Bought my first "Cute" gun
LightningLink
April 27, 2003, 11:07 PM
I've had my eye on these Walther P22 pistols for a while now. I was always just on the verge of getting one, but would keep waiting. I have a Ruger Mark II for more serious target shooting, but I was looking for something that would be a "fun" plinker.
While browsing around the gunshow this weekend, I noticed a
few tables with these new "Slate" (blue/gray) framed P22s. I think for the first time ever I thought, "Now that's a cute gun." But, it was priced about the same as regular P22s, maybe a little less than some of the 5" barrel models and so I kept looking.
I eventually went back to the table that had the lowest marked price ($369) to fondle it some more. That's when the dealer saw my interest and started telling me about it: "Limited run ... blah blah ... worth something some day ... blah blah ... comes with both 3.4" and 5" barrels ... blah blah". Both barrels? And it's marked lower than the black P22 with only the 5" barrel? Hmm, very interesting. He whips out his calculator, taps some buttons and says he'll let me have it for $339. I had no idea how much the second barrel costs, but simple cost comparison tells me this is a decent deal. Not stellar, but good enough to close it. It wasn't until I got home when I saw that the 5" barrel upgrade alone can cost $80 to $90.
It's all in all identical to the black P22. Likewise it comes with one -A mag with pinky rest and one non-A mag with no pinky rest. Oddly though, the two mags appear identical except for the part number and base-plate. I've read about some notch or slot in the top-back of the new mags but both of these have that mod. Perhaps the retrofitted all the older non-A mags? Anyway, here she is ... my first "Cute Gun" :rolleyes:
So was it a good deal?
Thanks,
:cool: LL :cool:
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Min
April 27, 2003, 11:14 PM
I think those P22's with colored frames are better looking than the black ones.
I agree with you about the cuteness factor. I think you did well on the price, but I wouldn't worry about things like that. If you are like me, the joy that comes from bringing a new gun home from a gunshow is what counts.
Have fun!
Angelo
April 27, 2003, 11:15 PM
Nice little .22 you got there! Good luck with it and enjoy!
Angelo
Standing Wolf
April 27, 2003, 11:23 PM
It's definitely cute.
The only gun I've ever bought because it was irresistibly cute was my Walther PPK, which turned out to be quite a good shooter.
Cute normally doesn't carry much weight with me, but once in awhile...
Sisco
April 27, 2003, 11:27 PM
I've been eyeing one of those at the gunshop. Can't wait for your range report!
zahc
April 28, 2003, 05:59 PM
<cutesy voice> AWWWWWW:D </end cutesy voice>
I want one! NOW!:p
Combat-wombat
April 28, 2003, 08:05 PM
I know we're all gun nuts here, but it just seems a little strange to call a gun "cute". However, if I had to call a gun "cute" it'd probably be a Glock 26.
bpisler
April 28, 2003, 08:19 PM
My one and only "cute" gun was a old nickle plated Smith 38/44 with fake pearl grips.
CWL
April 28, 2003, 08:39 PM
All my guns look pretty macho, except for my Kel-Tec P32.
That's purdy cute.
firestar
April 28, 2003, 08:43 PM
My Kel-Tec P-32 is "cute" but my Walther PP .32 is pretty.:D
Stevie-Ray
April 28, 2003, 10:41 PM
I know we're all gun nuts here, but it just seems a little strange to call a gun "cute". However, if I had to call a gun "cute" it'd probably be a Glock 26. Thank you, I agree. I've even called mine cute. So has my wife and a few friends. Guess they're used to seeing more "macho" guns. My PT-22 has a real cuteness factor. Aside from being a .22, that tip-up barrel always gets a "cute" from somebody.
Tamara
April 29, 2003, 12:18 AM
There's no real word to describe either the Walther P22 or the Ruger Bearcat except "cute", actually. :uhoh:
(...and I like my cute Bearcat, too. It looks like one of those cap guns we had as kids, except it actually shoots. :cool: )
cool45auto
April 29, 2003, 05:31 PM
I've been wanting one for a while also. I would have to agree it and my P32 are "cute". So much so my fiance hasn't let go of my P32 since our last range session!
cadfael
April 29, 2003, 05:36 PM
I hate to admit it, but I think that my PM9 is aesthetically pleasing.
