Anyone Know how to get Cosmoline off?
MrBigStuff
June 14, 2006, 05:19 PM
I just bought a Yugoslavian SKS. Beautiful gun to add to my SKS collection. However, I didn't know that Cosmoline would be this incredibly hard to remove. The entire gun is bathed in it both inside and out. What do I have to do? Any help is appreciated and thank you.
Edit: Wasn't sure whether or not (C)cosmoline was a name brand or a generic term- so I capitalized the word. This edit is for the non-contributing babies with the annoying "jokes".
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Smith357
June 14, 2006, 05:28 PM
Field strip it and set the parts out in the sun and let them get warm, you could also put some of the smaller parts in a 150 degree oven. After a good wipe down then use Ed's Red. The acetone in ER cuts through the cosmoline with little effort.
BobCat
June 14, 2006, 05:33 PM
Mineral spirits and kerosene also cut cosmoline very well.
I would not use these on the stock unless you are going to refinish it, but the metal parts will not be harmed at all.
These are flammable liquids - you know that, and I apologise for mentioning it, but no harm in reminding you to handle them safely - no insult intended!
loadedround
June 14, 2006, 05:36 PM
Two ways, neither of them pleasant. First is to disassemble outside and wash with a paint brush and a basin of gasoline. The second is the way the army cleaned new Garands and carbines packed in cosmoline, and that is to boil them in 55 gal cans(less wood stock) witn an immersion heaters. TCE works grat also if you have access to it. Be warned however that it is a known carcinogen and is illegal to dispose of in a sanitary sewer system or storm drain. P.S. Lighter fluid(Naphtha) works great also but you will net many cans of it. Don't use the bath tub like I did the first time, they're harder to clean then the rifle! LOL
Bruce333
June 14, 2006, 05:51 PM
I just bought 2 of those Yugo's.
I used kerosene in an open top oil drain pan, and one of those disposable paint brushes, on all the metal parts. Comes right off, no effort and just a few minutes time.
I put the wood in the oven at 150* (I used an infared heat gun to make sure), the heat melts the cosmo, just take it out every 10-15 minutes and wipe it off.
Sleeping Dog
June 14, 2006, 05:51 PM
For the metal, hot water and Simple Green cleaner will get most of it. For the nooks & crannies, I use a spray can of brake cleaner. Brake cleaner removes all oil, so I grease it when I'm done. The metal is the easy part.
Wood is a major pain. Heat helps, but there will always be cosmoline in the wood, unless you have one of the varnished stocks, like a Russian gun.
A coat of shellac will help seal in the grease, then proceed with whatever finish you want, I usually use Tung oil.
Regards.
06
June 14, 2006, 06:07 PM
I use gasoline but you have to be VERY VERY careful of sparks. Use a plastic trash can or bucket and non metallic brushes. My wifes plastic sink brush works good--but don't tell her. Do not breathe the fumes. The gasoline will remove all the oil in the metal so be ready to reapply a coat. I use Ether(starting fluid) to finish cleaning off the dirty gasoline. It takes the oil out of your skin also so rubber gloves will help. There is a warning that skin exposure is dangerous so please do not use unprotected hands. Btw-good selection on the rifle. A real fun shooter.
MrBigStuff
June 14, 2006, 06:09 PM
Looks like I have some work to do!
Eleven Mike
June 14, 2006, 06:12 PM
Anyone Know how to get Cosmoline off?
THR is not the proper arena for such personal questions. Please send him a private message for such intimate matters.
MrBigStuff
June 14, 2006, 06:17 PM
Hopefully your joking...judging by your Location listed in your profile ( which says " Right Behind You") you sound like the kind of guy who uses Cosmoline for something other than firearm protection:D !
Justin
June 14, 2006, 06:28 PM
Egads.
How about we drag this one back on topic.
minuteman1970
June 14, 2006, 07:34 PM
I use kerosene, and sometimes paint thinner.
WayneConrad
June 14, 2006, 07:48 PM
Take the box that AIM sent it in :) and use tape and a knife to turn it into a gun-sized tub. Line with a single piece of extra-heavy-duty aluminum foil. Put the rifle in the tub, pour lots of kerosene in, wait a while. Come back now and then to swish kerosene around, brush globs of loosened cosmo off of parts, disassemble parts that are no longer glued together, and generally marvel at just how incredibly sticky and nasty cosmoline is and how tolerant your wife is to let you do this within a mile of your house.
