it are the only short range plans.... when this barrel is done, definitely want to go with a longer (24-26") one.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j43/bcominos/DVC00027.jpg

This is my "new to me" M700 Sendero in .300 win mag, HS Precision stock, Answer muzzle brake & pad, Burris Signature 8x32 in BO base & rings. Haven't gotten to play with her yet, can't wait!

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j43/bcominos/DVC00031.jpg

And... my Busmaster XM15E2S, 20", w/ ARMS SIR rail/freefloat system, ARMS #40L BUIS, and cheapo aimpoint wanna-be! (Hey, it is worth the $50 I paid for it!)

Bill

rockstar.esq
May 15, 2006, 08:04 PM
I have a savage 10FP -LE2 (26in barrel) that has grouped five into .219" at 100. I practice by hitting clay pidgeons laid on the ground at ranges up to 400yds!


"My next upgrade will probably be a Bell & Carlson Medalist Varmint/Target/Tactical stock. That's about $200. Then find someone locally to bed it. "

Got to say that the manufacturer states it's intended to be free floated, bedding might be a bad call. From what I understand most Remingtons are bedded with forend tip pressure and most get more accurate once free floated. Part of Savage's unique design is the pillar bedded free float barrel which as we all agree results in a very accurate rifle out of the box. I'm curious what the objective diameter is on your scope because it looks like your scope is way up there compared to my IOR 2.5-10x44.

bcominos
May 15, 2006, 09:05 PM
The medalist is only $200? Is that finished/painted? Thanks! (the obj on my Leupy = 50mm, on the Burris = 44mm... never used a Burris before... any comments/thoughts/tips/tricks? Thanks!

Bill

Falconeer
May 15, 2006, 09:24 PM
bcominos: Nice stuff! I may get myself a 'black rifle' one day, but I'll probably hold out for a Sig 556. :p Have to be different!

Got to say that the manufacturer states it's intended to be free floated, bedding might be a bad call. From what I understand most Remingtons are bedded with forend tip pressure and most get more accurate once free floated. Part of Savage's unique design is the pillar bedded free float barrel which as we all agree results in a very accurate rifle out of the box. I'm curious what the objective diameter is on your scope because it looks like your scope is way up there compared to my IOR 2.5-10x44.Does the pillar bedding mean it doesn't need to be 'bedded'? I thought the bedding (fiberglass, etc) was a continued improvement.

The Super Sniper (http://www.riflescopes.com/departments/231/rifle_scopes/super_sniper_rifle_scopes.htm) is a 42mm objective.

The medalist is only $200? Is that finished/painted? Thanks! Correct. Here's a link (http://www.lockstock.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BEL2999). I don't know what the turn around time on them is, but you can get it in the standard black for $198.95. More if you want different colors/textures. :)

bcominos
May 15, 2006, 09:27 PM
One of the selling points of these Savages is the ease in changing the barrel. It can be done at home instead of having to send it to a smith. What are the drawbacks/cons of this???

PS- anyone looking to part with a McMillan A5 for my M700 Sedero with the long action? There's a 20 week wait right now! Thanks!

Also have the original Savage stock for the 10FP accutrigger if anyone is looking for one! And a set of Leupold rings & bases for the 10FP short action I'm looking to sell/trade...

Thanks!

Bill

bcominos
May 15, 2006, 09:29 PM
Thanks Falconeer!

flatdog
May 16, 2006, 12:16 AM
rockstar.esq wrote:

I have a savage 10FP -LE2 (26in barrel) that has grouped five into .219" at 100. I practice by hitting clay pidgeons laid on the ground at ranges up to 400yds!

When you get tired of pigeons move back to 500 and use batus. That ought to pep you up some.:evil:

Interesting place:

http://www.savageshooters.net/

Farnham
May 16, 2006, 01:05 AM
http://www.hunt101.com/img/346432.jpg (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=346432&c=545&z=1)

http://www.hunt101.com/img/391379.jpg (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=391379&c=500&z=1)

Love them Savages.

S/F

Farnham

yci
May 17, 2006, 02:48 PM
Correct. Here's a link. I don't know what the turn around time on them is, but you can get it in the standard black for $198.95. More if you want different colors/textures.

