[rtl]

Looking for either a .44 spl or .45 acp for pocket carry. Would love to find a Taurus 445 in .44 spl, but haven't been able to after a couple years of looking. Their 2" 455 would work after bobbing the hammer and replacing the grips, but those seem to have dried up as well. Not sure I want a 3" 1911 and derringers, while fun, aren't really what I'm looking for here either.

So what does that leave me to consider - G36, Taurus's single stack Millenium, AMT Backup..... Any other recommendations?

Appreciate it.

Thanks,
rt

[MCgunner]

An old Charter Arms Bulldog???? Actually, doesn't have to be that old...


http://www.gunblast.com/Bulldog_Pug.htm

[rtl]

That's the revolver I keep coming back to, seems to be the only one left n that category. If I could find after market grips that are a little smaller I'd probably give that more consideration. Kind of thinking semi for a slightly thinner profile but still exploring options. An all steel Kahr on the MK frame in .45 would be perfect, if they made such a beast.

[Car Knocker]

I pocket carry a Kimber Ultra Carry in a pocket holster by Eric at hbeleatherworks.com. I've put a couple of thousand rounds through it without a bobble and am pretty comfortable with its reliability.

Edit: You can see a couple of pictures of this rig at the bottom of page 7 in the customer pictures on Eric's site.

[1 old 0311]

Saw a Bulldog last week at a Gun Shop for like $255.00? P.M me if you want the details.


Kevin

[Ohen Cepel]

Is the 455 Taurus's .45LC? If not, that would be an option. However, they seem to have dried up also.

Hmmm. Maybe a SIG 245? Or the small Glock single stack (36 I think). I like the SIG or Glock since you won't have the locked/cocked carry issue, wouldn't want cocked/locked in my pocket.

Didn't Para Ord make a compact? Would be worth a look.

[1 old 0311]

Para WartHawg?

Kevin

[Biker]

Hey Kev...

My main carry gun is a Taurus 450 (45LC). At 17 oz or so, it's easy to carry and pretty easy to shoot. I have considered bobbing the hammer but so far I'm undecided.

Biker

[MCgunner]

Biker, you ankle carry, right? I wouldn't bob the hammer for ankle carry. In fact, only time I'd consider that is on a dedicated pocket revolver. I kinda like being able to shoot single action and on the Uncle Mike's ankle holster I have, the hammer spur is needed for the retaining strap. You must have a better rig, though, no strap retention?

One thing that sorta bothers me about hammer bobbing is the loss of mass in the hammer. Be my luck I'd bob the thing and start getting light hammer strikes. Murphy rules my life.:banghead:

[Biker]

Yup MCgunner, that has been what has stopped me from bobbing the hammer on the 450 along with the fact that I use it for a woods gun too.

I have an old Charter Arms 38 I bobbed the hammer on and it's great for pocket carry (no prob with light primer strikes), but I'm loath to do it to my 45LC. Wish I had two of 'em.:)

Biker

[rfurtkamp]

My answer to this one when I was considering it was the S&W 296, now of course discontinued.

It's lightweight, reasonably accurate, and does what it promises.

I've since retired it to specialty duty as the thickness of the cylinder got in the way for pocket carry (a problem I have even with 442s and their ilk) and switched to a Sig 239 for a BUG.

http://robert.furtkamp.com/guns/airweight44spec.jpg

[marshall3]

You need a Semmerling in 45ACP for pocket carry. They cost a lot.
:)
http://www.amderringer.com/lms.html

[magsnubby]

Check out the boot grips on Charter's Undercover. They'll interchange with the Bulldog. They might be what you're looking for.

www.charterfirearms.com

[Ohen Cepel]

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=204963

VinnyT just posted a .41 Snub Taurus on this site. Might be an option for you.

Wish I was close to him, I would take the lot!

[Bobo]

The Cobra Patriot 45 is fairly small, very inexpensive, and has a pretty good track record:
http://www.cobrapistols.com/products/doubleaction.htm

[muscles]

how about the taurus 745 pro? 7 rounds of 45 acp at just over 20 ounces. the new ones are da/sa. i just picked one up and cant wait to get out tomorrow to shoot it.

its a bit too heavy for pocket carry (for me), but i think itll be a great ccw. im hoping it'll replace my hk uspc 45.