Adam
cratz2
April 30, 2003, 01:07 AM
Well, I don't own a Walther and I don't really own a decent 22 pistol (Marvel-equipped 1911 aside) so I might just have to buy one of those. My local dealer has one of those that comes with two barrels as well but I think it's either green or black.
Cute gun. ;)
LightningLink
May 6, 2003, 05:36 PM
I got out this weekend to give the new P22 a test drive. As mentioned in my first post, it came with both one -A and one non-A magazine although I could not tell the difference except for the part number and the pinky rest.
I used 4 different types of .22 ammo:
* Federal bulk-pack.
* Winchester Super-X.
* Remington bulk-pack.
* Old Remington lead-bullet that is probably 20-30 years old.
Firing somewhere between 200-300 rounds, all ammo types fed, fired and ejected flawlessly with both magazines. Most rounds were fired with the 5" barrel as I only put a couple magazines through the 3.4" barrel. The old Remington stuff had a tendency to spit burning powder, but it did that in my Ruger Mk II as well.
Shooting from a bench-rest at 10 yards, I was able to put 10 rounds in a 2.25" group. Not bad at all compared to the 1.25" group I got from my Ruger Mk II. Although the Ruger is definitely more accurate and has a much better trigger, the P22 isn't bad at all for a "plinker" type pistol. I'll be interested to hear if anyone finds that disabling the magazine safety improves the trigger pull like it does on some other semi-autos.
If there's anything I don't like it's this:
1) Trigger will need to break in some more to be smoother. It's not horrible, but not great either, just okay.
2) I need to watch those hex-screws that hold the compensator on. They DO work loose after a while.
Over all it's a great little pistol! Aside from the two things I didn't like, I had a blast shooting it.
:cool: LL :cool:
doublebarrel
May 6, 2003, 08:23 PM
Now that was first baby! The P22 was my very first handgun, actually very first firearm at all. I fell in love with the look, couldn't stop fondling her, don't konw why:D
But it shoots like crap, that is to be nice. I had jams with all Wally World cheap 550/500 round bulk packs (in comparison, my currenty 22s, Ruger 22/45 and 10/22, eat those cheap ammo without a hiccup). The mag pops out on its own during firing, the barrel nut came loose after a while(I had the short 3.4" version), and one of the roll pins near the safety kept creeping out under recoil.
So, had to let her go...
Darrin
May 6, 2003, 08:56 PM
LightningLink,
That thing is crap and you will not want to be seen with it in person. You should have gotten the black one.
Tell you what, since we're all friends here, I'll trade you my black P22 for your's. That way you won't be made fun of in public with a "cute" gun.
Just kidding with ya. :D :rolleyes: :uhoh: I love my P22, (short barrel only). Hopefully, you won't have to ship yours off to be "worked on." Periodically with mine, the slide will get caught on the hammer. This prevents the next shell to load completely. Also, the slide will catch when dropping the slide on a fresh mag. A little tap on the slide sets it in place as well as pulling the hammer down just a bit further.
I've read others here who praised his/her P22s after having "Walther America" tweak 'em a bit. I emailed Walther America last night for instructions on sending mine to be worked on.
Congrats on the score! You'll love it! (But, if you don't love it, can I have it? :uhoh: ) ;)
Shane
May 7, 2003, 01:40 AM
My 2 guns in which I classify as "cute" our an NAA Mini revolver, and a Beretta Cheetah.
I'd eventually also like to add a Sig Sauer P232 and a Beretta Jetfire into my "cute" collection.
Tacblack
May 7, 2003, 02:27 AM
They are "cute" looks like a fun plinker.
Let us know how it runs. Heard the early models had some extracting problems. Thanks
David S
May 7, 2003, 07:49 AM
i have been thru two of them, the first i got jammed so much it was unshootable. i sent it to walther america, and they sent me a new gun. this second one has yet to jam, its a keepier.............this is a good gun to teach people with because its set up like larger cal guns, its easy to go from the P22 to say the p99........the set up is similar.
