My Pistol Got Stolen.


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Dionysusigma
June 16, 2006, 05:08 PM
I didn't realize it until a few minutes ago when I was cleaning out my car after moving. They got a small portable CD player, too. Somewhat my fault, though, as while I was in my parents' house, I had left my car doors unlocked. :banghead: :banghead:

Pistol is an all-"blued" Bersa .380 with a good deal of use. Serial number is ******. They got all the magazines, too. :fire: :cuss: Grips are a rubber wrap-around type, like Hogues.

Picture of actual gun:


If you're in the Oklahoma City area, or routinely browse Gunbroker or other Auction sites, please help me keep an eye out for it. It's my second-favorite gun, and it was my 21st birthday gift to myself. As soon as this is posted, I'm going to file a police report and let a few local stores that buy used guns know what's going on.



This is a perfect addition to an already bad day. :mad: :fire: :banghead: :cuss: :mad: :mad:

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Nick1911
June 16, 2006, 05:12 PM
I'm sorry to hear of your loss. I hope it is recovered soon.

:(

torpid
June 16, 2006, 05:23 PM
That's unfortunate.

Try looking into some car gun lockboxes for the future.

exar
June 16, 2006, 07:06 PM
Excellent example of why I NEVER travel and let my gun leave my body for any reason. I know how you feel, I've had 3 guns stolen from me. I let my 'supposed' good buddy borrow my SIG P229 in .357. It got 'stolen' so I filed a report. Another time, someone broke into my house and stole my NEF single shot 20 ga. and my Chinese SKS with detachable 30rd mag. Didn't even mess with reporting that since the local police were not interested in finding anything that's ever been stolen from me. Kinda funny too, considering someone on a list of names that I provided to the police FOR SURE had my pistol. They were still incapable of finding a stolen handgun.

mbt2001
June 16, 2006, 07:12 PM
Well, you should always report them stolen, as I think that it is against the law not too and supposing that some jerk was found to have smoked someone and after the trace, it turned out to be your UNREPORTED gun, you just might find yourself with some law trouble...

Remember this folks, the MOST DOCUMENTED WINS... Just remember that and you will be a happy person.

ravencon
June 16, 2006, 07:45 PM
Didn't even mess with reporting that since the local police were not interested in finding anything that's ever been stolen from me. Kinda funny too, considering someone on a list of names that I provided to the police FOR SURE had my pistol. They were still incapable of finding a stolen handgun.

While I sympathize with people for their loss of property, I am flabbergasted when I read statements like this.

What exactly do you expect the police to do to recover your gun? Your list of possible suspects does not constitute probable cause for a search warrant. I suppose the police could ask them if they stole the gun but that doesn't seem likely to be productive.

Suppose the police showed up at your house and asked you if you had stolen a gun because the victim said you might be the thief. I doubt if you'd be happy with either the police or your "friend". I'm sure if they showed up with a search warrant you'd be even less happy.

Valkman
June 16, 2006, 07:49 PM
Do not listen to anyone who says not to report it - the police won't care but they will make a report and if that gun kills someone tonight you won't be responsible.

torpid
June 16, 2006, 08:32 PM
Do not listen to anyone who says not to report it - the police won't care but they will make a report and if that gun kills someone tonight you won't be responsible.

...you won't be held responsible.

.

psyopspec
June 16, 2006, 09:27 PM
Keep in mind that LEOs are not legally obligated to prevent murder, recover stolen property, or track people down. This isn't to say that officers perform these duties with various degrees of success and dedication - they do.

What law enforcement can be counted on for is showing up after a crime has occurred and taking the necessary reports. For the time of day it'll take you, it's probably worth it to eliminate any legal liability (hell, even if I wasn't found legally liable I can think of more fun things than being treated as a murder suspect), and filing the report might get you your guns back.

Dionysusigma, is there any distinguishing marks on the gun? Not that it's likely to turn up here, but if some day one of us is browsing a gun show we can be like, "hey, this might be worth double-checking with that thread to see if this is the bersa that guy lost back in 06'."

Dionysusigma
June 16, 2006, 10:16 PM
Nothing out of the ordinary, really... the pic is the best description I can give. It's just pretty heavily used, with the slide stop being quite sensitive (but then again, many Bersas are). Sights are quite reminiscent of factory Glock fixed sights, the [o style.

I called the non-emergency line, and they say that someone'll call me back.

shooter94
June 17, 2006, 12:18 AM
I feel for ya Dude...my Family has lost quite a few guns over the generations via theft&confinscation.

bratch
June 17, 2006, 12:31 AM
I'll keep an eye open.

