What caliber is your SHTF Rifle?


May 14, 2006, 05:46 PM
Just curious. Please feel free to post other info, etc.

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May 14, 2006, 05:50 PM
i have 2:

.223 AR-15
.308 long range AR-10

May 14, 2006, 05:52 PM
Wow, that was a quick response. I didn't even have the poll done yet. Thanks though. :)

May 14, 2006, 05:54 PM
.308 Win. in a FAL carbine! Short and powerful

May 14, 2006, 05:54 PM
Uh, edit it to remove the M43. 7.62x39 is the cartridge. M43 is one of the early (and crappy) projectile designs. Nearly everthing you can buy today is M67.

May 14, 2006, 05:56 PM
7.62X 51 Fal R1A1 Rifle
7.62x39 Romanian Ak47

In process now of getting rifles ready for SHTF (hurricane) season.


May 14, 2006, 05:57 PM
wow 7.62 is 50% others aways back hmmm:evil: :D

May 14, 2006, 05:59 PM
Yeah, good idea on removing the M43 part. I also should probably add .30 Carbine too.

Dumb question: I see where to edit the post. How do I edit the poll? Thanks.

May 14, 2006, 06:04 PM
I have a few:
12 Gauge
9mm Luger

May 14, 2006, 06:12 PM
.30 Carbine - M1 Carbine


May 14, 2006, 06:19 PM

May 14, 2006, 06:24 PM
Define SHTF.

If I have to run away from my house on foot, it is .223.

If I'm guarding the house, or I have a car to help transport, it is .308.

Pappy John
May 14, 2006, 06:31 PM
.308 for me, with a .30 carbine for SWMBO.

May 14, 2006, 06:37 PM

Quite, puts food in the pot, can carry 500rds without being burdened, etc....

Just Jim
May 14, 2006, 06:43 PM
What ever happens to be loaded at the moment the SHTF. I don't plan on some daring escape and your going to have to push hard to get me to leave all I have worked for my entire life. I won't leave my family and friends to save my sorry hide so a bug out kit is not high on my list.

However to fort up I have whatever I would need for the occasion:eek:


Dave in VA
May 14, 2006, 06:56 PM
30-06 (2 Garands) [my go to if SHTF], 308/7.62 Nato (PTR91, M1A Super Match), the wife's AR15 to provide covering fire.:evil:

May 14, 2006, 07:00 PM
ialso have 7.62x39 and 7.62x54 and an 8mm. id grab my ar first

Deer Hunter
May 14, 2006, 07:02 PM
As of now?

30-30 / 336
12 gauge / coach gun
.45 ACP / 625

As of in about a year?

10mm / G20
7.62 NATO / STG58
.357 mag / 627
9mm / CZ75 or 85

May 14, 2006, 07:13 PM
Presently 7.62x39, but no M43 for me. First off because steelcore is too expensive and second because its performance in soft tissue sucks. I like the effect series just fine, I mostly stock Uly 8m2 but 8m5 and 8m3 are great stuff when you can find it, the latter is probably the most effective commercially available round against soft targets.

7.62x39 has several distinct advantages where I live. The terrain here is built up, be it the city, swamp or woods. LOS is limited to a couple hundred yards, cover and concealment are plentiful. 7.62x39 has the power to punch through walls, car bodies, logs and bust through brush to reach enemies more reliably than lighter calibers such as 5.56x45 or 5.45x39, but it is significantly lighter than the 7.62x51 whose range advantage is not needed in my environment which makes it easier to carry. 7.62x39 has an additional advantage, it is large caliber and relatively low velocity... given the watery nature of a subtropical environment this eliminates much worry about goose egging or blowing up a barrel after getting water in the bore from heavy rain or a bad fording/swim.

For longer range or when I need more penetrating power I have Mosins chambered for 7.62x54r and plenty of steel core. AP and even explosive bullets are available for this cartridge.

I'd really love an AK chambered in 6.8spc or 6.5 Grendel. Throw on a sidefolding stock, lower handguard rail system and a rear sight/rail system such as www.scoutscopes.com sells and I believe it would qualify as a worldbeating HDR.

I definately see a role for an ultralightweight .22 revolving rifle, about the size and weight of a Cricket or Chipmunk but having a 5+ shot capacity and conversion cylinder to go from .22lr to .22mag. You could shoot anything from extremely quiet Super Colibri or CB Caps to potent .22 MaxiMag or other loads which would be a credible threat against man or beast. Such a rifle should have a folding stock for ultimate compactness, the extremely low weight of rifle and ammo would allow one to easily live out of a backpack and not want for ammunition. It seems like NAA could build something like this, or at least provide the cylinders.

