[Glock Glockler]

I got myself one, and I'm pleased, but it needs more. I was thinking about one of those Pneumatic recoil reducers, but I don't know much about them, and Boston T. Party recommends having it pimped out by www.armforte.com with their recoil reduction system, which is supposed to make it even more reliable.

Anyone know anything about these?

[CWL]

Why in the world do you need a recoil-reducer for an AR gun system?
Yeah, the .223 is known for it's recoil! :rolleyes:

I have seen little bitty 135 pound men in Asia fire theirs without any problem. I have also seen girls on the wrong side of 100 pounds fire ARs and AKs.

How many rounds have you fired yours? Why not spend the money on some training instead?

[ShaiVong]

I dont like recoil. I'm somewhat of a sissy.

I just fired a .308 today, and a .270. Neither of which had recoil pads. I have enough muscle on my shoulder to cushion the recoil, but my buddy is skinny and hes hurtin.

There is nothing 'GOOD' or 'MACHO' about recoil. The less the better. Its distracting.

Glock: I dont know anything about the pneumatic recoil reducer, but if it helps, go for it. Easy come easy go. There is always another paycheck for training or something else. The only rifle that i wouldnt leap at making recoil less is my crossman pellet rifle.:cool:

[Glock Glockler]

The lower the recoil is on a weapon, the quicker the follow up shot and greater the control. I don't care that the recoil isn't tremendous to begin with, why not lower it if you can easily do so?

So, getting back to my original question, do you know anything about them or not?

[Midnight]

Have you fired this AR yet?

[Coltdriver]

I have a compensator on mine that came from Bushmaster.

Recoil almost gone, comparable to a .22.

Noisy, range neighbors will hate you because the back blast is loud.

But very effective. I put it on mine to shoot coyotes. Second shots are on target and you never loose sight through a red dot type scope.

But the noise has to be heard to be appreciated.

[ShaiVong]

I always wear earplugs AND earmuffs anyway. I get more of a flinch from the blast than from the actual recoil.

[podwich]

An AR15 has nearly negligible recoil in my experience.

[Sleeping Dog]

For a cheap recoil reducer, put a lead weight in the buttstock cavity. It'll reduce it from "almost nothing" to "more almost nothing".

For tricking out an AR for performance, I'd think the two big purchases would be a barrel float tube, and a match trigger. Free-floating the barrel takes out inconsistencies in sling tension and various rests. The match trigger, well you just have to try one and you'll be sold.

Regards.

[curt]

I have no experience with either of the systems you mentioned. However, IMO any gadgets added to a firearm have the potential to decrease its reliability and so damn well better be worth paying that price.

I don't know whether your concerned with muzzle rise or recoil. If its recoil then...i don't know what to tell you:rolleyes: If its muzzle rise then there are muzzle brakes out there that do an admirable job of getting one back on target quickly. I wouldn't recommend one on a HD type weapon since the effects of muzzle rise are insignificant at typical defensive ranges and your paying a price in blast and noise.

And i would argue your point that it needs more in the area of recoil management. Put a 1,000 rounds through it and get used to it then decide.

[Joe Demko]

If the pneumatic recoil reducer is the pricey gadget that replaces the recoil spring, my question is why bother? It is both more complex and 10x as expensive as the spring. The most it could possibly have to offer is that the gun would work as well as it would with the spring but w/o the "sproing" noise one can hear through the buttstock. So, you trade not hearing a Don Martin sound effect for an expensive gadget that provides more parts to possibly fail.
AR's are good rifles 'til folks start trying to improve them.

[Onslaught]

"What kind of a sissy are you boy that you can't handle the recoil of a wimpy old AR? Why I used to fire 50 BMG's off my forehead without the compensator attached, and I didn't feel a thing!" :rolleyes:

Congrats on your purchase... I LOVE mine, it's my all time favorite rifle.

All macho chest thumping aside, If you want a recoil reducer, you go for it!

The folks on www.ar15.com could give you more info on what types of hydraulic doohickies work and what don't.

FWIW, the "pneumatic recoil reducer" was originally intended for and is used very effectively in FULL AUTO's, where it slows the cyclic rate of the rifle. I would hazard a guess that, by slowing the rate of rearward motion of the "works", both muzzle rise and recoil would be reduced.

I personally don't care HOW little a rifle "kicks", less is always better!

Good luck!

[nemesis]

You will find with experience that an AR rifle has almost no felt recoil. It is, after all, just a centerfire twenty-two cartridge. A straightline stock reduces muzzle lift dramatically and I doubt that compensators, et al, will make much difference.

The best solution for recoil is a solid hold on the weapon.

[Soap]

Can you people lay off about the recoil issue? On ANY weapon where fast followup shots/multiple targets are necessary, the less the recoil, the better. I can shoot anything that is .338WM class and under for about 100-150 rounds or even an infinite number of rounds (say with a .223) from a bolt gun w/ hard buttplate without a problem. I've worked on my positioning to make this possible. But would I want a recoil reduction for a combat/gaming gun? Heck yes I would. I have my AR now with just a bare muzzle (I hate brakes) so I'm interested if this thing actually works. Might help my 3-gun scores... The chest thumping is nice but imagine reduced recoil out of a gun without increased anything else like muzzle blast or weight.

[Sylvilagus Aquaticus]

hmmm...

The only problems I ever had with AR's was the 'sprooooooiiiiing' and the big honkin' earmuffs I wear rubbing on the stock.

I gots big ears, ya see.


Regards,
Rabbit.


"If we could just get everyone to close their eyes and visualize world
peace for an hour, imagine how serene and quiet it would be until
the looting started..."

[curt]

ut would I want a recoil reduction for a combat/gaming gun? Heck yes I would. I have my AR now with just a bare muzzle (I hate brakes) so I'm interested if this thing actually works. Might help my 3-gun scores...

I can see playing with something like this if your building a game gun. However, you can't have both a combat and a game gun together. Case in point: triggers. With a game gun i would want a nice adjustable trigger like a jewel, on a combat gun i don't want any higher a part count than stock so i go with an accuracy speaks single stage with no screws.

[Soap]

I game with what I would fight with. I'm not a big believer in using specialized firearms for games. So that pretty much elimates a lot of add ons that a pure gamer would add. If this recoil reducer thing actually works and doesn't affect reliability, that would be an improvement over the original design, part count aside.

[Onslaught]

Can you people lay off about the recoil issue? ....... The chest thumping is nice but imagine reduced recoil out of a gun without increased anything else like muzzle blast or weight.
BTW, in case you missed it, mine was SARCASM aimed at the other posts giving Glocker a hard time in the first place. I'm with you on this one.

Purely sarcasm, but it's all in fun :cool: