I want a Double barreled "pirate" pistol.


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Weird Guy
June 3, 2006, 01:48 AM
There is a pistol that I would love to own. Do you have a copy of Pirates of the Carribean? Watch the bald headed skeleton pirate, the friend of the tall guy with the false eye. He is packing a double barrel pistol (Johnny Depp even puts both fingers in the muzzles at one point).

I asked this a couple of months ago, but nobody was able to come up with a good source for a pistol like that. Does anybody know anyone who builds their own pistols?

I would imagine you would make your own wood handle to hold a small caliber lefty and righty pistol barrels and locks side by side on it.

http://www.morrismilitaria.com/pics/fa014.jpg

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Third_Rail
June 3, 2006, 01:53 AM
Work is slow - still assembling parts. :)

arcticap
June 3, 2006, 03:11 AM
Here's a .73 caliber (12 gauge) Howda pistol someone recently built.



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/MrMisanthrope/IMG_1909.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/MrMisanthrope/IMG_1908.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/MrMisanthrope/PiC.jpg

Cosmoline
June 3, 2006, 03:27 AM
The Howdahs are awesome. I really wish someone would start making new ones or kits. They'd be useful for bear, and as muzzleloaders you don't have to worry about NFA barrel length issues.

Weird Guy
June 3, 2006, 05:37 AM
I want it in flintlock myself.

sheepdip
June 3, 2006, 12:12 PM
Not a flintlock but getting there:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=49759568

If you find one let me know, YAAAARRR

4v50 Gary
June 3, 2006, 07:17 PM
Guys, any number of black powder gun builders can assemble one for you. Pick up a copy of MuzzleBlasts or Muzzle Loader magazine and there's a listing of gunsmiths. AmericanLongRifle has numerous builders there and you can ask there which gunsmiths will do it for your (many can, but some prefer rifles).

sheepdip
June 3, 2006, 07:29 PM
4v50 Gary

Thanks I never thought of that.

Third_Rail
June 3, 2006, 07:44 PM
As another aside, Jule will also build one to your exact specifications.

Dr.Rob
June 4, 2006, 07:22 PM
Who built the Howdah? Looks like a Pedersoli shotgun re-interpreted. At $600 for a new shotgun, that's a pricey piece.

Third_Rail
June 4, 2006, 08:46 PM
$500 for a kit, $400 for a used shotgun if you shop around. Dings in the wood, etc. don't matter too much when that's your goal. :)

arcticap
June 4, 2006, 09:52 PM
The maker's name is "Roy" and the pictures were posted by the buyer. Both are members who post on muzzle loading forum dot com.

jayjay
May 30, 2007, 10:42 PM
I have a Italian 10 guage double caplock that I have been thinking about making into a howda pistol. My only worry is that in firing the second charge would be upset because of recoil. Any thoughts?

Plink
May 31, 2007, 05:14 PM
There's always this one. http://http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/PDBC.SHTML

Good looking gun and the price isn't bad. If you want to spend a bit more for a real gem, Pedersoli has introduced one that is going to be imported shortly. It comes in dual rifled .50's, dual smoothbore 20 gauges, or a combo with one barrel of each.

Jamie C.
May 31, 2007, 05:21 PM
I think I know how it got it's name:
"Howda ya hang on to that when you fire it?"

Too much pistola for me. I'll stick to something a little smaller, that has less chance of jumping over my shoulder, or bashing me between the eyes, because I've somehow screwed up and fired both barrels at the same time. :eek::uhoh:


J.C.

Carl N. Brown
May 31, 2007, 05:54 PM
"howda" is the platform on the back of an elephant
where hunters rode while hunting tigers.

The howda pistol was often a cartridge gun, solid
bullet, rifled barrel, but obviously resembles a
shotgun pistol or AOW. A muzzleloading pistol
with "primitive ignition system" (flintlock or cap)
made from a muzzleloading shotgun replica would
not have NFA problems according to the last ATF
publication I saw on the subject (a cartridge shotgun
or a modern 209 primed muzzleloader would be a NFA
problem as in Form 1 to build into a SBS). There is no
reason a howda pistol with a rifled barrel could not be
made and sold as a conventional handgun.

While the classic howda pistol was double barreled
some were four barreled.

As for the second charge and recoil, I have heard of
users of muzzleloading double barrel shotguns taking
the precaution of reseating the charge of the second
barrel after firing the first (something one would do
only after decapping the second nipple). Even with a
bulleted charge and a smoothbore muzzleloading pistol,
recoil could unseat the second charge (might be one
reason why double barrel muzzleloading pistols are
so uncommon).

ArmedBear
May 31, 2007, 05:57 PM
Middlesex is promising a flintlock soon. Waitlist started.

http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/NEWpistol.shtml

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