Dionysusigma
June 17, 2006, 01:29 AM
Alright, a case has been opened with OCPD. Hopefully something'll happen. If not, then it wasn't for lack of trying... :(

I miss it already. I just can't get over the feeling, though, that someone stole something from me. :mad: I'm not a superhero or Jack Bauer or Chuck Norris or anything, but I hate being reminded of that. Dangit, I'm 22, and supposedly infinitely wise and immortal.;) :evil: And I lost one of my most favorite things. :cuss:

*sigh* At the moment, my biggest fear is that it'll be used in a crime against my parents or myself. Even though I've done everything I can, if something like that happens, I'll never forgive myself. :(

Snowdog
June 17, 2006, 01:41 AM
Sorry to hear of your loss. I can honestly say I know exactly how you feel as I had a cherry IJ-70 commercial Russian Makarov stolen from my car a few months ago (posted the event here as well). That feeling at the pit of your stomach caused by the understanding that you've likely just armed some worthless street scum will remain for a while, a couple months anyway.

Since my Makarov was stolen, I never leave a firearm in the car anymore. If I'm bringing a firearm, it's staying on me.

BTW, my Mak was never recovered... probably in the waistband of some jack***. Hope he experiences a nasty ND and loses some of his package. :fire:

Srigs
June 17, 2006, 02:36 AM
Please report it as stolen. If it shows up in a pawn shop police will have a serial number to check against and you may even get it back. ;)

WeedWhacker
June 17, 2006, 04:56 AM
Do not listen to anyone who says not to report it - the police won't care but they will make a report and if that gun kills someone tonight you won't be responsible....you won't be held responsible.
Six of one, a half-dozen of the other. Unless you're implying that, by being a victim of theft, Dionysusigma should be punished for the illegal use of a tool which was stolen from him by a criminal...

Dionysusigma
June 17, 2006, 07:35 AM
Heck, could happen. Look at how many people try suing firearms manufacturers for making a product that does its job well. :uhoh:

Srigs: Please report it as stolen... you may even get it back.Already been reported... but what's this about getting it back? Anyone know how long it could be once/if they find it? Days? Years? Should I give up hope and start looking for a replacement .380? :confused: :(

rbernie
June 17, 2006, 10:45 AM
Sorry, dude, but I seriously doubt that you'll ever see it again. :(

dartos
June 17, 2006, 10:50 AM
in 1993 I had a S&W469 stolen, I reported it to PD and insurance co. covered my loss, appx. 8 months later I got a call from the PD, they recovered my gun with many other items stolen in the area, I informed the PD I had been paid by insurance then the officer said he would like to have it, I said SURE, better in the hands of a LEO than a BG...during those 8 months I was REALLY worried someone would get shot with my gun in a crime.

gunsmith
June 17, 2006, 10:53 AM
one of them really compact 9's or even a .40.

I've heard of folks getting guns back years later.
Do keep a file of your gun purchases,sales,& losses and police reports.

espanola
June 17, 2006, 10:59 AM
Hate that it happened to you and I hope it's recovered. About 7 years ago I had been target shooting, and stopped at a store for a moment. In the few minutes I was in, someone broke into my locked truck, and took my Ruger GP100 .357, my fly fishing vest, 2 speed loaders, my best multi-tool and a box of ammo. Of course, I reported it.
About a month later the handgun and fishing vest was recovered. The thief went to court rather than take the plea bargain (he'd been charged with multiple other thefts), so the DA's office held my handgun as evidence. Because of the trial, it took all told over a year to get it back.
I completely understand the feelings though of being ripped off.
You know what hurt worse? In my fly fishing vest were over 100 hand tied flies--most tied by my dad over the years and another old fellow who has passed away. Those were never recovered. Those are what I miss.
I now have a vehicle gun safe...

bratch
June 17, 2006, 03:04 PM
You might post this on Okshooters.com as well.

AirForceShooter
June 17, 2006, 03:09 PM
a replacment is defnitely in order.
This time don't leave it in the car.

