444 vs 45/70


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bbutler
May 20, 2006, 08:39 PM
Which marlin lever action would you rather have?:D

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stolivar
May 20, 2006, 08:59 PM
get the 45-70




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MechAg94
May 20, 2006, 09:04 PM
Price of ammo and availability of ammo. Any difference?
45/70 is a classic that will be around for a long time.

JohnKSa
May 20, 2006, 09:23 PM
There is a tremendous variety of 45-70 ammunition available--far more than you will find in factory .444 loadings.

JNewell
May 20, 2006, 10:48 PM
What he said, and if you roll your own, the bullet selection is greater in .45 also - most .44 bullets are not built for .444 Marlin velocities. As someone wrote above, too, even if performance is equal I get a definite good feeling using something as venerable as the .45-70.

jem375
May 21, 2006, 12:17 AM
the 444 with the Hornady 265 gr. JHP is a really good deer rifle, but the 45-70 goes a lot better with heavier bullets. I load the 300 gr. Remington's in the 45-70 and it shoots great...the only reason I would buy the 444 is that I have the 375JDJ in pistol and rifle and could use the cases for that...

mountainclmbr
May 21, 2006, 10:43 AM
I got the 444 because I reload for 44mag and can use the same bullets. I like the Nosler partitions because the bullets are probably a bit lightly jacketed for 444 velocities. The 45-70 would be the way to go if no other factors influenced the decision.

stevelyn
May 21, 2006, 10:59 AM
You have more and better factory ammo options with the .45-70. If you are a reloader........Well, the possibilities are endless.

The .444's shortcoming is that the majority of factory ammo is loaded with bullets designed for .44 Mag velocities and are pretty much worthless for anything other than deer and maybe black bears at broadsides.
However, Buffalo Bore and Hornady load .444s with stouter bullets up to the tasks that it's capable of. Reloading expands the possibilities further.

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