[usmarine0352_2005]

Here's a hypothetical: (Hopefully answered by a lawyer or someone who knows.)

Let's say your a bouncer at a bar in MN, that has a no gun sign up. You end up getting in a situation where you shoot someone.....even if it's justifiable homicide, will you get in trouble b/c you had a gun at a bar that had a sign up????

[Aquaholic]

I suggest you ask that question at www.twincitiescarry.com. Lots of smart folks there on MN carry issues.

My thought is, if it was THAT necessary to shoot someone, who cares if you get in trouble? If it wasn't THAT necessary however... maybe you shouldn't have?

Good luck.

[usmarine0352_2005]

Does have CCW permit.

So I forgot to add that, lets say the person does have a CCW permit.

Kicks the guy out of the bar and the guy who got kicked out, goes home and comes back with a gun. (Like what happened in Mpls, in which the kicked out guy, shot and killed the bouncer, recently.)

So the guy gets past police like he did in the case in Mpls and comes to shoot the bouncer. The bouncer shoots him to defend his life. I know the sign at the bar so "NO GUNS ALLOWED". So what happens now?

[HankB]

In some jurisdictions, employees of a business may carry firearms with the approval of management; certainly the owner of a small business can, with no permit or license required. (Places like NYC or DC not included - I'm talking the USA here.)

A bouncer, being in the employ of the bar, may have an exemption to a "no guns allowed" sign. (Note, however, that I am not a lawyer, so this is not legal advice.)

[dmallind]

IANAL but pretty up on MN carry law.

The penalties for having a weapon in a posted place are minimal and actually in your hypothetical case irrelevant.

If you carry in a posted place you have to be asked to leave and REFUSE. If you do that, and only if you do that, it's a $25 fine max and a petty misdemeanor.

Assuming the shoot itself was legit you would have to have a business owner willing to try to retroactively charge trespass against an employee who had to shoot in legitimate self defense, thus protecting your establishment and clientele, all to get him a $25 fine. Doubt that's too likely.

ref to 624.714 MN statute

[sturmruger]

I carry in any establishment I have a reason to be in. They are not going to notice my concealed gun so it will never be an issue. They only time you could get in trouble is if someone noticed you had a gun and asked you to leave and then you refused to do so.

Keep it concealed and pray you never have to use it like the rest of us do. Also you might want to consider getting the book written by Joel Rosenberg it covers all of this stuff in great detail. I read it every 12 months to make sure I am 100% up on the current laws.

[CraigJS]

So Strum, do you only carry concealed in Minnesota?

[pete f]

Although the law does not stipulate CC only, most people do in the large metro area, If you head out to the rest of the state, i see a few people who carry openly, but many more who just carry and if it shows a little oh well. We have no laws about printing or similar, Our brandishing law is really tied to the assualt laws. Meaning using it in an aggressive and offensive capacity, but here, pulling it and keeping it discrete seem to be covered by the breadth of the license. If you feel threatened and pull to ready, but do not use it, If you can justify feeling in fear of bodily harm, it is accepted. Which is the prefered use of a concealed weapon anyway, to stop a threat. Not to need to shoot someone, but to stop a threat.