AFS

DoubleTapDrew
June 17, 2006, 03:39 PM
I feel for ya. I had a Glock stolen from my truck. I reported it and the police filed a report and brought out a K9 to search the area since I confronted the scum and he ran off (very bad idea in hindsight). I doubt I'll ever see the gun again but if I get a call it'll be a nice surprise. It was the first pistol I bought for myself. Now my protection doesn't leave my hip.
One of the things that surprised me was they asked what kind of ammo was in it. Maybe if I had said EVIL child-seeking cop-killer bullets they would have looked for it harder, haha.

freedom and guns
June 17, 2006, 03:43 PM
need to keep track of your guns in case of future theft you could buy this software http://gunblast.com/Guntracker.htm or write the serial numbers, dates you bought them, et cetera in a notebook. My grandfather made a video of his gun collection. It probably was not easy to update it, if he ever did.

Double Maduro
June 17, 2006, 04:00 PM
"Dangit, I'm 22, and supposedly infinitely wise and immortal."

Now that you know one of those assumptions isn't true, time to give the other one some serious thought.;)

I hope you get it back.

DM

Limeyfellow
June 17, 2006, 05:05 PM
While I sympathize with people for their loss of property, I am flabbergasted when I read statements like this.

What exactly do you expect the police to do to recover your gun? Your list of possible suspects does not constitute probable cause for a search warrant. I suppose the police could ask them if they stole the gun but that doesn't seem likely to be productive.

Suppose the police showed up at your house and asked you if you had stolen a gun because the victim said you might be the thief. I doubt if you'd be happy with either the police or your "friend". I'm sure if they showed up with a search warrant you'd be even less happy.

It could be worse. The police could recover it as the pistol that was used to shoot dead a few kids and since its your gun and never reported it...

torpid
June 17, 2006, 06:53 PM
WeedWhacker
Six of one, a half-dozen of the other. Unless you're implying that, by being a victim of theft, Dionysusigma should be punished for the illegal use of a tool which was stolen from him by a criminal...

(sigh)

No, I am not saying that he should be legally punished.
I am questioning the cavalier habit of of leaving loaded guns in unlocked cars (even a locked door has just glass between a thief and the gun if it is unsecured).

I've seen many posts of folks complaining that their gun was stolen out of their car, and the victim (yes, I do agree they are the crime victim) usually not caring about how easy they made it for the criminal to get their gun in the first place, and instead just wanting to vent and get some solace from fellow gun folks.

In similar threads, many people have given the advice to carry the gun instead of leaving it in the car, or if you have to, get a lockbox for it (as low as $30). I agree with that.
If you can legally carry your gun, why not carry it with you?
Some folks wouldn't dream of leaving hundreds of dollars in their car, but for some reason feel the gun is safer to leave behind.

Do I think we need "secured gun" laws? No.

Do I want the theft victim to be held legally or monetarily responsible for the criminal's future misdeeds? No.

Do I think criminals have any business breaking into other people's property. No.

Does it suck that a legal gun owner got ripped off? Yes.

Does it suck that the "good guy" is down a gun, and the "bad guy" just got a free one for doing what bad guys do? Yes.

Do I think "hassle-hating" folks who leave their guns sitting unsecured in unattended cars are making it too easy for criminals to get a free gun? Yes.



I agree that a truly determined thief can eventually get to a secured gun (or the whole car), but most of these accounts seem to be of people just leaving it in the car "hidden" under the seat or in the glovebox for the casual thief to discover and take.

If you have a gun to protect yourself from people who don't choose to follow society's rules, what makes you think they'll obey the rule against breaking into your car?


.

orionengnr
June 17, 2006, 07:14 PM
well said.

Being a responsible gun owner means taking reasonable precautions to prevent your gun falling into the hands of miscreants.

To do otherwise is to give Antis more ammunition, and more motivation, to turn public opinion against the lawful firearms owner.

There are some fairly effective, very portable lock boxes out there...$50-60 gets you in the door.

PM me if you need further details. And no, I have no financial interest...just wish I'd thought of it first.

espanola
June 17, 2006, 08:38 PM
Torpid, orionengnr, I agree with you that we all need portable lockboxes in our vehicles, and I can't tell you how sick I was over my handgun being stolen from my vehicle when I didn't have a lockbox. Sick over the thought of MY handgun being used to possibly kill someone in a crime due to MY (what I've always thought of as ) carelessness. I was fortunate it turned out the way it did.
But, that being said, I think you may have read more into some of the posts about guns being stolen than was there.
Because I had a handgun stolen from my truck when I stepped into a store for a moment returning from the gun range made you think I WASN'T carrying when I went in the store? Why would you assume that? I WAS carrying what I normally carry, plus a little .380 in my pocket. You ever take more than one gun with you when you go target shooting? How many concealed handguns can/do you carry at a time?

