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Harry Tuttle May 25, 2006, 10:32 AM http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=40395&stc=1&d=1148510572
http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus10.html
10 Leading Causes of Death, United States
2003, All Races, Both Sexes
ages 1-44
1 Unintentional Injury
48,914
2 Malignant Neoplasms
22,369
3 Heart Disease
18,433
4 Suicide
15,905
5 Homicide
13,694
6 HIV
7,144
7 Liver Disease
3,394
8 Cerebro-vascular
3,379
9 Diabetes Mellitus
2,905
10 Congenital Anomalies
2,368
so lets break the #1 cause down:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=40416&stc=1&d=1148567026
Homicide is #5
and firearms are cited in ~10,000 of those deaths
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Third_Rail May 25, 2006, 10:41 AM How dare you bring FACTS into an argument!
;)
Stiletto Null May 25, 2006, 11:01 AM Weird. I figured firearms accidents at least accounted for more than "just died". :scrutiny:
Great Information and links!
Thank you!
Mods, we need this in THR Library Please.
Steve
geegee May 25, 2006, 11:11 AM Nice work.
geekWithA.45 May 25, 2006, 11:11 AM More interesting facts from the FBI 2004 stats, discussed in more detail here:
http://geekwitha45.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_geekwitha45_archive.html#114694747827023859
Population of US: 295,734,134
Violent crimes: 1,367,009
Violent crimes in which firearms played a role: 26.4%, 360,890
Violent crimes in which firearms played a role classified as murder: 10,650
Murders overall: 16,137 (66% firearm, the remainder mostly blade, unknown or other)
Based on this, and a few other facts concerning how much crime is committed by frequent fliers, I estimate that all the the "mayhem" that everyone angsts about is the result of the activity of 0.05% of the population.
What it comes down to is that vast amounts of time, effort, liberty and treasure are put to the torch trying to manage the activities of about 200,000 members of our society.
There has got to be a better way.
Harry Tuttle May 25, 2006, 11:18 AM now if you want to save children from preventable death,
it would appear drown proofing them might save a significant share:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=40419&stc=1&d=1148570258
Harry Tuttle May 25, 2006, 11:22 AM you can also use this tool to peer into a specific States data:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=40420&stc=1&d=1148570556
Harry Tuttle May 25, 2006, 02:10 PM and now shipped into legal and political, this thread will not be seen by those that would gain knowledge from its bar charted goodness
:(
Lucky May 25, 2006, 02:23 PM I kind of thought most parents did drown-proof their kids... They tell you how not to swim in a river, how whirlpools and eddies can suck you under and your drowned body can stay on the bottom, held down by currents for days. How RIP tides in the ocean can drag you 20 miles under-water and leave your drowned body so far from land you won't get washed up for days. How rocks can break your bones or knock you unconcious, and then you get stuck and pinned up against them for days, maybe underwater.
etc.
Am I the only one who was told that anything I wanted to do would result in death, in some manner or other?
On the bright side, I did make Silver in red-cross swimming:)
Thin Black Line May 25, 2006, 02:27 PM Out of the child homicides it would be helpful to know the percentage
caused by parents/caretakers for each age group.
Harry Tuttle May 25, 2006, 03:41 PM An analysis of 285 homicides committed in the United Kingdom from 1989 to 1991 involving victims under the age of 18 years found just 13 per cent had been killed by strangers; 60 per cent were killed by parents. Similar results have been reported in the United States and in Australia.
Phetro May 25, 2006, 04:08 PM Out of the child homicides it would be helpful to know the percentage
caused by parents/caretakers for each age group.
.01%. Clearly, this indicates that parents are an unnecessary evil. Abortion must be a good thing after all. If abortion saves just one fetus from being born only to die from an accident...
geekWithA.45 May 25, 2006, 05:46 PM 60 per cent were killed by parents.
Clearly, parenthood must be outlawed.
It's for the children.
There are two ways to approach this heinous problem.
The first is that all children can be raised by the state.
The second is that hospitals can randomize the kids as they're born.
For example, you'd go to a hospital, and give birth. The baby would then go into the baby pool. You'd then be given a ticket to select a child from the pool other than your own that matched age, race and gender.
There. Problem fixed. After that, 100% will be killed by strangers.
:scrutiny: :neener:
boofus May 25, 2006, 05:49 PM I thought the top 2 leading causes of death in America were:
1) Heart Disease
2) Chuck Norris
:D
Azrael256 May 25, 2006, 07:50 PM I kind of thought most parents did drown-proof their kids... No. Intelligent parents, like ours, made sure we could swim at a very early age and made dang sure that we understood that the pool was off limits without an adult present.
I do, however, find it very interesting that the swimmin' hole and the backyard pool are ten times more dangerous to children than firearms. Nobody in my family was either shot or drowned, and I suspect proper education and supervision had everything to do with it. The solution? Ban stupid parents!
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