When removing a part from the kerosene bath for the last time, use some Ed's Red to get that last bit of stickiness off. For parts that have cosmoline in places where the sun don't shine, use non-chloronated brake cleaner, but be careful of the paint on the grenade sight. Brake cleaner will take it right off. Learned that the hard way. Always immediately follow the brake cleaner with Ed's Red or some other oily substance, for a degreased part will rust in the blink of an eye. Learned that the hard way, too.
MidnightRambler
June 14, 2006, 07:49 PM
GOOP hand cleaner works the best. Takes the cosmoline off right away, does not damage the wood or metal parts at all, and you don't have to wear gloves if you don't want to.
mete
June 14, 2006, 07:56 PM
HEAT ! Somewhere on the internet is a design for an oven made from garbage cans and the heat source some 100 watt light bulbs. All you need is 150F which will melt off most of the cosmoline . Then you can use solvents for the remaining.
Janos Dracwlya
June 14, 2006, 07:56 PM
I'll second hot water for the metal parts. I've done three rifles in the bathtub that way. Just make sure you get the hotest water you can manage. I used dish soap, but I will probably use Simple Green or something similar next time. Dow Bathroom Cleaner (the scrubbing bubbles) or the Wal-Mart generic will clean the tub easily.
As for the stock, I've tried the oven method, but my oven is too small. I just recently got a handheld steam cleaner and I'm using that on a Yugo M-48A's stock which was really saturated. It's going to take several treatments, with time for the stock to dry in between, but it seems to be working very well. I may try the steam cleaner on the metal as well next time I get a new rifle (I'm looking for a good M-44 right now).
Ohen Cepel
June 14, 2006, 08:02 PM
Sit it in the car on a hot day, go wipe it down as needed. Cheap and easy.
I like what I'm hearing about Ed's Red. Need to mix some up myself!
Bruce333
June 14, 2006, 08:02 PM
HEAT ! Somewhere on the internet is a design for an oven made from garbage cans and the heat source some 100 watt light bulbs. All you need is 150F which will melt off most of the cosmoline .
Here it is...
http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2006/lowheatmethod2/index.asp
BusDog
June 14, 2006, 08:11 PM
Q:Anyone know how to get Cosmoline off?
A:Yes. Take her out for dinner, buy her a couple drinks and tell her you love her.The rest should come easily.
Busdog
Bruce333
June 14, 2006, 08:17 PM
Looks like we need to get the thread title changed so the juveniles will stop with the jokes....
SaxonPig
June 14, 2006, 08:39 PM
Please, for God's sake, NEVER use gasoline as solvent!!!!!!
Every year in the U.S. a couple dozen people die or are burned so badly they wish they had died by using gasoline for cleaning solvent.
No matter how well ventilated or careful you are this is just about the most dangerous thing a person can do. It's truly insane, it's so risky.
PLEASE don't ever use gasoline as solvent.
In the 1960s 54 men died in a fire started by using kerosene as solvent at a miliatry base in Arkansas. I would never use kerosene for solvent and gasoline is 10 times worse. These are fuels meant to be easily ignited. They are not to be used as cleaning solvent.
I never use any solvent when removing cosmoline from military guns, anyway. Like someone already suggested most of it will run out from being placed in the sun on a hot day. I just hang the gun pointing barrel down in a tree in the backyard and in a couple hours all it needs is to be wiped down. Put a pan under to catch the grease.
No gas, please.
Cosmoline
June 14, 2006, 08:44 PM
The answer involves kitty litter, the sun and a sealed garbage bag.
oh, you want to know how to remove the goo on rifles. I'm sorry I misunderstood.
mrmeval
June 14, 2006, 08:54 PM
1) Old way
http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting/cosmoline/index.asp
2) Easy bake oven
http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2006/lowheatmethod/index.asp
roscoe
June 14, 2006, 10:16 PM
By jimminy you people, how dare you have a sense of humor!
Eleven Mike
June 14, 2006, 10:31 PM
Take her out for dinnerThis is the only part I'm confused about. Our very own Cosmoline is a man, correct?
:confused:
jrou111
June 14, 2006, 10:35 PM
Leave it in the box and stick in on the bar-b-que grill.
-note-
This is a joke.
Use brake parts cleaner, it evaporates quickly too.
redneckrepairs
June 14, 2006, 10:46 PM
as gooped up as my last sks was i am considering day laborers from near the home depot myself LOL
Sven
June 15, 2006, 01:17 AM
I've used a wood burning stove, cotton cloth, and lots of sweat and time.
Lather (rotate in front of your stove).
