USA: "The NRA's enormous political clout"


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cuchulainn
April 30, 2003, 08:38 AM
from CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/04/29/judy.desk.heston/The NRA's enormous political clout

Tuesday, April 29, 2003 Posted: 2:00 PM EDT (1800 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The National Rifle Association just lost its high profile president -- actor Charlton Heston -- but the gun rights' group shows no sign of losing its enormous political clout on Capitol Hill.

Heston boosted the gun rights group's profile when he took the reins in 1998. But as he stepped down this week and handed the job over to Kayne Robinson, former Iowa Republican Party chairman, there is no indication the transition will diminish the NRA's influence.

Gov. Jeb Bush, R-Florida, left no doubt about that when he spoke to the group at their annual meeting in Orlando this weekend. "Were it not for your active involvement, it is safe to say that my brother would not have been elected president of the United States," he said.

Another sign that the gun rights' movement is on a roll was the lopsided vote (285-140) earlier this month in the House of Representatives on a bill giving legal immunity to gun dealers and manufacturers in civil lawsuits. The Senate is expected to take up the measure soon and the Senate's version currently has 52 sponsors.

The practice of suing gun sellers has become the latest legal recourse for cities and states seeking to recoup the cost of gun violence, as well as for individuals and family members of victims of gun violence.

Recently family members of victims of the Washington, DC, -area snipers filed a lawsuit against the sellers of the Bushmaster rifle. Law enforcement officials say a Bushmaster .223 caliber rifle was used in the shootings, a weapon the suspects allegedly obtained illegally from a Tacoma, Washington, store.

But Wayne LaPierre, executive director and CEO of the NRA argued on CNN's "Live From Washington" Monday that these lawsuits are an abuse of the legal system and a federal law outlawing them is needed.

"We're not talking about a manufacturer making a defective product or breaching a contract or warranty. They ought to be sued if they do that. But if we start allowing manufacturers of any products, firearms, cars, pharmaceuticals, you name it, to be sued if a third-party criminal misuses the product, we'll never have another product manufactured in United States again," LaPierre said.

David Lemongello, a former police detective, took issue with LaPierre's characterization that the lawsuits were abusive. He said they hold gun dealers accountable. Lemongello was shot in 2001 while on duty in New Jersey by a man who obtained a gun illegally through a "straw purchaser" or intermediary in West Virginia. He supports the right to bear arms, but is suing the gun dealership.

LaPierre says current regulations and better law enforcement -- not more litigation -- is the answer. "A dealer anywhere in the United States cannot deliver a firearm to any individual without the federal government giving the a-OK stamp of approval on the sale through the national instant check system," he said. "Now, if someone is illegally buying a firearm on behalf of some other person, that's a crime and they ought to be prosecuted and put in jail."

Lemongello said focusing on a criminal act committed with an illegal gun misses the point. "They need to do something before the crime is committed," he said.

Judy Woodruff is CNN's prime anchor and senior correspondent. She is also anchor of "Inside Politics with Judy Woodruff."

© 2003 Cable News Network LP, LLLP.

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Gmac
April 30, 2003, 08:51 AM
"They need to do something before the crime is committed." He's a cop, right? So do something!!!!!ROTFLMAO!!!!

Marko Kloos
April 30, 2003, 09:04 AM
"They need to do something before the crime is committed."

Let's start by consolidating the BATFe and the DEA, and call the resulting agency the "Department of Precrime". Since all they enforce are malum prohibitum and prior restraint laws, it's not too far of a stretch.

Waitone
April 30, 2003, 09:18 AM
Let's start by consolidating the BATFe and the DEA, and call the resulting agency the "Department of Precrime". Working. . . . .temporarily call "Department of Homeland Security."

UnknownSailor
April 30, 2003, 10:13 AM
Lemongello said focusing on a criminal act committed with an illegal gun misses the point. "They need to do something before the crime is committed," he said.

If I live to see 100, I will probably never see an easier setup than that one. I would hit that harder than Barry Bonds hitting a hanging curve.

I wonder how Mr. LaPierre answered that.......

Art Eatman
April 30, 2003, 10:19 AM
Wonder what this cop's notions are for "precrime efforts" concerning rape and prostitution.

:rolleyes:, Art

Preacherman
April 30, 2003, 10:37 AM
Why, Art, that's obvious - licensing, registration, secure storage and periodic inspection! :D

Blackcloud6
April 30, 2003, 11:39 AM
"Lemongello said focusing on a criminal act committed with an illegal gun misses the point. "They need to do something before the crime is committed," he said. "

Well, what Mr. Lemongello?

Why do these guys always say something shold be done but never offer anything up?

Nathaniel Firethorn
April 30, 2003, 03:12 PM
Let's start by consolidating the BATFe and the DEA, and call the resulting agency the "Department of Precrime".Better yet, the new department can start enforcing all the laws that haven't been passed yet.

- The Central Scrutinizer

Byron Quick
April 30, 2003, 03:52 PM
I wonder if his name is pronounced Lemon Jello?

Shooter 2.5
April 30, 2003, 04:15 PM
Well, since I had to do the research anyway, here's some numbers. The total amount contributed during the 2002 elections by the gun groups combined was 2,645,170 dollars. The NRA contributed part of that total at 1,942,215 dollars.

The NRA is number 57 of the top contributors. Here's the link:
http://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topcontribs.asp?cycle=2002

Standing Wolf
April 30, 2003, 07:11 PM
Guns don't have rights. Only people have rights.

PWK
April 30, 2003, 10:42 PM
Shooter 2.5: that is a good site. Really informative. Thanks for posting it. I think I could have guested the contribution tilt of most of those organizations.

Shooter 2.5
April 30, 2003, 10:57 PM
Pax had the website when we discussed the GOA and the NRA.

It is an interesting website. I was surprised those Rich dems control most of the top spending.

PWK
April 30, 2003, 11:03 PM
It's not so much rich dems as it is unions and trial lawyers. I keep wondering why at least some union members won't do something about the overwhelming bias of unions towards the dem. party.

gun-fucious
April 30, 2003, 11:56 PM
lemon jello is a Brady.org shill:

Statement of Dennis A. Henigan
Director, Legal Action Project
Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence

April 10, 2003

My name is Dennis Henigan. I direct the Legal Action Project at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. Our team of lawyers provides pro bono legal assistance to individuals and families who have been victimized by the irresponsible conduct of gun sellers and manufacturers. We also provide pro bono legal assistance to over twenty urban cities and counties in lawsuits against the gun industry.

We are honored to represent several of the victims of the Washington, D.C.-area sniper shootings, including Denise Johnson, who you will hear from in a moment. We also are honored to represent Detective Kenneth McGuire, who you will also hear from, and Detective David Lemongello of Orange, New Jersey

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