[aryfrosty]

I have tried a few .38s and .25s and always felt a little underprepared...I have carried my AMT BackUp .45ACP DAO for several years and I have a very good feeling with it. I stippled the front and back straps. There are a couple of good places to buy mags for it. (5-rounders, so get plenty). I found out the hard way how easily it can shed grip screws, so Loctite those guys before you practice. With 1 up and 5 ready rounds I believe I'm prepared.

[rockstar.esq]

I have a Taurus 445 ch in .44spl. Its got a 2" barrel, bobbed hammer and its nickel plated. To be honest I've never tried to pocket carry with it mostly because it weighs enough that it would likely wear out my pocket! I will say that I had a few problems getting it to work with factory ammo. Two trips to Taurus (one on their dime) got the problem solved. Although they deny it, the hammer has a heavier spring on it than it used to. They also replaced my original hammer with a locking type hammer. I really like the gun and the way it handles but I have had absolutely no luck finding holsters that are worth buying. The only one I've found thus far is a ballistic nylon generic one but it only works if the holster is clamped between my belt and pants. I bought my 445ch off the discontinued discount rack at a local gun store. They had the .45 LC version with some kind of lightweight frame. I was considerably thicker than the .44spl and the trigger felt gritty in comparison to the .44spl. If you do obtain a .44spl I'd heartily recommend handloading your practice fodder because the components for .44 mag are generally interchangable.

[aryfrosty]

I realize that what works for one guy won't always do so for the next...But if I may suggest: I have long modified my right front trouser pockets. Buy the replacement ends for pockets at Wally*World, or wherever you like, and sew them on the bottom outside of your pants pocket. Then buy a decent pocket carry holster...Uncle Mike's is good off the shelf stuff...or Bob Mika makes really nice ones. ( I have two of his). I've always found that if you have a solid pocket and a good holster the handgun won't flop around so much.

[HiWayMan]

S&W 625-10. .45acp

http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/pr5341.htm


S&W 625-11 .45 LC

http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/pr5969.htm

[aryfrosty]

If you carry anything in a pocket long enough to wear out the end of the pocket you'll be glad of a protector. If you never wear out pockets you aren't carrying as much as you should.

[TexAg]

S&W 625-11 .45 LC

Drooooooool...
Only $1129.95?? :what:
lil too rich for my blood.

I carry a Glock 36, perfect package of .45ACP in my opinion.

[5Wire]

Para Ordnance 6.45 single stack .45ACP 3-inch Bbl.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/5Wire/976689920-1.jpg

[aryfrosty]

5 Wire, that's the one I should have got when I bought my C-7.45 LDA. I like the 7.45, but I ran into a gentleman at the range with one like yours and I knew I'd messed up once I fired his. The C-7.45 has a commander style hammer spur and what looks like 3 feet of beavertail. Too much.

[5Wire]

aryfrosty, we're kind of in the same boat, then. I should have sold my 12.45 LDA instead of selling the smaller 6.45 LDA. The 6.45 is a great carry gun. The 12.45/Carry 12 is OK but the 645 is a better one for concealment.

(The picture I posted was from a member of this or another forum; if I remembered who, I'd credit the photo.)

[nitesite]

Like the Para 6.45 but damn that thing has some heavy ass springs to overcome the light slide weight.

What about a Glock 30? Or a G29?

I also like the Taurus .44Spl snubbie. It has a very acceptable trigger but shooting hollow points is unnecessary. Thru that gun I would load LSWCs.

[Biker]

Through my Taurus 450 (45LC) I shoot LSWC handloads for woods or winter carry. I have faith in them.;)

Biker

[aryfrosty]

5 Wire....I believe I have decide a way to fix my mistake. I am looking for a gunsmith to take the spur off the 7.45 and either trim the grip safety similar to the 6.45 or just replace it with the same one.

[5Wire]

aryfrosty I believe I have decide a way to fix my mistake...Good luck on that.

[thebucket]

I remember Charter Arms (or whatever the company is called now) made a 44 Spl snubby and a few other revolvers. Does anyone know what their current quality of manufacturing is? That might be an option if they're any good. I'm interested in them myself but don't have any solid info on them.

[FireBreather01]

I've had a 44 spl Charter Bulldog Pug for years - I put a bobbed hammer on it and have carried it my pocket without a problem. Of course, it has to be the right pair of pants as its a tad heavy and prints nicely in tight pair of jeans! That said, in the right set-up it works beautifully. I know Charter has a spotty rep but that old Bulldog has served me quite well over the years - it's still one of my favorites!

