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Ixnay_registray
June 8, 2006, 07:15 PM
Ok, I have this 22 that is not a bolt action or a lever action or an auto, or quite frankly, nothing that I have never seen before. it is a single-shot made in Germany that has a firing mechanism that folds up and away to allow you to insert another round. it also ejects the spent cartridge when you flip it up. when you fold the thingy down you ahve to pull straight back and latch a dowel over the seer. The stock has a steel buttplateand very light checkering on the grip. It;s broken off just in front of the trigger so I dont know about checkering on the forearm. I know the discription is ****ty but I will try and get some pictures posted today yet.

there is a stamp on the top of the action that looks like a 1 inside but a little to the rear of a much larger S. on top of the barrel are the words Deutche Werk Werke Beruft (I think the last word might be wrong). Just behind the firstr stamp I mentioned there is " Mod. 1" stamped into the steel.

Sorry for the strange discription. It's just that I have been drinking and my thoughts arent exactly cohesive.

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Jim Watson
June 8, 2006, 08:15 PM
Does the trademark look like the ones on this Ortgies pistol?
http://www.gunsworld.com/gun_pistols/ortgies_us.html

If so you have a Deutsche Werke single shot .22 rifle. Probably made sometime between 1900 and 1930. The odd action is kind of the last refinement of the Flobert Warnant system which was one of the first "modern" breechloaders.

Ixnay_registray
June 8, 2006, 09:47 PM
yep, thats it. here is a pic of the action and one of the logo.

Any idea waht it's worth. I want to replace the stock and fix the spring so that it smiteth the primer a bit harder. If I use anything but Federal ammo it sometimes needs four wacks to get it going. If I use Remington ammo it often wont fire at all, but i dont want to do much if it would decrease in value. Although I really cant see myself selling it.

Jim Watson
June 8, 2006, 09:58 PM
Not real valuable in that condition. Just because a gun is old does not mean it is valuable. A real fixer-upper.

Jim K
June 12, 2006, 09:08 PM
I have gone through some old catalogs and can't find anything exactly like that, though there are quite a few with the same general type of action. Most of them have hammers, though, not strikers.

The value of those guns, as Jim W. says, is not very high, even in perfect condition. They sold for around $2-3 at at time when a Winchester 1892 was $11, and were intended as boys' rifles for plinking.

You might be able to replace the spring fairly easily, but I am afraid replacement or extensive repair of the stock would cost far more than the gun is worth, even assuming you could get a stockmaker to work on it. Needless to say, there are no parts available; any parts would have to be made.

The old gun was intended for the old copper case ammunition, which is why it won't ignite modern ammo with its cases made of hard brass. Also, modern ammo is higher power than that rifle was intended for; it probably won't "blow up", but every shot strains the old breech system. I recommend you consign that little rifle to collection status and buy a newer gun for shooting.

Jim

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