For what it's worth, I ordered one of those from Lock, Stock, & Barrel at the end of April. I was quoted 6-8 weeks for delivery for the standard black stock.

Falconeer
May 17, 2006, 03:14 PM
For what it's worth, I ordered one of those from Lock, Stock, & Barrel at the end of April. I was quoted 6-8 weeks for delivery for the standard black stock.Thanks kindly for the info! Be sure to let us know when you get it, post pics, and how it works out. :p

Thanks Falconeer!No problem at all! :)

Jeff
May 20, 2006, 09:26 AM
I'm going to get one of these!

I had my heart set on a Remington 700 LTR, but for $300 more, what's the point?

I like the things I've always heard about Savages. What rings and mounts does one recommend? I'll be doing mostly hunting with it, but some long-distance shooting as well.

Lastly, should I put that $300 I saved towards a something like CZ P01? :D

YodaVader
May 20, 2006, 12:19 PM
I had my heart set on a Remington 700 LTR, but for $300 more, what's the point?


No knock on the Savage , especially the way they shoot:eek: but any rifle equipped standard with the HS stock (about $250 mail order) is going to be far more expensive than a similar rifle equipped with a plain plastic stock.

I see in the Savage catalog a model with the HS stock but have never seen one in any gun store or gun show. If you compare that model to a 700LTR or 700P the price difference should be far less than $300.

Sorry, not trying to start a flame against Savage - in fact I am seriously considering Savage as my next rifle!

If I go with Savage it will probably be one of the stainless laminated stock VBSS , VLP or possibly the new Long Range Precision Varminter with HS stock.

bcominos
May 20, 2006, 01:00 PM
I've got a set of Leupold rings & bases for a 10fp SA, mint condition, I can let go pretty cheap... I went to TPS/TSR rings & base, Farrel & Badger would be great choices as well! Good luck! You're gonna love it!

Falconeer
May 21, 2006, 12:15 AM
I like the things I've always heard about Savages. What rings and mounts does one recommend? I'll be doing mostly hunting with it, but some long-distance shooting as well.I have Ken Farrell (http://www.kenfarrell.com/) base and rings on my 10FP and have been very happy with them. Plus Ken is a great guy; he's more than willing to talk on the phone and make sure you get exactly what you want.

Jeff
May 21, 2006, 02:23 PM
Thanks, Falconeer. That's good to know.

jlmurphy
May 21, 2006, 04:03 PM
The secret to Savage accuracy is the pinned bolt head, it can pivot just enough to guarantee the lugs always maintain good contact. Most bolt guns have enough slop in the rear of the bolt that the force of the trigger sear pushes the rear of the bolt body up when cocked, that means the upper bolt lug is forced away from the action lug, when fired the bolt slams back and down, causing enormous flexing and vibration. Benchrest actions have tighter tolerances that prevent this.

Gewehr98
May 21, 2006, 07:10 PM
I've actually witnessed the bolt head retaining pins fail on two separate occasions in the Savage 110/10 series of rifles. One was chambered for a belted magnum, so it used the magnum bolt head. The other was a .308. Savage appears to have come up with a fix to the problem:

http://www.steyrscout.org/savscout.htm

Falconeer
May 22, 2006, 08:39 AM
Jeff: Glad I could help!

Gewehr98: Thanks for the head's up. Looks like I need to pick up an extra pin for my bag. :)

Lennyjoe
May 22, 2006, 01:32 PM
Though not a 10FP, how about a lefty 12FLV in 22-250:D

(BTW, the rifle is for sale if anyone is interested;) )

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid206/p3374216728ad9d71fcf2668a07c66f51/eeed5976.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid206/pd2c7c599616ffb4089899cbc63d0f31e/eeed5975.jpg

yci
May 26, 2006, 11:50 AM
Originally Posted by yci
For what it's worth, I ordered one of those from Lock, Stock, & Barrel at the end of April. I was quoted 6-8 weeks for delivery for the standard black stock.

Thanks kindly for the info! Be sure to let us know when you get it, post pics, and how it works out.

The stock I ordered at the end of April arrived via UPS yesterday evening, 25 May. I believe I ordered it on 24 April. So a little over 4 weeks to get it.

bcominos
May 26, 2006, 05:39 PM
I'm thinking about picking one of these up too. Let us know what you think. Good luck & enjoy it!

