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bigcim
May 23, 2006, 01:11 AM
I shot my uncles browming 7mm rem mag and fell in love with it but i cant decice wether to get a tikka t3 stainless or a weatherby vangaurd sub moa i heard the tikkas are great

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billcavazos
May 23, 2006, 04:55 AM
Both are nice rifles. The Tikka is definately a nicer and more substantial rifle. The Vanguard is just a Weatherby Japanese made knock off, but very accurate as well.

Hokkmike
May 23, 2006, 07:22 AM
I, too, vote for the Tikka.

ojr
May 23, 2006, 07:24 AM
I have two tikkas, one t3 in 7mm-08 and one model 595 in 22-250. both very accurate guns .The t3 lite is easy to carry long distances.buy one enjoy .

hoghunting
May 23, 2006, 09:54 AM
Take the Tikka! The Vanguard is a good rifle and the Sub-Moa is a better one, but the Tikka is an excellent rifle. Extremely accurate, adjustable trigger, light, very smooth action, balances well and is less expensive than the MOA. If you want to order the Tikka, one of the cheapest places I've found is www.thegunsource.com and they have a large inventory. Just order it and have it sent to an FFL in your area for the transfer.

Sulaco
May 23, 2006, 12:11 PM
Every Weatherby Vanguard made is guaranteed to shoot less than 1.5 inches at 100 yards with factory ammo. For a little more money, you can get one guaranteed to shoot less than 1 inch at 100 yards with factory ammo. I don't think the extra money is worth the difference but that's personal preference.

The Vanguard has a fully adjustable trigger as well. It comes from the factory at about 4 pounds.

The Vanguard which is made by Howa in Japan is one of the nicest mass-produced rifles I have ever seen. It is all forged steel and very well finished.

I would be interested in knowing what makes the Tikka a "nicer and more substantial rifle" than the Vanguard.

And the Vanguard is not a "knockoff" at all. A knockoff is a term used to describe an unauthorized copy or imitation. The Vanguard is neither of these.

In my opinion, ergonomics plays a big part on which rifle I would choose when your choices are between these two. The Vanguard and the Tikka's feel very different. The Tikka's tend to lend themselves better to smaller statured shooters while the Vanguards seem to fit larger framed shooters well.

The Vanguard has a 24" barrel while the Tikka has a 22" barrel. The Tikka is lighter with a shorter length of pull.

Something else to consider is that Tikka is now owned by Beretta.

ojr
May 23, 2006, 12:35 PM
Hello Sulaco.Good point about the Beretta ownership, but then so is Benelli,Sako,Franchi,etc etc.Each and every Tikka or Sako is guarenteed to shoot 1moa or better before it leaves the factory,They don,t find the odd one that will shoot better, slap another stock on it and charge $200.00 extra
Tikka Rifles since the L55 have had a reputation for being accurate and smooth, the only thing was the weight,now they have fixed that. The action is the slickest on the market.
The Tikkas barrel is 22 3/4" same as the sako.
Ok the magazine is plastic but it is a single feed rather than the staggered, and makes chambering near perfect.
I'm 6' and certainly have no trouble with the configuration of the stock .
Each to his own I guess, but mines the Tikka, by a long shot.

Medusa
May 23, 2006, 01:05 PM
Why not a Sako TRG-42 in 300WM or 338LM instead? Sako is the best buy in off-shelf precision rifles

bigcim
May 23, 2006, 02:53 PM
medusa i like the tragectory of the 7mm and the rifle is for deer bear and hog not only that its going to be a feild gun so i think a sako is to nice sulaco the tikka mag barrel is 24 3/8

Andrew S
May 23, 2006, 03:07 PM
I thought Beretta was just a distributor?

bigcim
May 23, 2006, 10:57 PM
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Schleprok62
May 24, 2006, 12:31 AM
I'd go with the Vanguard... to me, the Tikka's felt too "BB gunnish" and toylike. Too much plastic for a rifle in it's price class... I'd buy the Browning A-bolt before the Tikka. Oh, also, to replace the magazine, or buy an extra, prepare to give up an arm, leg, and rights to your first born... :scrutiny:

bigcim
May 24, 2006, 03:49 PM
the vanguard is synthetic and he tikka is laminated composite you say it has a bb gun feel to it

frank c
May 24, 2006, 08:01 PM
I just purchased the Tikka T3 varmint stainless in the 308 cal.This is one nice rifle,very accurate and a smooth bolt to boot.I would say it is comparable to my sakos and CZ rifles as far as accuracy.Very nice fit and finish.frank c.

CB1961
May 24, 2006, 09:48 PM
I vote for the Weatherby Vanguard also. I have one chambered in .308win and it is the best rifle I have seen for the price IMHO...$408 out the door for me at the time...Everyone has different ideas of what they like, but if you look at bolt construction, extractor, and overall finish the Vanguard stacks up pretty well. It would be worth the time to do the comparsion at least. I think the Vanguard now comes in a hardwood stock also...about $200 dollars more I believe. Good scope is important too, so for me rifle price has to stay on a budget. I'd spend more if I could.

bigcim
May 25, 2006, 01:59 AM
thanks but i dont want wood im comparing the tikka to the sub moa it $900

bigcim
May 25, 2006, 06:15 PM
ANY MORE HELPFULL ADVISE AND IS THERE A WAY TO CHANGE MY TITLE TO MAKE IT MORE SPECIFIC I NOTICED IT SOUND LIKE IM ASKING TO HELP SOMEONE ELSE:)

bigcim
May 26, 2006, 06:47 PM
anyone have a tikka or weatherby in 7mm rem mag to compare too

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