Also I didn't take the original post as just looking for a reason to vent...as far as looking for solace, so what?
Sorry if I seem a little sensitive about that. I am. I was made a victim by a slimeball, and I blame myself on top of it.

torpid
June 18, 2006, 02:09 AM
espanola, my post was aimed at folks in general.

That fact that you actually thought outside yourself and cared about what someone might do with your stolen gun is far and above some of the "*&*$@! stole my gun" posts that I've read here where the person only cares that they "lost" their gun, and don't we all feel sympathy toward their situation.

And suggesting that they might have contributed to the situation through carelessness is often condemned as blaming the victim by the "man, that sucks, bro" supporters.

.

Dionysusigma
June 18, 2006, 07:48 AM
... suggesting that they might have contributed to the situation through carelessness is often condemned as blaming the victim by the "man, that sucks, bro" supporters.
I can't say I disagree. I was careless. I made the mistake of not making sure my doors were locked, a stupid and easily avoidable thing.

Kinda the opposite of locking one's keys in the car, but the stupid-feeling is the same. :banghead: Needless to say, I'll never leave the doors unlocked and a gun unsecured again. :banghead:

SouthpawShootr
June 18, 2006, 10:21 AM
to keep track of your guns in case of future theft you could buy this software http://gunblast.com/Guntracker.htm or write the serial numbers, dates you bought them, et cetera in a notebook. My grandfather made a video of his gun collection. It probably was not easy to update it, if he ever did.

An excellent suggestion. I have an Excel spreadsheet with everything I have on it. A copy resides on my computer, a backup CD on the bookshelf, and a backup CD in my briefcase (in case the house burns to the ground taking my collection and list with it). One of these days I'm going to get a decent digital camera and photograph everything and add that to the CDs.

Geno
June 18, 2006, 10:45 AM
Also, keep purchase receipt, video or digital photos, and a detailed list, using Excel. That is what I do.

Re: the individual who did not report firearm stolen, that leaves you open to allegations of wrong doing because you have no proof that it was not any longer in your legal possession.

ALWAYS report thefts.

How many of you have your firearms engraved with a notice of "belongs to", "from the collection of..."? Sure it lowers value, but promotes returns if lost/stolen. If you NEVER intend to sell it, who cares about "lowered value", right? All new firearms have serial numbers that are distinct, but how many have your name or driver's license number?

Just a thought.

Doc2005

Azrael256
June 18, 2006, 05:02 PM
So it's cool if I take it personally too, right? Let's see... you bought that gun on your birthday, and I got suckered into a K31 while you were doing your 4473. I do believe ten people learned to shoot on that pistol. I also recall a certain person enjoying it so much that he popped off 200 rounds without realizing it, and that was his first time.

*sigh*...

I also seem to recall that you had no intention of buying that pistol when we walked into the store. I remember you debating it, at length, and looking at me like I was supposed to have some kind of great advice about what to do. I guess we should maybe go looking for that Makarov you were after to begin with.

Bart Noir
June 18, 2006, 05:18 PM
That's tough. I can understand your feelings, but not from personal experiance, thank goodness. And this is less than a week after you showed me this gun at your place of former-employment. Hey, what better place than a gun shop for standing in the aisle and handling one?

If you can afford to buy another, I saw a new one for $229 at Big Boys near Mustang. Or maybe your ex-boss will help you out with a very low price.

May the schooling and career never have any such low points for you, ever.

Bart Noir

SouthpawShootr
June 18, 2006, 05:37 PM
Reading these last 2 posts in this thread, I wonder if I missed something?:confused:

Azrael256
June 18, 2006, 05:45 PM
I wonder if I missed something? Dionysusigma and I have been friends for quite some time now. We were roommates sophomore year.

And, of course, I put a couple hundred rounds through the pistol in question.

walpur6isknight
June 18, 2006, 06:29 PM
Sorry to hear about this brother, very sorry.

I would be pretty POed if some asshat stole my gun(s).


What part of OKC do you live in?

I reside in SW OKC, and the neighboorhood is falling apart. Fortunately, we have 5 dogs, and one of us is always home with the 870 at the ready with 1 00 buckshot in the chamber and 6 slugs in the magazine tube.

Stolen guns are rarely recovered. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, chalk this one up as a learning experience.
and while we're are at it, yet another one for the bad guys.
:fire:

lets hope and pray they accidentally blast themself in the genital region with it.

