Eminem as Paladin? (Duplicate threads merged)


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Warren
June 15, 2006, 07:44 PM
This is so stupid (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13307349/).

HGWT was a very classy show. Marshall Mathers is not classy at all.

HGWT is also a great series that showcased RKBA, honor, integrity, self-reliance and the value of education.

Is there any thing about MM that fits that ideal?


I'll not watch this if they paid me.

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Preacherman
June 15, 2006, 08:04 PM
I have a dream . . .

I dream that Eminem really lives back in the days when HGWT was set, and rides into town on his horse, "rapping" away to the townsfolk in his usual way (including foul language and bad-mouthing his mother, his wife, and women in general) . . .

I dream that the good Western townsfolk hand him his needings, repeatedly, including the use of various calibers of ammo, horse- and buggy-whips, a rail, tar and feathers . . .

:D

Doug.38PR
June 15, 2006, 08:30 PM
:what: I think I am going to throw up. This MTV moron punk with his sock hat, T shirt, goofy sunglasses and baggy pants is going to play the gentleman gunfighter Jack Paladin? :barf:

Cosmoline
June 15, 2006, 08:32 PM
Cheer up. This may be the most unintentionally funny effort since "Battlefield Earth."

PlayTheAces
June 15, 2006, 08:35 PM
Before following the link and reading the article, I didn't have a clue who this guy was.

Judging from the picture of him in the article, he might make a decent Beavis. Maybe even a Butthead.

But a bounty hunter/hired gun? :D

Just can't quite see this guy replacing Richard Boone.

Course, I remember watching the original show when it was on the air, so I'm probably a bit biased. ;)

Harold Mayo
June 15, 2006, 10:57 PM
That's even worse than Joaquin Phoenix starring as John Clark in the big-screen version of Without Remorse.:barf:

AND, although most probably don't know the books, there are rumors that Ashton Kutcher might play the role of Jack in a Repairman Jack movie.:barf: :barf:

Maser
June 15, 2006, 11:17 PM
I may love rap music and love to write my own, but I have NEVER liked eminem at all. He's nothing but a punk wannabe gangster white boy who does nothing but cry about his childhood in all his songs. I thought I hated eminem before, but after clicking on that link I hate him even more. :cuss:

Zen21Tao
June 15, 2006, 11:29 PM
I must admit that HGWT was before my time. I haven't even never seen a single episode but I am aware that it is a western. I can't tell you how disgusting it is to me to see society put a rapper in the boots of a westerner/cowboy. The thought of Eminem quick drawing a cowboy revolver to shoot it "ghetto homeboy" style during a high noon showdown is amusing though. :D

mustanger98
June 15, 2006, 11:31 PM
Do ya'll realize what a Paladin is? IIRC, Paladins were one of the highest orders of knights who took great moral responsibility in their lives. Paladin wasn't so much a bounty hunter as he was a hired gun with honor and integrity in situations where both were in short supply.

Marshall Mathers is no Paladin. Their concept for this movie isn't even a western, the way the article reads.

I'll not waste my time and money on it.

Now, if it was Tom Selleck or Viggo Mortensen doing it as a western, I'd be wanting to see it.

I can't tell you how disgusting it is to me to see society put a rapper in the boots of a westerner/cowboy. The thought of Eminem quick drawing a cowboy revolver to shoot it "ghetto homeboy" style during a high noon showdown is amusing though.

I was typing while Zen21Tao was posting so I didn't see this. First off, I've read articles on movie stars who liked or didn't like horses... Richard Boone hated horses and did as little of his own riding as possible. (Somebody said that about John Wayne and he refuted it.) Second, while it's not a western they're re-making it as, the thought is somewhat amusing. Maybe he'll yank the sixgun from the waisband of his baggy pants... and they'll lose tension and fall down around his ankles.

ball3006
June 16, 2006, 11:38 AM
like they screwed up "Night Stalker"...............................no one watched it and it died a quick death...........Doesn't hollywood have any new ideas at all?.........chris3

kjeff50cal
June 16, 2006, 11:57 AM
"Whoops there goes gravity":barf: -Emnem:evil:

BryanP
June 16, 2006, 11:58 AM
After reading the description it appears that the only things it will have in common with the classic are the name of the show and maybe some of the character names.

Much like many other "remakes" of recent vintage, it can be safely ignored.

dev_null
June 16, 2006, 12:02 PM
Anyone who watches television gets what they deserve. :neener:

crazed_ss
June 16, 2006, 12:06 PM
I may love rap music and love to write my own, but I have NEVER liked eminem at all. He's nothing but a punk wannabe gangster white boy who does nothing but cry about his childhood in all his songs. I thought I hated eminem before, but after clicking on that link I hate him even more

Ummm.. Ok. If you've ever listened to any of his stuff, you'd know that eminem is not a wannabe gangster.
And the dude has talent whether you like rap music or not. He's easily one of the best rappers in recent memory.

