[V4Vendetta]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/240506femaplan.htm


Doesn't that just give you a warm feeling all over? Like nausea?:mad:


I'm not sure if this should be in L&P so if you mods want, please move it there instead of deleting it.

[real_name]

Good find.
One less reason to open my front door.

A Pastor has come forward to blow the whistle on a nationwide FEMA program which is training Pastors and other religious representatives to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the government" in preparation for a declaration of martial law, property and firearm seizures, and forced relocation.

In March of this year the Pastor, who we shall refer to as Pastor Revere, was invited to attend a meeting of his local FEMA chapter which circulated around preparedness for a potential bio-terrorist attack, any natural disaster or a nationally declared emergency.

The FEMA directors told the Pastors that attended that it was their job to help implement FEMA and Homeland Security directives in anticipation of any of these eventualities. The first directive was for Pastors to preach to their congregations Romans 13, the often taken out of context bible passage that was used by Hitler to hoodwink Christians into supporting him, in order to teach them to "obey the government" when martial law is declared.

It was related to the Pastors that quarantines, martial law and forced relocation were a problem for state authorities when enforcing federal mandates due to the "cowboy mentality" of citizens standing up for their property and second amendment rights as well as farmers defending their crops and livestock from seizure. It was stressed that the Pastors needed to preach subservience to the authorities ahead of time in preparation for the round-ups and to make it clear to the congregation that "this is for their own good."

We have received confirmation from other preachers and Pastors that this program is a nationwide initiative and a literal Soviet model whereby the churches are being systematically infiltrated by government volunteers and used as conduits for martial law training and conditioning. The Pastor was told that over 13,000 counties were already on board.

[Preacherman]

I should point out that Alex Jones is hardly what I (or anyone else with any sense) would call an objective, unbiased news source: and there are no such entities as "FEMA local chapters". This report is pure and unadulterated bull droppings. Believe it at your own risk.

[cordex]

Hrm ...
It'll take more verification for me than one guy's say-so on PrisonPlanet.

[real_name]

You'd believe it in a heartbeat if it was reported by FOXnews and it was Atheist Communists instead of Christians.

[rbernie]

You'd believe it in a heartbeat if it was reported by FOXnews and it was Atheist Communists instead of Christians.No, I still wouldn't believe it - too little corroboration, too much speculation and/or hearsay.

This report is pure and unadulterated bull droppings. Believe it at your own risk.That was my conclusion as well.

[geekWithA.45]

Tread carefully when traveling in tin foil hat/black helicopter territory.

The land of conspiracy theory is a land of smoke and mirrors, which is easy to get lost in.

Flipside, it's not a bad idea to take a look every now and then to see what's moving beneath the surface.

[V4Vendetta]

Nobody's pointing the finger of guilt at you Preacherman. You seem to be on the up & up. No need to be offended. However I can say from studying history that religion usually goes along with the government. A example is WW2. Hitler formed a alliance with the Vatican. He failed to meet his end of the bargain so the Vatican started helping Jews escape.

Another example was the Crusades.

[Correia]

I've got enough real government nonsense to worry about. I don't need any made up government nonsense. Thanks though.

[Thefabulousfink]

It all sounds a little too "tinfoil hat" to me. I do believe that it is good to question the Government, and I don't trust FEMA and the DHS, but that is more for their ineptitude than any overarching conspiracy.

...And as long as I have my guns and miles and miles of untaimed wilderness to hide in, I dont think I'll worry about FEMA's "Super Priests":rolleyes:

[kfranz]

Lies told to feed paranoia to encourage the sale of "anti-gov't tinfoil hat stuff" does indeed give me a bit of nausea.

As a previous poster said, there is PLENTY of real governmental intereference to worry about.

[Old Dog]

However I can say from studying history that religion usually goes along with the government.
Um ... and I'd say ... you probably need to go back to your study of history. In this country especially, there is a long history of religious groups going against government, from aiding in the Patriots' efforts against English rule, from carrying on the fight against slavery and supporting the Underground Railroad, from supporting efforts of combatants and spies on both sides during the Civil War, to active anti-war movements during WWI, Viet Nam and even assisting draft evaders to get to Canada ... This is only the war-time stuff. Look around, and you'll find religious groups on each side of every current issue, be it political or election issues, illegal immigration, abortion, civil rights, "homeland security," and yes, even disaster relief and FEMA ... Do you belong to any major denomination? You'd be surprised how politically active most of the major churches are in this country. Then you can also look at the churches' missionary efforts in other countries. "Religion," in and of itself, never "usually goes along with the government. Your statement is simply invalid, for many reasons.

Let's not even get into church efforts in Germany and other occupied nations during WWII to assist the Jews and other victims of the Third Reich during the Holocaust as well as all the resistance movements.

[Sindawe]

Plots within plans within schemes within conspiracies to deceive and miss direct attention. Frankly I'd not put it past the movers and shakers in our government to push the stuff linked by the OP as a cover for actually doing such. ACK! I'm starting to feel like this kid:

[kfranz]

Too much work to be a conspiracy theorist these days. I've switched over to being a coincidence theorist...

[c_yeager]

You'd believe it in a heartbeat if it was reported by FOXnews and it was Atheist Communists instead of Christians.


The funny part is that even Fox News and the rest of the mainstream media couldnt even come up with something as absurd as this report with a straight face. The very idea that someone would choose to believe such obvious tripe does much to indicate the way their mind works.

[Justin]

What if the tinfoil hat conspiracy crowd is really in charge of it all?

Think about it...

;)