Oleg getting bad press in SE


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tellner
June 20, 2006, 09:11 AM
Sensible Erection is a place where people post and talk about interesting links, often porn. Last night someone put up a link (http://sensibleerection.com/entry.php/58090)to Oleg's photo gallery. There's a fair number of nasty comments. I've responded to one or two, but a little help with the de-smearing would be nice.

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shermacman
June 20, 2006, 09:15 AM
I had to wash my mouse out with soap...

rbernie
June 20, 2006, 09:17 AM
I'd love to help, but it's not like I'm going *there* from my work computer. I shudder to think what the IT nannies would do.... :what:

Tim Burke
June 20, 2006, 09:17 AM
Do we really care what they think over there?
Sometimes you can judge someone by his enemies. I'd be more concerned if there were a bunch of people over there singing Oleg's praises.

rms/pa
June 20, 2006, 09:42 AM
keep in mind, the high road does not include going to other sites to troll.

flame wars are a waste of bandwidth..... and the pig likes it.

rms/pa

hso
June 20, 2006, 09:52 AM
Well said rms/pa.

Oleg doesn't need defending, but if folks want to take the high road and explain the role of the right to keep and bear arms along with the right to free speech in the constitution that may not be trolling. It's a fine line and if you don't think you can stay on the right side of it you may not want to walk it.

Working Man
June 20, 2006, 09:52 AM
Don't wrestle with pigs; you get dirty and they enjoy it.

wheelgunslinger
June 20, 2006, 10:01 AM
Looks like you did an admirable job defending Oleg, Todd. Unfortunately, the detractors seem entrenched in the troll mindset and aren't really interested in an exchange of ideas, and possibly learning.
But, while basking in the glow of goodness here on THR, it's always nice to be reminded that there will always be the diametrical opposite of responsible, mature, gun ownership and the fruits thereof. And, that particular page reminded me of that.

The only thing I might add is: "Your right to surf porn and fetish material, and in the process be free from capital punishment handed out by whackjob fundamentalists, brought to you by the United States Constitution. All of it. "

real_name
June 20, 2006, 10:03 AM
Pigs?

Who are pigs, and why?

Tim Burke
June 20, 2006, 10:44 AM
It's a metaphor. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/metaphor)

Stickjockey
June 20, 2006, 10:45 AM
You know, pigs. four legs, floppy ears, curly tail. Where bacon comes from. And pork chops.

Sindawe
June 20, 2006, 11:14 AM
From the SE comments...As for the thumbgirl, that's Oleg's little girl. You really don't want to mess with the pride and joy of a man who owns that many repeating firearms.Oleg has kids? You sly devil you... :neener:

Explored their site a bit, found this (http://www.princeton.edu/~artofsci/gallery2006/index.html). Now THAT is "porn" I can get into to. :D

mrmeval
June 20, 2006, 11:25 AM
Let them rave. It costs them bandwidth.

Mannlicher
June 20, 2006, 11:35 AM
I know that there are sites such as (wow) "Sensible erection", and I know that there are folks out there that have different social and moral views than I have. I can't correct those things, nor do I feel a need to. I handle the situation by just 'not going there', if you get my drift.

Oleg Volk
June 20, 2006, 11:38 AM
Amusing: they link mostly to G/PG/PG13 rated images on my site...I guess small arms = porn to some people.

real_name
June 20, 2006, 11:40 AM
Oh, metaphoric pigs.
I thought there might be pictures of beastiality and guns. Not what I want etched onto my retinas.
Apologies, I wake up slowly some days, especially when I'm recovering from being drawn in by association to a three day neighborhood dispute. Seven Police visits, one serious death threat and numerous general threats. And all over a simple parking ticket.
I love living in neighborhoods where half the homes are $250 000 and the other half are $60 000.

Having just spoke with Oleg I am assured this is all just a storm in a very, very small teacup.
The pigs that is, not the fun and frolics on my block.

Manedwolf
June 20, 2006, 11:41 AM
Raving antis just make me smirk.

One, they're just "fighting keyboardists", they don't actually take any political action....that'd be work. They just rant.