May 14, 2006, 07:25 PM
Very interesting idea on the Ultralight rifle, R127. Might be a nice backpack gun; especially in the .22WMR chambering.

Yeah, forget the M43 part. Guess I hit the submit button before reviewing my post. Can't seem to find a way to correct it.


May 14, 2006, 07:27 PM
If I have to go on the move I'll take an AR with XM193 5.56 because it's the rifle I practice with the most and can shoot the most accurately with. Plus it's handy, light, shoots light ammo, it's a common caliber here in the US, it shoots pretty much right to POA to 200 yards. I voted for it because no matter where I am, an AR will be with me.

If I had to move in in a vehicle, along with the AR, the AK gets stashed in the vehicle because it's compact with the folding stock (a lesson I've read from reports from Iraq - many soldiers preferred the AK to the M16 inside vehicles).

If I was staying put and defending the homestead (the New Orleans scenario), one of the FALs or my Garand would be the go-to guns. I've got a half dozen mags full of 150gr. TAP. After that, it would be 7.62 NATO. I've got a lot more 7.62x51 on hand than 5.56 and 7.62x39, but I wouldn't want to be humping a FAL with four or five mags very far and those rifles are long and awkward.

May 14, 2006, 07:28 PM

May 14, 2006, 08:09 PM
I chose .308/7.62x51 for the M1As. I guess it all depends on how much fecal matter is hitting the occillating device. Couple "social work" 870s and 1911s round out the HD tools.

Revolver Justice
May 14, 2006, 08:16 PM
I had to pick other because I would grab either a .22LR or .2Mag. They will take all the game in my area, since the the biggest thing we have is whitetail and lots of samml game.

May 14, 2006, 08:41 PM
7,62x39 with a "backup" of 7,92x57mm. :D

Possibly trading the 7,62x39mm for a 5,56x45mm sometime.

May 14, 2006, 08:41 PM
308 currenlty. If & when I finish my 223 project completed & gets some rounds down range, that may change

May 14, 2006, 08:56 PM
Right now, .303 (and 12 ga. SxS).

In a couple weeks, .30 carbine, possibly 7.62 NATO.

May 14, 2006, 09:11 PM
Mine is a Marlin 1894PG in .44 Magnum. I can create the most ammo for this, I like its size/weight/power/capacity ratio and it is the rifle I shoot the most. The 5.56 and 7.62x39 are nice and handy, but I won't count on needing an anti-personnel round in SHTF scenario in my parts.

Most likely a rifle will need to provide food and a "security blanket" more than anything else. For this role the .44 Magnum seems a good fit, especially paired with a good revolver. Sure, ammunition is a little heavy and round count is down, but I can accept that trade-off.

You boys all have fun defending the hacienda in the big city. I'll be kickin' around out back somewhere leading a cozy existence! ;)

Brian Williams
May 14, 2006, 09:45 PM
I have to say if SHTF hit right now it would be my 1894C, but I would like to have an AK-47 with a under folder.

If TEOTWAWKI hit today it would be my 1894C and a S&W 13 3" with a Colt woodsman and a ruger 10/22 for my wife.

May 14, 2006, 09:51 PM
7.62x39, because I've got two SKS's and an AK and they get hungry!

After that, it's a hodge podge of 7.62x54 (Mosins), .270 Win, 30-30, 30-06, 12 gauge, .22lr, etc.

But, if SHTF tomorrow and the looters thought my house looked like a nice place for a free handout, I've got a lot of 7.62x39 I can give them. ;)

The Grand Inquisitor
May 14, 2006, 10:00 PM
Romanian mil-spec CUR II Ak 74 in 5.45x39 with a quick detach Romanian mil PSO-1 optic. If that isn't at hand, I'd replace it with my TANTAL in 5.45 (the TANTAL would probably be better in a big building because of the nice folder).

The AK is supplemented with my Steyr M9 in 9mm, and perhaps my Savage in .300 Win Mag if long range shots may be needed. It has a sling, but it probably wouldn't be the most pleasant piece to carry with another rifle for any extended period of time.

All in all, the first firearm I grab is an AK in 5.45. Full stop.

May 14, 2006, 10:11 PM
If my family goes with me, 7.62x39 is the only caliber, other than .22LR, that feeds enough weapons in order for each of us to have one. Better to have a single common caliber, especially one for which I have thousands of rounds.

Of course, my priority in such a situation would be to AVOID going into a battle, while using the firearms only when absolutely necessary, such as in self-defense or hunting. I don't pretend to be capable of anything more than that.

May 15, 2006, 12:01 AM
I have two, I voted 30/30 since that is my first line of defense...but my second is a .308 FAL.

english kanigit
May 15, 2006, 01:54 AM
Mosin baby! :cool:

I love my SKS but I just don't have the 'stock pile' that would let me use it as a SHTF rifle. I think I've got maybe 180 rounds total... :(

May 15, 2006, 02:07 AM
for when SHTF? always stock a few hundred rounds (atleast) of 7.62x39 for the SKS, and a few thousand rounds of 9mm for the tec-9, ruger and hi-point carbine. and as a back up... a few boxes of 300 mag, and a case of 12 gauge shells. Am I leaving anything out? hmm... I'm all out of 7.62x54R. not like I shoot the mosin anymore anyway. oh yeah! .22lr's. dang at 8 bucks a box of 550, ANYONE can afford to stock up on them. last but not least... .357. but if S-DOES-EVER-HTF... regretfully, I think I'll be leaving the .357 behind. Sorry old pal.

May 15, 2006, 02:26 AM
No doubt 7.62 Nato in a pair of PTR-91's. I've got over 150 mags and 5000rds of Lake City, plus a couple hundred tracers. Heavier than an AR? yep, but that's what slings are for. I'm a believer that it's better to have too much gun than not enough.

Vitamin G
May 15, 2006, 06:27 AM
AR-15 in my apartment...

SAR-1 at my parent's house.

1911 guy
May 15, 2006, 07:47 AM
Anything important deserves having two. So, my first pick is a .223/5.56 and my backup is a .308 bolt. They're both fairly ugly, to boot.

May 15, 2006, 09:29 AM
Polytech M14/S 7.62mm NATO, with M1 Garand .30-06 in reserve.
M1911 as sidearm.
M1 Carbine for the wife.

Stiletto Null
May 15, 2006, 09:42 AM
8mm Mausers or 7.5 Swiss. It'd depend on which one I had more ammo for at the time.

My SKS is a secondary.

May 15, 2006, 09:53 AM
Reply from France

My Marlin 336C (30/30)

Low profile rifle but good bullet in 0/50M shooting.

Really a versatil combinaison.


French froggy

May 15, 2006, 10:12 AM
For defensive purposes, 7.62x39, for high-rate-fire purposes.

But, supplemented by 12 gauge (both defensive and food gathering), .22 (food/game) and 9mm carbine as "just-plain-handy".

May 15, 2006, 10:27 AM


"I love my SKS but I just don't have the 'stock pile' that would let me use it as a SHTF rifle. I think I've got maybe 180 rounds total... "

You think you got it bad? I only have 100. I counted.

May 15, 2006, 11:55 AM
45 watt sonic / laser

.308, 9mm auto

Tom C.
May 15, 2006, 12:02 PM
Primary rifle, M-1 Garand, .30-06
Secondary rifle, Ruger Mini-14, .223
Backup rifle, M-1 Carbine, .30 Carbine

May 15, 2006, 12:20 PM

(the non-smarta$$ reply is .44mag) :p

May 15, 2006, 12:48 PM
If'n we had time to grab rifles.. The boys would get the .22's. Although they're good enough with the other carbines, they're most proficient with .22's. And if I need a quiet round then I can use one too. If I was grabbing a rifle for myself, it'd be my 03-A3. (30-aught-6) It'd be really tough to leave the 30/30 behind though. Living up near the Canadian border I'm not too worried about an invasion though. I think we kin take'm.


May 15, 2006, 08:53 PM
Starting in 2007, I am standardizing on .223 SS109 62gr and an Armalite AR-180b (I hope). For now, I'll stick with the MAK-90 in 7.62x39 and other support weapons. I like the MAK, but I want a little more velocity and a little lighter weight. Plus, it takes AR magazines, and is a US made weapon, not a combloc or Chinese manufacture.

May 15, 2006, 08:55 PM
For me it would be a AR15 in 6X45mm, loaded with 87 grain BTHP or V-Max bullets to around 2600 F.P.S. velocity.

May 15, 2006, 10:05 PM
My 1895 Cowboy in 45/70. Holds 9+1 and there isn't much S that it can't handle.

Wes Janson
May 15, 2006, 10:33 PM
I wonder how many people out there would have responded with ".50 BMG" but didn't want to say it publicly. ;)

May 15, 2006, 10:48 PM
I've just ordered a pile of de-linked British machine gun ammo from Sportsman's Guide, so that's what I've got.

$80 well spent in my view.

I'll have a Yugo 24/47 by the end of the week as well.

May 15, 2006, 11:13 PM
Let's see.

Long range:
8x57 (FN-49)
30-06 (HK SLB-2000)

Medium Range
.223 (SU-16)
50 Beowulf (AR platform)
7.62x39 (Yugo SKS)

Close Range
9mm (Sub 2000, EAA Winess P, Browning High Powers)
40 S&W (Browning High Powers)

That should cover it.

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