Also.. you guys realize this is a movie right? The people in movies are what are called "actors". What you see on the screen isnt necessarily the way the person is in rifle. Actors have the ability to play different "roles".. so even though Eminem might be a reprehensible person who does disgusting rap music in real life, it is entirely possible for him to be able to pull off the "role" of a cowboy in a MOVIE

50 Shooter
June 16, 2006, 12:16 PM
At least he can still play Slim Shady! :neener:

Maybe they can get Will Smith also, seeing how great of a job he did with the Wild Wild West movie.:barf:

Tomcat1066
June 16, 2006, 12:54 PM
Do ya'll realize what a Paladin is? IIRC, Paladins were one of the highest orders of knights who took great moral responsibility in their lives.

You DO realize that the character is named Paladin, it's not his job description. ;) Going on about what a Paladin was/wasn't in knighthood is irrelevant.

Now, don't get me wrong, I think Eminem as Paladin is a bit silly at best, ludicrous at worst. But the job of an actor is to make us forget who they really are and make us think they are someone else. If he can do that, who gives a darn.

Tom

Zen21Tao
June 16, 2006, 01:20 PM
Also Coming Soon:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5664/snoopdogghighnoon8ig.jpg

psyopspec
June 16, 2006, 01:30 PM
"Whoops there goes gravity"

I myself found deeper meaning in the line "Feet fail me not.":rolleyes:

XDKingslayer
June 16, 2006, 01:35 PM
Some people fail to realize that this isn't just a remake of an old western, it's a PRESENT DAY remake.

In all honesty I can't think of a better person for this role.

Hawkmoon
June 16, 2006, 01:36 PM
You DO realize that the character is named Paladin, it's not his job description. Going on about what a Paladin was/wasn't in knighthood is irrelevant.
"Paladin" is the only name used for him in the show, but I doubt it was his real name. And there's absolutely no doubt that the show's creator(s) knew what a paladin was and chose the name accordingly, so the historical reference is hardly irrelevent. In fact, the show made a point of it ... the lyrics of the theme song were

"Have gun, will travel reads the card of a man
A knight without armor in a savage land
His fast gun for hire heeds the calling wind
A soldier of fortune is the man called -- Paladin"

And his calling card showed a picture of a chess piece ... a knight.

Richard Boone's character was definitely not a bounty hunter. He was also not a "cowboy." He lived in an apartment in San Francisco and dressed like an urban gentleman of the day. He was, if anything, sort of a 19th century private security agent. He was, literally, a "hired gun" ... but he was a hired gun with ethics and honour.

No way can M&M pull this off with any credibility. :barf: x2

gunsmith
June 17, 2006, 08:23 PM
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,19254,00.html?fdnews

Eminem Goes "Gun" Crazy

by Josh Grossberg
Jun 13, 2006, 2:00 PM PT

Semi-retired from rapping, Eminem is targeting a return to acting.

The hip-hop star, whose film debut in 2002's 8 Mile was a critical and box-office smash, is attached to star in Paramount's contemporary update of CBS' classic TV series Have Gun Will Travel, Daily Variety reports.
The artist otherwise known as Marshall Mathers III will play a modern version of the show's hero, Paladin, a professional gunslinger and West Point graduate in the original series, who, after the Civil War, lends his deadly talents out as a mercenary for hire.

The original TV western, starring Richard Boone, ran from 1957 to 1963 and was hugely popular. His black-clad bounty hunting hero carried a business card featuring the figure of a white chess knight--and bearing the transcription: "Have Gun Will Travel...Wire Paladin, San Francisco." The big-screen version will reportedly incorporate some elements from the show but will be revamped as a present-day action-adventure.

In a nod to Eminem's rabid fan base Variety reports that filmmakers might tweak the story to take place in the rapper's hometown of Detroit. An Oscar winner for Best Song for 8 Mile's "Lose Yourself," Eminem is also expected to contribute several original songs to the Have Gun Will Travel soundtrack.

The studio will develop the property via Interscope/Shady/Aftermath Films with Eminem's manager, Paul Rosenberg, music producer Jimmy Iovine, and the rapper likely sharing producer credit.

Paramount is putting Have Gun Will Travel on the fast track and hopes to roll cameras within the coming months.

The film finds the hip-hop legend at a crossroads, both personally and professionally.