Andrew Rothman
June 18, 2006, 07:15 PM
n 1993 I had a S&W469 stolen, I reported it to PD and insurance co. covered my loss, appx. 8 months later I got a call from the PD, they recovered my gun with many other items stolen in the area, I informed the PD I had been paid by insurance then the officer said he would like to have it, I said SURE, better in the hands of a LEO than a BG...during those 8 months I was REALLY worried someone would get shot with my gun in a crime.

I'm pretty sure a crime occured there, and that once the insurance company covered the loss, the recovered gun became their property.

I'm fairly sure that the cop knew -- or should have known -- that, too. :(

Whirlwind06
June 18, 2006, 10:25 PM
making the statement "don't leave a gun in a car ever" is not very reasonable. The post office for example in a federal no carry zone. In Ohio many places are no-carry zones. Most hospitals for example, anyplace that serves alcohol, and churches to name a few.

This saturday my wife where going the a wedding and a hosptial to visit someone. I chosse not to carry that day knowing that I would be going to a lot on no-carry areas.

Get somekind of car safe. Cuz sooner or later you will have to leave it in the car.

evan price
June 18, 2006, 11:15 PM
I know this is a case of locking the barn doors after horse is gone, but here's what I have been doing instead of a lockbox (because I have no place to put one in my truck).
I use one of those cable locks (like Master makes, or you get for free from Operation Childsafe). I run the cable through the trigger guard of the gun and then wrap it around the seat mounting bracket where it bolts to the floor. If you want, drop the mag and feed it through the mag well or open the cylinder and put it through the frame and it's that much more secure. Lock it up tight. If your BG has bolt cutters then he's got it; but first he has to know it's there and most smash-n-run guys just want what they can grab in a hurry. And a lockbox can be defeated by a good crowbar. SO it's not like it is invincible to have a lockbox. Just make sure you wrap the cable lock around a part of the seat track or mount that is securely bolted to the vehicle.

What I did with one of my vehicles was make a plate out of 3/8" stainless steel scrap I got from work, the plate was about 3" wide and 5" long. I drilled a 1" hole in one end of the plate. I drilled three holes in the other end in a triangular pattern, the holes were about .390" diameter for 3/8" bolts. I used 3/8"x1.5" stainless steel bolts, with lock washers. I bent the plate up at a 45 degree angle in the middle. I drilled three .390" holes in the floor of my Jeep under the seat and then bolted the plate to the floor with fender washers under the floorpan for strength, then spot welded the nuts to the bolts. I put one under each of the front seats. I used this to chain my toolbox, circular saw, chainsaw, guns, etc. when I was out in the boonies, that way they would not walk out of my Jeep with the top off when I wasn't looking.

Advice: get a copy of the polie report relating to the theft and plan on keeping it indefinitely. The gun may turn up in the hands of some meth head or rock slinger someday but don't count on that. Write it off. If you really like Bersa then look at the Bersa Thunder .380's again.

minuteman1970
June 18, 2006, 11:29 PM
Sorry to hear about your stolen gun. I hope you recover it soon.

Matt G
June 18, 2006, 11:41 PM
Dionysusigma, I beg you to please file your theft report with your local police agency, and let them put the pistol's serial number into NCIC. The faster you do so, the better. Pawn shops regularly have their firearms' serial numbers checked. I know of at least one family member who recovered a beloved pistol (also burgled from a car) this way, a year after it was stolen.

There's nothing more frustrating, as a law enforcement officer, then having the public that you serve insist that you will do nothing, and prevent you from even trying to help, when you actually have the tools to give it a good shot.

Dionysusigma
June 19, 2006, 12:22 AM
Matt G: Dionysusigma, I beg you to please file your theft report with your local police agency...

See Posts #13 and 17. ;)

There's nothing more frustrating, as a law enforcement officer, then having the public that you serve insist that you will do nothing, and prevent you from even trying to help, when you actually have the tools to give it a good shot.

I never agreed with exar, and I don't. I hope the police find it... but if they don't, it's not like I can hold it against them. The theif might accidentally drop it in a lake or somewhere it wouldn't be recoverable, and I can't ask anybody to dredge every single lake and river in the country to find a pistol of relatively little significance.

If it is lost forever, I hope it's not before it's been used in a crime. I'd rather that nobody have it than it be in the hands of a BG, kinda like in Lord of the Rings. Granted, the Bersa isn't magically evil and I never disappeared when I got into stance... :scrutiny: :rolleyes:

Matt G
June 19, 2006, 12:56 PM
Sorry about that. General's a big forum, and sometimes I skim. :o

Hope it gets found, because that will increase the chance that the thief gets busted (and you'll get your gun back!).

orionengnr
June 19, 2006, 12:59 PM
Doors not locked, well, that's an easy one to fix in the future.