And two, if there's a natural disaster or such in their area, it's schadenfreude time. You know that they'll be the ones having the sudden epiphany when they call the police to report someone sneaking around their house, and are told the police can't come and they're on their own. No guns? Too late!

Oleg Volk
June 20, 2006, 12:11 PM
Good thing I don't post images showing inadequately covered women with severed heads in their hands (http://www.expo-klimt.com/painting/gk009.jpg) or numerous dead infants (http://catholique-rouen.cef.fr/publier/IMG/jpg/Rubens_Le_Massacre_des_Saints_innocents._1635-1640._Ancienne_Pinacotheque_de_Munich_Peinture_Hollandaise._jpeg.jpg), like those sick puppies Klimt and Rubens with their violent Biblical stories...

tellner
June 20, 2006, 03:09 PM
Pigs? Delicious. Unfortunately they're not kosher :(

1911JMB
June 20, 2006, 06:49 PM
I know it gets tiresome, but quitting on trying to convert anti's is not an appropriate thing to do. I have converted about 10 people from anti's to shooters, and about another 10 from anti to pro but they still don't own guns, which is of course fine. Many of those people have gone on to spread the word. The way I see it is, if even one person could be converted in a case like this, its worth it.

hso
June 20, 2006, 09:47 PM
Who's the guy that kept saying that he knew Oleg and that Morrigan and Michaela were Oleg's kids?

mec
June 20, 2006, 10:24 PM
Prefer not to go to a website named after a penis. Don't care what people who name their websies after a penis think, think about or say. Oleg is a great photographer. Since he has talent and works at it, I can understandy why people fascinated by their erections might not like him.

fascinate-latin fascinum-an engorged and erect mentula{penis}

Sven
June 20, 2006, 11:56 PM
Wow, they really couldn't take the heat in the end. Nice work. :)

1911Tuner
June 21, 2006, 04:52 AM
Not to mention that hitting that type of website often loads your computer with unpleasant things...Adware...Spyware...Trojan Horses, etc.

Got a teenage boy in the house. Password changed. No need to inquire further. Now he pursues things not web-related, to say the least.:fire:

Missashot
June 21, 2006, 07:48 AM
This will probably be one of the few times I post without checking out all of the facts simply because I detest porn, and refuse to go to such a site.
However from some of the other comments, I can assume that some of our folks have tried to enlighten the antis. :D
And while that is an admirable idea. Most of the time, you can't win an argument with someone who is thinking with the wrong head.:p
Oleg has our support here and we know what he is about.
Sometimes you have to pick your battles carefully, so that the probability of winning the fight is higher.
Chances are, those folks are just bored and trying to goad someone into a flame war.
I think a little bit of any and everything gets posted on all kinds of different and sometimes totally unrelated forums/chat rooms.

Byron Quick
June 21, 2006, 11:16 AM
You must really have to dig for the porn on that site. All I saw was pin-up style art that could have graced the nose of aircraft in WWII without any chaplain in the service blinking an eye.

No hardcore antis there. Easy pickings. Trying emotional jibes that fold at the first sign of logic. They're no fun at all.

Don Gwinn
June 21, 2006, 06:44 PM
TL/DR, but I liked the guy early on who declared that "Creepy racial undertones+guns=Creepy."

When asked what undertones he saw, he stated that Oleg's site is "whitewashed" and "everyone seems to be the same race."

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. On Oleg Volk's gallery?
:scrutiny:

dhoomonyou
June 22, 2006, 10:05 AM
Pigs, get the BBQ & Tabasco sauce.

Someone famous once said "I am defined by my enemies, more than by those who agree with me" or something like that.

Ignore them.

joe4702
June 22, 2006, 10:34 PM
If Olegs work doesn't convince someone of the benefits of gun ownership and the dangers of gun control, it's hopeless. They are permanently trapped in their blissninny delusions and it's worthless to argue with them.

Linux&Gun Guy
June 22, 2006, 11:27 PM
I don't have anything against porn(or "pr0n") but what is next? Going to a drug forum to educate the members that are antigun?

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