Saving a Mil-Surp.....Or how I found peace with the gun Gods...


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.45Guy
May 16, 2006, 03:21 PM
In the ongoing saga of my Bubbaed MC, I have recently aquired a somewhat proper stock. (Yes, that is an 8mm TS stock on a 91....It's the best I could do.) I still need to locate all the proper furniture and handguard, but it has gone from this:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/aguy123/Carc.jpg

To this:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/aguy123/patrol1.jpg

And now here:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/aguy123/1THRNEWC.jpg

And eventually it will look like this:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/aguy123/9128TS.jpg

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Cosmoline
May 16, 2006, 03:33 PM
May the rifle gods smile upon you!

freedom and guns
May 16, 2006, 03:47 PM
For doing this wonderful act of kindness. I believe that God punishes those that neglect their guns, cars, or houses. You, sir have gone against the grain, for which you will be rewarded handsomely. You and your rifle deserve it. You have done the exact opposite of neglect, you have triumphed against evil.Continue doing a good job. We cannot let the antis say we are uncaring. We must continue to keep our rifles in shape. We owe it to freedom, we owe it to our continuing existance and that of freedom as well. I even do that with my bb gun. Stay ready!

CZguy
May 16, 2006, 03:56 PM
Good for you.

Have you tried http://www.gunpartscorp.com/

.45Guy
May 16, 2006, 04:04 PM
I just checked Numrich. Nothing.:eek:

CZguy
May 16, 2006, 06:39 PM
.45Guy,

I just checked Numrich. Nothing.

Which model were you refering to. :confused:


http://www.e-gunparts.com/model.asp?idDept=168

.45Guy
May 16, 2006, 06:43 PM
The 91TS. It's odd that they have parts for the Type 1, but not the TS.

CZguy
May 16, 2006, 06:45 PM
Check back every month or so. Their inventory changes daily.

Also if you have a C&R license, you get a discount.

.45Guy
May 17, 2006, 11:06 AM
And the search continues. I'm kind of kicking myself in the arse right now. I had a chance to buy the complete package a few months ago and passed on it.:banghead:

ball3006
May 17, 2006, 12:16 PM
it makes you feel good restoring an old rifle to it's original configuration. I have done a Springfield 03, Mosin Nagant M91 and a 91/30, and two Chinese SKSs......chris3

.45Guy
May 17, 2006, 03:40 PM
Almost original.....It's still in 7.62x39;)

.45Guy
May 18, 2006, 03:15 PM
Here's a question, I found someone selling double set triggers. This really violates what I'm trying to do with the rifle, but it would be kind of neat to throw on now and again. Should I snag them?

DMK
June 15, 2006, 09:13 AM
Almost original.....It's still in 7.62x39I missed that the first time this thread came around.

OK, now I'm curious. How was it converted to 7.62x39? Was it rebarreled? It had an 8mm bore orginially right? Does the magazine still feed?

Details, we need details man! ;)

.45Guy
June 19, 2006, 04:05 PM
Here is the limited information I have on the gent that did the conversion. I had it slugged, and it's all kosher.(Feeds fine BTW):

Work done by the late Miles Pickens of Fort Payne AL. Miles was an 'amateur' (good enough to earn a living if he had chosen) gunsmith. Tragically, he died in his 40s.

Vince DiNardi was a good friend and fellow 'gun tinkerer' Vince does not have email, but his phone # is256/845-18xx, he's home all day and loves to talk guns.

Glad the Carc. conversion found a good home

.45Guy
June 19, 2006, 06:51 PM
Here's a shot of the chamber, showing my crappy ABS spacer to facilitate feeding of the shorter rounds.
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/aguy123/June015.jpg

DMK
June 19, 2006, 08:08 PM
Pretty cool! That's a neat carbine you have there. Although technically a bubba job, it looks like he did his homework on it.

How many rounds can you get in the mag? Do the standard strippers actually work too?

.45Guy
June 19, 2006, 09:34 PM
Six in the standard Carc clips work just fine. Due to the more pronounced case taper they're a little wobbly, but once in the mag they do allright.