Bullet Bob
May 7, 2003, 05:59 PM
I bought a New Model Ruger Bearcat just because it was so darn cute - I don't even care for single actions very much!
modifiedbrowning
May 8, 2003, 01:19 AM
I want a P99 9mm in the Grey color. Pretty please?:(
arinvolvo
May 8, 2003, 03:03 AM
This was my first cute gun, and I happen to love it:
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10-Ring
May 8, 2003, 03:40 PM
Very cute indeed ;)
blue86buick
May 8, 2003, 09:42 PM
I start a new job on monday, and I'm almost counting the days until I have enough money to get a 3.4" barrel P22. :)
Then, counting again until I can afford a P99. :D
LightningLink - could you post a picture of both of the magazines laying on their side? I'm curious of the difference between the fingergrip and the normal mag.
twolf
June 22, 2003, 03:11 AM
It's cute(1) how people refer to their cute(2) guns being cute(3). That said, I think that gun is right cute(4), yep right cute(5).
I wanted to say cute(6) alot more times than I got to say cute(7) but since I couldn't think of anything cute(8) to say, I thought I would just sit over here and look at your cute(9) gun.
Now ain't that cute(10).
:evil:
usnavymasterchief
June 22, 2003, 10:28 AM
SHANE, I have a really "cute" Beretta Nickle plated Jetfire that is in like new condition that I'll sell for $200. It has 2 mags and an Uncle Mikes IWB holster. It was my wife's purse gun which we no longer need. I live in Florida, if you're interested drop an email.
blue86buick
June 26, 2003, 10:42 AM
Shane: We must have similar tastes...the NAA revolvers facinate me, and I've wanted one since seeing them at K's Merchandise. Same with the Beretta. And lately....that P232 is looking reaaaally good to me...and heck, that P22 is soo cute! :D
10-Ring
June 26, 2003, 09:35 PM
I use to use my son as my excuse for the "cute" stuff I bought. Now, I understand my problem :rolleyes:
Congrats on the P22 ;)
Shweboner
June 27, 2003, 03:29 AM
Maybe Im crazy, and I cant find my catalog.... but last time I checked the MSRP on the P22 was like $239... for the 3.4" bbl model....
Why are they going for so much? I see them for $350 all over the place! It pisses me off, how can they go so far above MSRP?
:cuss: Okay, Im done
~Brian
twolf
June 27, 2003, 09:22 AM
Brian:
The MSRP is a suggested price, a retailer can sell anything they want for whatever price they want. Last year when the .17HMR came out thye were selling for $200 - $400 dollars over MSRP and if you wanted one then that was the price.
I do not agree with this philosophy or policy. I have always charged 10% over invoice. However, I can tell you form my competition here in Virginia, it is done all the time. I have a guy down the road from that offers "financing" and people gravitate to him for that reason. He also has a Glock 17 in his store with a price tag of $750. His actual cost of this weapon is around $500. This same individual also charges $50 for transfers.
My advice, when you find someone doing that, do not buy from them. Find an honest FFL and when you do, use them.
blue86buick
June 27, 2003, 10:13 AM
Local prices on P22:
K's Merchandise - 349 for 5"
Gander Mountain - 249 for 3.4", 299 for 5"
Fin and Feather (local chain) - 239 for 3.4", 289 for 5"
Scheels All Sports - 249 for 3.4", 299 for 5"
at a recent gunshow i saw them as low as 215 i think (3.4"), but i got something else instead.
Hank Zudd
June 27, 2003, 03:37 PM
was meaning to post this anyway. Bought my 3.4" in NoCal for about $300. (another dealer had it for $240-oh well!) took it to the range a couple of weeks ago & fed at least 10 types of .22 ammo thru it; all worked good except winchesters. Seemed to like PMC the best; fed & shot subsonics ok also. Grouped about 2-3" @ 10yds off a bench (PMC) even with me not shooting much for awhile. Ranges are few & far beteween in Nocal-the one in my area has been closed for the last few years due to safety violations which are being corrrected-quickly I hope. Yes, a fun little gun to shoot & I feel worth the price. Actually bought it for my wife's house gun. pm
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