After spending a month in rehab last year to kick an addiction to prescription sleep medication, Eminem remarried and then filed for divorce yet again from on-off partner Kim Mathers.

And while he is taking time off from his own recording, Eminem has been keeping himself busy in the studio producing protégé Obie Trice's sophomore album.

Warren
June 17, 2006, 08:52 PM
Dup thread. (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=205832)

HA! Beat you to it!

dhoomonyou
June 17, 2006, 09:30 PM
Note to self: Avoid this film.

Have gun will travel is the card of a man, a fast gun for hire in a savage land.

Harold Mayo
June 17, 2006, 09:34 PM
How WAS the show, anyway? Never seen an episode but I've been tempted to buy the boxed set after reading it. Also learned that a lot of writers on the show went on to do MUCH bigger things later in life and it's been implied that they did some really great work on the show.

Biker
June 17, 2006, 09:55 PM
Maser and SS...

Do not put "rap" and "music'" in the same sentence. It's an unholy thing to do.
You don't "write" rap, you talk it. Good God...

Concerning Paladin - I really enjoyed the old TV show as a kid and am dissapointed that a puke such as M&M was picked to play the role.

Biker

P-35/53
June 17, 2006, 09:56 PM
I had read that there is to be a remake of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - staring Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. That surely is another sign of the coming Apocalypse.

jamz
June 17, 2006, 10:11 PM
Maser and SS...

Do not put "rap" and "music'" in the same sentence. It's an unholy thing to do.
You don't "write" rap, you talk it. Good God...


Dont disparage other's music and they won't disparage yours. Deal? :)

I know quite a bit of really good music wit no words at all! :neener:

I'm not a big MM fan, but acting ability is not related to musical talent. Ice-T has a prety good acting gig going, Will Smith, etc.

XLMiguel
June 17, 2006, 10:42 PM
M&M - I don't at all care for his persona - I think he's a third rate punk, but as far as his work goes, he's got some cred as a poet, just like the original "True Poets". As Paladin . . . .:barf: :barf: :barf:

Rap as 'music'? I don't think so. It's its own genre. Just like most 'pop 40', 95% of it is crap, gone in two weeks, and of no consequence, artistically. But there is some that has legitimate social and artistic value. But as a honkified, over 50, white suburbanite, I can't really say much except "turn it down . . . " Idon't care to hear anyone's music from three cars away:banghead:

Biker - I hope to get up your way some time after we move west and buy you a cold, frosty one or three.

SAG0282
June 17, 2006, 11:12 PM
HGWT was a very classy show. Marshall Mathers is not classy at all.


All that needs to be said is said above.

Biker
June 17, 2006, 11:13 PM
Flip ya to see who buys the first one, Mike.:)

Biker

Waitone
June 18, 2006, 07:38 AM
Some movies are just too good to remake. Butch and Sundance is one. Posidon Adventure is another. Paladin was a far more intellectual show than is created today. Matter of fact, all the old westerns had genuine literary themes with an action backdrop. Today we get action for action's sake.

MadMercS55
June 18, 2006, 08:41 AM
Why do they have to keep murdering classics with craptastic remakes???
I loved the original series and to me this is another travesty of modern times.
Eminem as Paladin??? What will his card read? " "Have Deagle will travel, wire 8mile trailer park, Detroit, Yo" Eh. Just another movie I won't be seeing.

Snap
June 18, 2006, 09:03 AM
Hey, I've always liked Eminem on one principle: He irritates the idiot black rappers by showing you don't have to be black to be an idiot rapper. I've always believed in the right to be an utter idiot without regard to race, creed or color. I also believe in Darwinism, hopefully to eliminate said idiots whenever possible. Hell, this could be worse, they could have Kanye West or Curtis Jackson (50 Cent) as a black bounty hunter cleaning up the mean streets of Detroit or L.A. :D :what: Hehehe, I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the mental image of the uproar something like THAT would cause.....

gunsmith
June 18, 2006, 10:59 AM
But I still hate "rap"...I liked the Howard Stern movie too, but I hate his show.
M&M's video's were pretty funny and his stuff is a step above the other dung out there.
But I really hate when entertainers state their political views (except for Ted Nugent of course).

99.9% of entertainers are brain dead in regards to politics...except for the Nuge!

I spent 4 hundred on my car stereo so I can apply sonic warfare against rap thumper cars...I blast Hendrix doing the Star Spangled Banner:evil:
They hate it!

I think M&M is a pretty good actor but I hate that Hwood can not come up with original ideas.

Now marky mark as the character from "point of impact" ..that really stinks.
M&M is a class act compared to that dirtbag

Kaylee
June 18, 2006, 11:15 AM
OT

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