Rinse (wash off the gunk).
Repeat.
Cosmoline
June 15, 2006, 02:00 AM
I've used a wood burning stove, cotton cloth, and lots of sweat and time.
OK, this thread as gone too far.
Sunray
June 15, 2006, 02:30 AM
Cosmoline is just thick petroleum jelly. Any degreaser will work. However, mineral spirits is(are?) the best solvent. It's cheap, easy to get by the gallon and won't burst into flames with a spark. Yes, it's flammable, but nowhere near so as gas or other FUELS.
Take the bolt out and drop the whole thing, lock, stock and barreled action, into a vat of it and leave it there for 24 hours. Then brush off the cosmoline with a plastic brush and more mineral spirits. Then clean the way you clean any rifle, re-oil and put a coat of BLO on the wood. DO NOT DUMP THE RESULTING SLUDGE DOWN ANY DRAIN. IT'S TOXIC.
No heat, no ovens required. And most certainly no gasoline or kerosene.
"...I've done three rifles in the bathtub..." Thus sending heavily oil polluted water into your water system. DO NOT DUMP THE RESULTING SLUDGE DOWN ANY DRAIN. IT'S TOXIC.
MrBigStuff
June 15, 2006, 08:52 PM
I think I still have a little in the barrel but what are you gonna do. Either that or it's bore is all up!:D Got it for 200 ("unissued") with an array of " gear". Also, I apologize to everyone for the sarcasim in my post---jokes are what keeps this forum upbeat. Eleven Mike, didn't catch your reference until I thought about it! Good one! Take back my insult. Everyone stay:cool:
WayneConrad
June 15, 2006, 11:23 PM
I'm glad you got it done. Ain't that stuff something else?
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned the special treatment the SKS bolt needs. Chances are you know this already, but it's a safety matter so it's worth repeating. You are supposed to completely disassemble the bolt to make sure there is no cosmo left in it. Failure to do so can cause the pin to stick forward, causing slamfires or automatic fire.
Getting the firing pin retaining pin out can be difficult, so some folks get by without it, but it ought to be done if possible.
silverlance
June 16, 2006, 02:51 AM
geez, i've de-cosmoed 6 rifles:
4 mosin nagants (light)
1 24/47 mauser (heavy)
1 sks (heavy)
and i've got 1 more mauser on the way.
this is what i recommend if you have a yard or patio with lots of sun. go sit outside with an umbrella and a book if you don't own the place and need to guard the gun.
get a big galvanized garbage can.
strip gun, put it in there. stick a rock under one end of the can so it tilts a bit. cover with saran wrap.
just leave it like that all day. the sun will melt the cosmo off, dribble it down. then pick it up and with simple green wipes (like diaper wipes) just wipe the whole thing down. you don't even need to lube the gun much after that, it's already done for you. i like to follow up with powder blast here and there, and break free everywhere.
removing cosmo is actually pretty easy, AS LONG AS ITS WARM COSMO. if you try to remove cold cosmo you are a bloody idiot and you will be very frustrated very soon.
ps: if you really want to go poor boy lay the pieces on aluminum foil & saran wrap.
Dacoda
June 16, 2006, 03:16 AM
I've posted a responce about this in other cosmo related threads, and no one seemed to comment. The last thing I wanna do is steer someone in the wrong direction. So if anyone disagrees with this method, feel free to enlighten me.
I've used WD-40 to de-cosmo my SKS, it seemed to work pretty good. I'm not sure I'd recomment it on the stock though, since I also used WD-40 to remove linseed oil from my hands when I was refinishing a stock. However I find it odd that no one ever recommends WD-40 for removing cosmo. Is there something that I don't know?
I know that penetrating oil is bad for cleaning the firearm for maintenance, so of course after the cosmo removal, I did a normal cleaning with bore solvent and oil.
searcher6
June 16, 2006, 05:26 AM
I used Stoddard Solvent. Fairly safe stuff, in fact it's used in "Safety Clean" brand parts cleaners.
'Card
June 16, 2006, 08:06 AM
"Brett Favre and a hot tub full of thousand island dressing."
obiwan1
June 16, 2006, 11:52 AM
Huh?????:confused:
'Card
June 16, 2006, 12:45 PM
Old line from a South Park episode. Sorry. :cool:
KMBRTAC45
June 16, 2006, 01:05 PM
I've got the easiest answer yet. Do what I did, took mine to my gun shop and let the armorer clean it for me:evil: . When I went to pick it up he said he never wanted to see me again:fire: .
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