[Whirlwind06]

I have a new Charter Arms .38 undercover. For the price it is not a bad gun. They still have the .44 spl in thier line up. I'm hoping that they will come out with a .45 apc on the same frame.

[roo_ster]

I bought mine when they first came out.

Nowadays, you can get one used for ~$250 'round here.

Searching auctionarms.com, the most somebody paid for one in the last 90 days is $370, while some fellow bought one for $273 that included 3 mags & a spiffy aluminum pistol case.

I tried various HP rounds when I first bought it, but settled on hardball, as I doubt most JHPs would expand.

I point shoot very well with it & get COM out to 10 yards.

[rtl]

Whirlwind06
"I'm hoping that they (Charter) will come out with a .45 apc on the same frame."

I asked them that very question a couple weeks ago. I said now that Taurus discontinued their 2" 455 and most will not pay S&W custom shop prices, they'd be the only (reasonably priced) manufacturer of a snub .45 acp revolver and suggested they do so on the Bulldog frame. Whereas they responded to my second email regarding the Bulldog grip and hammer (interchangable with the Undercover) the morning of the next business day, I did not receive an answer to my question regarding a .45 acp on the Bulldog frame. I may ask again. Who knows...could happen.

[5Wire]

...get on target for you at ranges beyond 10 ft. which the smaller P-10 just won't do.Oops. Maybe you traded too quickly. The 3-inch Bbl Paras may take a bit of getting used to but unless you had a dud, I'd say some more trigger time would have changed your mind on that.

I had the same initial impression with my 6.45 LDA which is a single stack (LDA) version of the P-10/Warthog and also going from 4-in Bbl revolvers to snubbies. Shorter sight radius through me off until I got used to it. You probably couldn't punch 2-inch groups at 25 yards but you could definitely do 2-inches at 7 yards and paper plates at fifty feet. Excellent personal defense gun.

[Plink]

RTL, look around for a used Rossi 720. They're a good .44 special with a 3 inch barrel. I've had one for a while now and I really like it for what it is. It's a lot stronger than the Charter Arms and sells in the same price range.

[tegemu]

Like Car Knocker. I carry a .45 ACP Kimber Ultra Carry II in an Andrews Pocket holster. It's approx. the same size as a Charter Undercover .38 but has more firepower and rounds. I have no problems with concealing and drawing it.

[rich52us]

I'm considering getting a 9 rd flush mag and a Jagwear pocket holster and trying carrying it in the front right pocket of Docker style pants. I also have some Columbia brand pants with an extra zipper pocket behind the regular right front pocket. I currently carry a Kel Tek P-11 that way and would love to be able to carry my G 30 that way. I'll let you know how it works, or not lol.

[Hardcorehunter]

I have a Ruger Alaskan. They come in .454 or .480. I have the .480. That would be my choice. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e43/buggirlboone/rugeralskan.jpg

[jdmb03]

I just picked up a Rossi 720 covert model on gunsamerica for $275. They do pop up for sale from time to time.

[aryfrosty]

I seem hung up on the AMT BAckUp DAO, but wanted to share what I have found about the item. High Standards is making them again. Not just parts, but guns as well. They have them in: 9mm; .40S&W; .45ACP; .45WinMag and .30 cal Carbine. They might appear ugly but I really like mine.

[roo_ster]

I think if I shot a DAO AMT in .45WinMag I would probably cry like a little girl. :eek:

[fastbolt]

The S&W CS45 is an excellent subcompact .45 ACP pistol, with a 3.25" barrel, 6+1 capacity and TDA (DA/SA) operation in the standard model.

[aryfrosty]

I can't imagine firing a .45Win mag...OR a .30 Carbine round. I know the S&Ws are good, but they're having to win my trust back lately. I bought 2 M-645s and carried and trusted them. Also I have a M-39-2 and an old blue M-59. But the late versions of semi auto Smiths don't do it for me. Their Sigma series is, to me, no more than a copied Glock. Their CS-9s and CS-45s I have seen all scream, "I'm not a Chief's Special!" I wish they more respect for their own traditions.

[warwagon]

Another vote for the CS45,I have oneand love it! Accurate,reliable, and easy to cary.