Bill

yci
May 30, 2006, 11:51 AM
I'm thinking about picking one of these up too. Let us know what you think. Good luck & enjoy it!

Did not get the chace to take it out to the range this weekend, but did attempt to put the action/barrel into it.

I like the construction of it, seems well made, and has a decent looking recoil pad on it.

The review of the stock over on Sniper's Hide (http://www.snipershide.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=004841#000000) mentioned:

On my stock, the fiberglass was slightly deviated to one side in the barrel channel, forcing me to reshape the channel a bit to get the barrel centered.

<snip>

The barrel channel on mine needed some massaging before the barrel would float cleanly.

Knowing this going in, I wasn't too worried about it. When I put the stock on my gun, I noticed I had this issue. It's not quite centered, and there's about 1" of the barrel at the very end of the stock that is touching, otherwise it's floated everywhere else. I may be able to get it centered without much effort. I mainly just slapped it on when I had a few free minutes, fully intending to give it more careful attention before I take it out.

Aside from that, my only other minor complaint is that I am going to have to drill a hole for the rear screw that holds on my trigger guard. Not really a big deal, but just wasn't expecting to need to do that.

Overall, I am pleased with it so far.

Falconeer
May 30, 2006, 01:46 PM
yci: Keep us informed, if you please! :) Preferably with pics. Any chance you could take pics of the barrel channel and the screw hole, so we have an idea what we're looking at?

yci
May 31, 2006, 10:52 AM
Falconeer: No problem. I'll see what I can do regarding the pictures. Gotta find a good pic hosting place first.

Falconeer
June 7, 2006, 10:51 AM
D If all goes well, Fed-Ex should be delivering my B&C Medalist Varmint/Target/Tactical today!! Woot!! :D

Pics when it's put together.

Falconeer
June 7, 2006, 10:26 PM
FedEx came through and delivered the B&C VTT I ordered (I hit the wife up in a moment of weakness :p). I haven't had the rifle to the range yet (just finished installing the stock) but here are first impressions.

1) I LOVE the comb! It naturally lines my eye up perfectly with the scope now. It's like it was custom made!
2) The rear bolt on the stock is not a structural attachment, it just secures the trigger guard to the stock. There was no hole at the attachment block for the screw to fit into; I drilled a small pilot hole and it snugged right in. The original Savage screw has threads like a wood screw so it's probably by design.
3) The barrel channel needed to be sanded out a bit to ensure the barrel free floated. It wasn't much; I used 220 grit sandpaper wrapped around a piece of tube I had and just smoothed out the channel. Clean and free floats now (used a $20 instead of a $1 to test; inflation ya know :p).
4) In the pic of the Medalist stock you'll see what looks like a round dot on the stock. I didn't even notice it until I saw the pic. It's a small raised circle on the stock; it's not a bubble or weak spot (I tapped around and on top of the spot with not difference in sound). Just adds character I guess.
5) The stock is 'beefier' in the hands, but it does't seem to add much weight. There's a much more solid feel when cycling the action.
6) The palm area is MUCH more robust feeling in the hand. I like it much better than the original synthetic. It places my finger naturally on the sweet spot on the trigger rather than having to adjust around to get comfortable.
7) The Harris bipod has a concave rubber lined channel where it's designed to snug against the stock. As the bottom of the VTT is flat, it's contacting just on the edges. As it's rubber lined, I don't see it as being a problem. Attached and snugged down finger tight and it's solid.

All in all, I'm VERY happy with it. Without going to a $500 McMillan or $325 Savage Shooters Supply Super VarTac I don't think you can do much better (this cost me $209 with shipping). Can't WAIT to get out to see how it shoots. I have a box of 50 lovingly reloaded rounds just waiting! :)

Here's a pic:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/gentlemanfalc/10FP/10FP_Right_BCStock_01.jpg

Prior to that, I had a BearTooth comb kit on the rifle:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/gentlemanfalc/10FP/10FP_CombRight.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/gentlemanfalc/10FP/10FP_CombDetail.jpg

And with just the original stock:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/gentlemanfalc/10FP/10FP_Left.jpg

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