As far as coming home from the range goes, I resist the temptation to "just stop at Home Depot" or "make a quick stop at 7-11" while in transit to or from the range.

Right after I moved here the news ran a story about a guy whose SUV got stolen. He had stopped at Home Depot on the way home from the range and there were multiple weapons in the SUV. Watching that story pretty much anchored that policy in stone for me.

Turns out the guy was scamming the insurance company, and got caught. Score one for the good guys.

Still, lesson learned.

roscoe
June 19, 2006, 01:14 PM
in 1993 I had a S&W469 stolen, I reported it to PD and insurance co. covered my loss, appx. 8 months later I got a call from the PD, they recovered my gun with many other items stolen in the area, I informed the PD I had been paid by insurance then the officer said he would like to have it, I said SURE, better in the hands of a LEO than a BG...during those 8 months I was REALLY worried someone would get shot with my gun in a crime.
WOW! That is really wrong. The property room is the biggest source of police corruption, according to my sources.

mainmech48
June 19, 2006, 01:41 PM
The fear of something like this is the reason that I installed a purpose-made lock box for my CCWs in my pickup. It is riveted to the back wall of the cab behind the seat where it cannot be seen from any window angle. Also why the doors are locked no matter where I'm parked or how quickly I'm planning to be back, even when the box is empty (usually).

The main reason for the box is that I must occasionally go somewhere where my weapon is forbidden by law to go with me. It also has to stay there when I'm at my workplace, as it's more secure there than in my locker and much less conspicuous to boot.

The latter policy comes from the sad experience of a former co-worker whose shiney new Silverado (unlocked, key in his pocket) was stolen while he was inside paying for gas. It was pretty much trashed and gutted by the time it was finally recovered.

middy
June 19, 2006, 04:39 PM
Well, look on the bright side, at least it wasn't $2000 custom 1911 or something. ;)

Still, even a relatively inexpensive $200 Bersa is a hard loss to swallow, I feel for you. :(

zumpy
June 19, 2006, 08:36 PM
Spam deleted.

-Staff

sturmruger
June 19, 2006, 08:47 PM
I am not sure what Zumpy's motives are, but his link is not what it appears.

silverlance
June 19, 2006, 08:48 PM
. DO NOT CLICK ON THE LINK ABOVE! IT IS B.S. and probably spyware contaminated.

unless you want to see "jessica alba nude picture", etc.


scam scam scam.

silverlance
June 19, 2006, 08:49 PM
is that when i saw that post my heart surged and i thought, "wow, maybe they'll find MY GUN, TOO!"

dillonuser
June 19, 2006, 09:02 PM
DO NOT CLICK ON THE LINK ABOVE! IT IS B.S. and probably spyware contaminated.

unless you want to see "jessica alba nude picture", etc.


scam scam scam.

I highlighted the link and it shows something likewww.starterupsteve.com
Looks like someone is trying to be a smart anal area...

So I think the moderator might want to warn zumpy, or just 86 them.

Dionysusigma
June 19, 2006, 09:06 PM
If my Bersa looked exactly like that... :D

Justin
June 19, 2006, 09:10 PM
Taken care of. Now, returning to the topic at hand...

Mortech
June 19, 2006, 10:59 PM
I also keep an Excel spreadsheet of my weapons serial no , cal , receipt number and dates on my desktop and laptop along with a copy uploaded to my website . IF you don't get a car safe try using on fo those cable locks , I just run it through the mag well up through the open slide and around the seat adjustment rail (I usually have to string 2 of them together ) DON'T run it throught the trigger guard becuse the BG with just break it off .

offthepaper
June 20, 2006, 12:18 AM
I had 3 handguns stolen from my home back around Thanksgiving. Reported them stolen. Provided s/n and detailed descriptions of all three, but never another call from the LE since. Pretty much like they say, all that the LE can really do is document the loss (HO insurance?) and sit back and wait for some idiot to do something real stupid and get traced to the FA. When it first happened I was almost in disbelief that they were gone, or somehow thinking I would get them back in a couple of weeks, but it just was'nt in the cards. My best advise..... save whatever amount of extra $ and buy yourself something nice, an upgrade.
Like the saying goes, the best way to forget about a lost love, is to find a new love.:D

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