RWS, CCI or Winchester


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kannonfyre
May 19, 2006, 10:06 AM
If shot using a decent semi auto .22LR rifle, which of the following rounds have the best reputation?

RWS high velocity LRN (40gr)

http://www.rws-munition.de/en/sports_rimfire/rimfire_spezial.htm?navid=31

CCI Mini-Mag HP

http://www.cci-ammunition.com/default.asp?menu=1&s1=3&pg=18&prod_id=4

or Winchester High Velocity 40gr LRNs?

http://www.winchester.com/products/catalog/rimfiredetail.aspx?symbol=X22LR&cart=MjIgTG9uZyBSaWZsZQ==

I know that different rifles have an affinity for different rounds but what I am enquiring about is REPUTATION and evidence of consistency. In other words, which if the three has the most commanding brand name and has real life chronograph data which is the closest to the manufacturer's muzzle velocity data?

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ball3006
May 19, 2006, 11:17 AM
I have a Mossberg M44 bolt action that shoots one hole groups at 25 yards with cheapie Federal Lightning ammo. My Ruger Mk 2 likes Remington target, and hates Federal ammo of all kinds.......You just have to shoot several brands and see what works the best for that particular gun......chris3

Grump
May 19, 2006, 12:40 PM
When I was shopping for ammo for our college rifle team, I found the best accuracy for general practice .22 LR from the following, usually in this order of best to worst:

1. Old Federal Target (red plastic 100-rd box). Dirty but good, very consistent. Plain lead.

2. Winchester Super-X solids...actually any Super-X, even the HPs. Copper washed.

3. CCI Mini-Mag solids. Don't remember if I tested the HPs.

RWS Standard was perhaps a bit better, but we had no local supply, and our club budget didn't allow for large purchases (mail order sales were just becoming common and the silly sign-for-the-hadngun-ammo rule had just ended).

For real matches, we usually scrounged up some Eley or RWS, though it was rare to get 10-X or R-50.

I had long given up on Remington "Target". 3 MOA at 50 yards out of a target gun could be equaled at less cost with any bulk-pack ammo from Winchester or Federal or CCI. The absolute worst accuracy I ever had was those Remington hypervelocity truncated cone loads. I don't think they sell those any more...

CCI Stingers weren't very accurate, either.

My "reputation" info is based solely on my own experience. With rimfires, I trust nothing else.

I have heard very good reports about Wolf Match .22 LR. No local supply for me, but a nephew won his state's gallery championship using the stuff this year.

Grump
May 19, 2006, 12:42 PM
BTW, I don't care SQUAT about velocity variation at 50 yards or less. Group size does not always correlate with extreme velocity spread or standard deviation.

In my circles, RWS and Eley have the best reputations, but no one shoots high velocity.

Onmilo
May 19, 2006, 05:24 PM
Every one of the ammunition brands you have listed are noted for being reliable, consistent, and accurate.
What really matters is how each will perform in your weapon.

It is up to you to test and see which brand will provide the best results for you.
No one on these boards can tell you with certainty which ammunition is going to work best in your firearm nor can they tell you with certainty which ammunition is going to provide the most consistent results in your firearm.
That leaves the fun of finding out up to you.
Buy a small stock of each and check them out.
Buy as much as you can afford of the brand and lot number that produces the best results.

KaceCoyote
May 19, 2006, 05:46 PM
I'm a huge CCI fan.

R.W.Dale
May 19, 2006, 06:09 PM
All of my .22's go from shooting nice neat little groups to shooting apple sized groups every time I have tried a CCI product. My CZ452 won't even chamber velocitors.

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