.45Guy
June 23, 2006, 07:08 PM
The parts arrived today courtesy of Reich's Outfitting & Trading Co. I have to say, he's a great guy with a large supply of mil-surp parts. Anyway, here's the pic:D

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/aguy123/may06161.jpg

DMK
June 23, 2006, 10:05 PM
Nice job! That looks a lot better! :)

Nhsport
June 24, 2006, 09:42 AM
Good job!
I have a springfield A3-03 that went thru what appears to be a comercial buba job back years ago. I am temped to dump a boatload of $ into it to bring it back but I have a nice springfield and truth be told the buba version is a handy fun gun. I would never encorage anyone to chop up one of these old guns but it is fairly cool as it is. I have considered takeing the buba patched poly covered chopped stock and getting a beter recoil pad and giveing the stock a krackel black finish.
Rear sight was trash so I had a Lyman micrometer peep installed,I had a Timey trigger laying around so I threw that on it also. Most mid powered bolt guns get scopes slapped on them but a super smooth bolt,great peep,nice trigger,all make for a gun that is super easy to hit with . I get a kick of showing at the range when my buddys are blasting away at the gongs or whatever with their high dollar scoped wonder guns and showing them how easy it is to hit stuff with Iron sights!

.45Guy
June 24, 2006, 11:17 AM
Another pic:D
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/aguy123/may06009.jpg

.45Guy
June 24, 2006, 04:26 PM
And one with my wife's Universal carbine.... She also has claimed the Destroyer carbine my mom gave me for my birthday:cuss: Though I suppose that beats being married to an anti.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/aguy123/may06.jpg

Kymasabe
June 24, 2006, 05:40 PM
I too have rescued an old Mil-Surp. Took a beat up Chinese Mosin T53 carbine, someone had added 1" to the buttstock, stripped off all the blue and varnish and polyurethaned the whole gun.

I stripped off the poly and refinished the stock myself, sanded with fine paper, then 0000 steel wool, stained, tung-oiled, then hand rubbed in my gunrub paste of 1/3rd beeswax, 1/3rd boiled linseed oil, and 1/3rd turpentine. Has a nice non-shiny military finish now, more American looking finish than communist...but I like it. Here is a before and after pic.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i206/Kymasabe/stuff027.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i206/Kymasabe/mosin003.jpg

.45Guy
June 24, 2006, 05:44 PM
That's a damn fine looking rifle ya got there!:D

Kymasabe
June 24, 2006, 11:11 PM
Thank you..it's one of my favorites.

.45Guy
June 26, 2006, 08:27 AM
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/aguy123/may06001.jpg

yipper
June 29, 2006, 09:36 PM
Nice looking rifle. I have a similar project, a 7.62 x 39 mm barrelled and sporterized carcano that I'm returning to its original M38 Cav. carbine configuration (keeping the new barrel, though).

Mine feeds pretty well, but I think would be improved by a similar spacer in the magazine. How did you set yours up?

thanks,

geoff

Tsonda
June 30, 2006, 11:46 PM
You are doing good works here on earth and that will count in your favor. That is a great looking rifle.

rangerruck
July 1, 2006, 12:07 PM
the kittens were released.

.45Guy
July 24, 2006, 02:26 PM
Well, my wife left the camera at her parents' house so I'm forced to scan my latest target. 100 yard 3 round group using WWB 123 grain FMJ.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/aguy123/Scan0001-1.jpg

.45Guy
July 24, 2006, 03:50 PM
magazine spacer?

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Nice looking rifle. I have a similar project, a 7.62 x 39 mm barrelled and sporterized carcano that I'm returning to its original M38 Cav. carbine configuration (keeping the new barrel, though).

Mine feeds pretty well, but I think would be improved by a similar spacer in the magazine. How did you set yours up?

thanks,

geoff

I just used two pins through the little bit of receiver that protrudes down towards the trigger group. I would highly suggest having a spacer welded like this: http://www.gunboards.com/forums/uploaded/Antonio/200625181225_MVC-396F.JPG

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