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Warren
June 18, 2006, 03:15 AM
But I cannot find a source for extra cylinders for a Uberti 1858 Remington.

If I buy the gun I'm going to want to load up a few cylinders in advance so I'll want to buy maybe three or four extras.

I've surfed bith Uberti's site and Midway USA but cannot seem to find the page that has them.

Please note I am NOT talking about cartridge conversion cylinders, just straight up cap and ball cylinders.

Also if I buy one of the carbines based on the '58 from Uberti will the extra cylinders also fit in it?


Thanks,

Warren

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dwave
June 18, 2006, 08:01 AM
Dixie Gun Works has them:
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_434_443_444&products_id=4325

EDIT: I believe that they will interchange.

Warren
June 18, 2006, 04:02 PM
dwave you da man!


In the listing for the carbine they mention that if you want an extra cyl to order the one you linked to, so they are saying they the cyls do interchange.

dwave
June 18, 2006, 05:19 PM
No problem! :)

Stickjockey
June 18, 2006, 06:23 PM
IIRC Cabela's also carries extra cylinders for the '58.

Edit: Yup. Item number IG-210325, $34.99.

dwave
June 18, 2006, 06:29 PM
Those are Pietta cylinders. I don't know if they would work in a Uberti made pistol. If he had a Pietta I would have suggested them.

Warren
June 18, 2006, 08:11 PM
Yeah, I did a search of THR looking to see if Pietta and Uberti cyls could be interchanged and it does not seem to be so.

The weapons differ a bit in size so one brand of cylinder is too long for the other brand of gun and the second brand of cylinder is too short for the first brand of gun.


Now all I need to know is where do I mount my Surefire and my frikin' laser beam?



















:evil:

dwave
June 18, 2006, 08:43 PM
It is best to stick with what you have. Going with an 1858 if you order huh? If you don't mind not being original or spending the extra $$$, I suggest the target model if Uberti has one (I have never checked). The sights are far better than the original fixed ones, at least on the Piettas anyways. I am sure if Uberti has a target model, will be the same way. I am glad that I went with the target model myself.

Smokin_Gun
June 18, 2006, 09:32 PM
Try these two places for Uberti cylinders:

http://vtigunparts.com/

http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/products/detail-parts.tpl?manufacturer=Uberti&subcategory=1858%20New%20Army&category=Parts

frosty
June 19, 2006, 08:09 PM
A lazer on a Remington:what: :uhoh: :eek: I'll make you test fire my 75 cal boar gun with a full charge if you do...:evil:

sundance44s
June 19, 2006, 08:37 PM
Lazer sights on a Remmie ! whats the world commin to ... there should be a law against it ! Thats a sin ..or worst ! like defaceing coins ! :fire:

Warren
June 19, 2006, 08:43 PM
I was thinking of getting a shorty LaserMax type and securing it in a chamber. Of course this would mean the lazer would rotate as the gun is fired....but I'll train extry hard to learn to use it right.

In fact I might fill 5 of the six chambers with lazers, of course I only get one shot then. But how cool would that be with five lazer dots dancing around on the target?









:neener:

dwave
June 19, 2006, 10:56 PM
You would have to watch putting one in a cylinder, those guns put off alot of powder residue.

Easy now guys, if he wants a laser, that's up to him. :) I wouldn't, but that's just me! :neener:

sundance44s
June 20, 2006, 09:26 AM
I know the perfect place to mount the lazer ........... mount it on a Glock :neener:

Warren
June 22, 2006, 01:00 AM
Back to serious stuff, the only thing I don't like about the '58 is that the grip is a little small...are there any aftermarket grips that are bigger?

Smokin_Gun
June 22, 2006, 02:24 AM
I'll sell ya a set of new unfinnished grips for an 1858 and you can sand um down to whatever you like. What the heck do you shoot in C&B that are bigger than a say Pietta 1858?

After thinkin' about what's bigger I shoot Dragoon, I guess it's a bit bigger.

Warren
June 22, 2006, 05:35 PM
The only '58 Rem I've handled is the one at my local gun shop. There is no room for my pinkie on the grip. Maybe it is a Uberti thing and other brands are bgger.

