Hermann Georing was right


PDA






Lobotomy Boy
June 19, 2006, 05:12 PM
Hermann Goering was right (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1150672506681&call_pageid=968332188492&StarSource=RSS) when he said:

...it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.

If you enjoyed reading about "Hermann Georing was right" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
bouis
June 19, 2006, 05:24 PM
He also said there'd be statues of him in Germany by now. Seen any lately?

Lobotomy Boy
June 19, 2006, 05:40 PM
I haven't been to Germany lately. And your point is...?

Lou629
June 19, 2006, 05:52 PM
All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.

The part he convienently left out was that while this can work particularly well in police states & dictatorships, it is more often the case that it is not so well received in democracies where there is a free press and where the people are free to express their own opinions.

Lobotomy Boy
June 19, 2006, 05:57 PM
The Bush Administration has been working overtime to take care of that free press obstacle.

Lou629
June 19, 2006, 06:13 PM
In your opinion perhaps, although i don't happen to agree with you. Just watch MSN or CNN for a dose of free speech. I mostly don't agree with any of them either, and neither would the white house most of the time, while FOX would probably be a favorite over @ 1600 Penna. avenue.

One thing for sure, H.G. & the rest of that crew thought they knew a lot more about people than they actually did.

ArmedBear
June 19, 2006, 06:40 PM
I haven't been to Germany lately.

I think that WAS his point.:rolleyes:

The Bush administration has done WHAT to curb free speech or the free press? Did they have Murtha hauled off to the Gulag this weekend? I didn't notice. Perhaps they've silenced the New York Times? Jailed the members of Code Pink? Hauled Nancy Pelosi off to jail for sedition? Sent Alec Baldwin to Guantanamo?

Dude, you're off the deep end, now. There's just no evidence for any of this.

Furthermore, the flaw in your use of Goering's statement is a major logical fallacy. You're assuming that, whenever someone says there is a threat to the country, there must not be, since Goering made this statement. This is just plain silly.

One thing for sure, H.G. & the rest of that crew thought they knew a lot more about people than they actually did.

That's true. It's important to remember who succeeded and who failed, in 1945. If the German leadership had made all the right strategic and tactical moves, and made the right assumptions about how to manipulate people, would they have failed so spectacularly?

buzz_knox
June 19, 2006, 06:48 PM
Like most famous quotes (or books, if you take 1984 as an example), this quote contains a considerable amount of truth and a recognition of some aspect of the human condition. As such, it is susceptible to being misinterpreted intentionally or unintentionally by those predisposed to believing it applies to a particular situation. It is, in fact, being misapplied here. Unfortunately, those predisposed to believing tend to do so regardless of the facts and thus arguing with them is fruitless.

Lobotomy Boy
June 19, 2006, 06:49 PM
The verdict is in, and the press has officially been beaten into submission by the bullying tactics of Herr Rove and his Ministry of Propoganda. If you haven't figured that out by now, you've bought into the fear mongering and nothing I say will convince you that trading freedom for the illusion that the nanny state will protect your cowardly behind is a fool's bargain. Y'all have good, solid careers waiting in this brave new world, driving the trucks that haul the gas pellets to the camps. Seig Heil. Just remember that today's pig is tomorrow's bacon, today's coward is tomorrow's protien source.

Technosavant
June 19, 2006, 06:51 PM
"Propoganda" is spelled propaganda.

Just thought I'd help you out. I think your tinfoil is interfering with your typing. :neener:

Correia
June 19, 2006, 06:53 PM
This thread is far too stupid to live.

Regardless of how whether anyone agrees with the initial poster or not, the whole antagonistic, snide, crap has got to stop.

If you enjoyed reading about "Hermann Georing was right" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!