[Roadwild17]

I'm interested in buying and AR or building one. I have just about decided on getting a RRA Elite CAR A4 with the RRA Dominator EOTech Mount. Anyway, a buddy says he knows someone who bought about 300 pre-ban DMPS lowers with the intention of selling them for about $250 a peace when 2015 came around. Anyway, with the "sunset" of the 94 law they’re not worth what he thought they would be so he wants to get rid of them for about $50 a pop.

Anyway, if I buy all the parts and build it myself, theres gona be a $230 difference between buying the complete gun and building myself.

So, Is $50 for a 10-15 year old striped receiver worth it?

How hard is it to take off the front handgard and replace with rails?

Your supposed to use a special "telestock tool" to tighten a telestock, can you use anything else?

There’s also the "complete rifle kit" that comes with everything but the striped lower, but from what I gather, the kit doesn’t come with any rear sights and options like green furniture aren’t available, is this right?

[Balddragn]

I build my AR-15 from a gun kit (olympic arms), with the help of someone who knew his way around the AR. There was a few bumps in the road, including having to lap the bolt into the reciever with jewelers rouge, but for me it was worth it.

The first clip I ran through it, the gun grouped the brass (30 rnds in a 2" circle at my 4:00) as well as the bullets (sub MOA at 200 yards, with most anything but Norinco, iron sights and much younger eyes).

I feel differently about my AR than any of my other guns.

Find someone who can give you a hand and go for it.

[ugaarguy]

Tools, parts, instructions, and help for AR type rifles are available everywhere. $50 for a lower is a good price from what I've seen. As Balddragn said, they're pretty easy to put together (my local dealer says its like a lego kit), so if the time isn't an issue I'd go for it. I think the pride of doing it yourself is beyond price.

[boonie]

You might want to let that guy know that the ban hasn't sunset in NY.

Basically, our state AWB is identical to the expired fed AWB.

Preban receivers are still valuable here.

[Balddragn]

BTW a good friend of mine would love to have the info on a $50 lower.

[Dionysusigma]

Balddragn: BTW a good friend of mine would love to have the info on a $50 lower. Thing is, it wouldn't be legal in California. IF the gun/lower receiver was there before 1994, and owned by the guy, then it's fine... but it wasn't, so it's a major no-no.

When did you build your AR? Was it fed from one 30-rd mag, or did you reload 3 times from strippers?

[Roadwild17]

So is there anything wrong with buying a reciver thats 12-15 years old?

[asknight]

I don't think so. I buy receivers and rifles that are over 100 years old and subject them to normal usage all the time.

[Ohen Cepel]

$50 for a lower is a deal. They tend to run around $125 where I am (not that I'm tracking them that closely).

[Balddragn]

Built my AR right after Patrick Purty did the school shoot up in Stockton. if memory serves that was 1989 and yes it was one 30 rnd mag.

Also my friend lives in Alabama so no prob. with Kali's gun laws.

[Bartholomew Roberts]

It depends largely on the use the receiver has seen; but considering that the U.S. military still has M16 lowers with the "XM16E1" markings lined out, I'd say that even a well-used lower that was 12-15 years old probably has a lot of life left in it (though I wouldn't pay $50 for a well-used one).

[Roadwild17]

Anyone have any sugestions for how to install a telestock without suing the special "telestock tool"?


How about changing the handgard for some nice rails later in the future?

[Bartholomew Roberts]

You'll pretty much need the telestock tool as far as I know. You should also consider using loctite or staking the retaining ring since this is a part that works loose pretty frequently if not done right. I would also consider using an aftermarket armorer's wrench (like the DPMS version) that has the tool built in rather than use the GI wrench that doesn't provide much leverage.

[timuchin]

It's $3 from M&A. Or, put blue loctite on the threads, tighten it by hand, and then stick a pin punch in the hole for the wrench and rotate it a little bit by tapping with a hammer.