Smokin_Gun
June 22, 2006, 05:59 PM
A Pietta 1858 grip is a little bigger not by much but the grip frame is no longer. The Dragoon is only about a 1/2" longer in grip length than an 1858 Pietta or Uberti. I don't know what to tell you...big dang fingers man...LoL!
I don't think the Old Army Ruger is any bigger either...than Say a Dragoon or a Walker. They are a Ruger BlackHawk grip frame so I don't know. Ya got me stumped. Maybe you need one athem Real Old Dragoons .58 cal muzzle stuffer...jus' kiddin'.

dwave
June 22, 2006, 08:36 PM
I have big hands too, but I should I am 6 foot 2! :) I just put my pinky under the gun and hold onto it with my 2 fingers and my thumb (can't count the index finger, it works the trigger!)

gmatov
June 23, 2006, 12:08 AM
150 years ago, a 6 foot 2 man was a giant. The average man might have been 5'4". He had a hand that fit his body, Sam Colt made his pistols to fit the common man.

If they are too small for you, it is because they are true to form.

Funny thing is that 95 % of the posters here like the '51 grip because it is a little smaller. Mebbe the population grew a little between then and the '60.

Have you got a REALLY strong pinky, that you think would help you hold onto the pistol? Most other shooters, even those with Walkers, seem to be able to control them with a normal grip.

Hell, my carry piece is a 12 ounce .380, VERY small, can only get 2 finger grip on it, can still shoot it, it has never jumped out of my hand and bit me on the lip. And if you think that sumbitch don't give a little more energetic movement than a couple, 3 pounds of BP revolver, you gotta look into that.

Cheers,

George

Warren
June 23, 2006, 12:23 AM
I used to have a GLOCK 26 with which I would jam my pinkie up under the baseplate of the mag, and that was fine. My pinkie would stay right there and help me control the recoil.

With SA guns are you not supposed to let them roll up on recoil? If so my pinkie would be in the way. And if it is a heavy recoiling load I need the pinkie to help me grasp the gun.

So I'm a bit confused.

Smokin_Gun
June 23, 2006, 03:11 AM
Warren 22gr is a mfg. suggested load in a .44 cal. I like 28gr and it's healthy, 40gr in a 1858 is fun... 45-50 in a Dragoon is fun but in that I shoot 35-40gr and it's healthy and accurate. But then again I like 24gr in a .36 of BP (15gr recommended)or 20gr of 777 ffg which makes for a sharp crack.

AmbulanceDriver
June 23, 2006, 04:41 AM
or 20gr of 777 ffg which makes for a sharp crack

those wouldn't be the bones in your hand, would they???? :eek:

gmatov
June 23, 2006, 11:04 PM
Warren,

Actually, there has been contention, not from Smith and Colt, OR Ruger, but the gun writers, about the shovel handle grip of the Colt style revolver.

Slippery tapered grip on the Colts slide through your hand, less felt recoil, BUT, the barrel is pointing skyward, though you bring your hand back toward the target. Regrip after every shot. Not conducive to accuracy. Smith has the "hump" on top to control that, and Colt has the "hump" on top with ALL their DAs.

SO, to be true to contemporary form, they are all made in the form of the original. I mean, who would buy an "Improved" 58 Rem, or an "Improved" 1860, or 51 or whatever?

Checkering would improve your hold on the handle, the pistol would rock your hand up, but it would come down with the same grip, and, especially, if you used the other hand to cock the hammer, mebbe tighter groups. The same grip each shot, you see.

Cheers,

George

Smokin_Gun
June 24, 2006, 02:24 AM
Quote:
or 20gr of 777 ffg which makes for a sharp crack


those wouldn't be the bones in your hand, would they????

LoL! Could be part of it there Driver, but 20gr of 777 ffg equates to 23gr of Goex fffg BP. I do shoot 28gr ffg BP to catch a Hoot .n a .36 Navy, but that's abourt all it hold....HeHe!

Smokin_Gun
June 24, 2006, 02:28 AM
But if you don't tilt the 1851 Navy or bring it up, how would you dump the caps from between you hammer and frame? HeHe!
May work on the 1858's though...no Hoover vacume mounted in a Remington's innerds...LoL! A lil' Colt/Rem Humor there.

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