[amprecon]

I don't currently own a revolver, but have owned them in the past, none of which were SA's. From .44mag Redhawks to .38spl snubbies, DA's just have never done it for me. I fired a 5 1/2" Vaquero in .45lc that belonged to a friend of mine, and I hit right where I aimed and it didn't have the recoil I was expecting. It just "felt" right, I can't put a finger on it.
As I've been considering another revolver I've been taking into account the different calibers and pro's and con's of different types of revolvers and logic tells me that the perfect revolver would be a S&W 619. 7 rounds of .357 mag, DA, SS, ability to shoot .38spl's, cheap and plentiful ammo, what more could you ask for in a revolver?
But when I decide to make up my mind, it just doesn't happen. A SA in .45lc keeps cutting into the front of the line in my mind. I have even considered the new S&W Thunder Ranch Model 22 in .45acp, thinking that it was the idea that I had to have a .45 caliber revolver to satisfy my desires, then I consider that it's a DA and the SA .45lc shoves it out of my mind again.
I don't know what's going on here, but it seems that if I am to buy a revolver that it's going to be a New Vaquero with a 4 5/8" barrel in .45lc, regardless of how much .45lc ammo costs. Am I experiencing Divine Intervention or what?
I know it doesn't make sense, .45lc is prohibitively expensive, there's not as much of it around, the caliber doesn't possess the stopping power record that the .357 does, SA's take longer to reload, no DA capability, what gives?

[AirForceShooter]

It's an American Classic.
You have to have one.

AFS

[ugaarguy]

Amprecon,

Who cares if its logical? You like it, you enjoy shooting it, it replaces every other gun you try to move ahead of it at the top of want the list. It sounds like a pistol you'll truly enjoy and never regret buying - that's all the logic you need - GO FOR IT! It's like me and the 1911 I want; I shot a 1911 and a Hi-Power side by side and I shot the Hi-Power better. I bought a Hi-Power and I love shooting it. Yet I still want a 1911. It's a classic, it's another JMB design, it's just something I want. Sure it only holds 7 or 8 rounds, ammo's expensive, it's not a 357 SIG or a 40 S&W or any new one shot stop wonder cartridge, or, or... etc. I just like them and and want one. Reason enough for me to start lookin for a 1911; Your situstion is reason enough for you to start lookin for a SA Revolver in 45 LC. We've all gotta have guns that we enjoy for no other reason than just plain liking them.

[AH-1]

it is un-american not to own one:)

[MCgunner]

Okay, okay, I'll try to use logic to explain why you NEED one. :D First off, if you care anything at all about American history and the American west, you have to have one. Now, I prefer the Rugers for utility, but many will want the real thing or a clone of the real thing. The Vaquero is a good compromise between the two desires. My own is a Blackhawk, 4 5/8" and quite carryable at 40 or so ounces, yet it packs a .44 magnum punch! And, the .45 gets this sort of performance at lower pressures. Yes, it's a Ruger, well a Blackhawk anyway, you can juice the ol' boy up to 1200 fps or so with a 300 grain bullet. THAT'll keep the bears away! It's a very easy round to handload for, too. It's quite accurate and loves cast lead bullets. That's a good thing cause you can reload the round for $3-4 a box depending on where you get the lead. That ain't expensive. Get a 255 grain bullet mold and go to town! It's a fun gun to shoot and it's amazingly accurate.

For outdoor uses, the single action is still wildly popular for both hunting and woods bummin'. They're accurate, they're strong, and they'll handle loads that take a much heavier DA to handle. Easy totin' with a LOT of punch. You can even get 'em in monsters like the Freedom Arms .454 or some of the Bowen guns in wild, powerful big bore magnum semi-wildcat calibers.

For me, though, the .45 colt is plenty. It's easy to shoot, easy to reload for, and versatile. If you get a lesser gun than a Blackhawk, you'll be limited to the milder loads, but even those can pack nearly 500 ft lbs, not bad.

But, I just like owning the thing. Sometimes I'll be reloading or putting up ammo and I'll pull out a .45 ACP, a .357, a 9x19.....then I look in the .45 colt box...:what: :D I've got one mold that throws a 340 grain bullet! That one looks wild all loaded up in Colt brass. :D Sure, there are 50s now days that can give a .300 mag a run for its money at pistol ranges, but look at the guns they're chambered in, nearly as handy as a long action magnum rifle. Yeah, sure, I coulda went with a .44 when I was lookin' for a powerful single action, but I prefer the nostalgia. :D

[Ohen Cepel]

Can't believe I'm agreeing with the AF:evil: However, AirForceShooter has it right. It's a classic.

I have one that I have yet to shoot. Yet, I fondle it from time to time and try to fit it into the next range trip.

It's a part of our history and I don't think you can go wrong with that.

[runninmike]

Because they're just plain cool!
I'd kind of like 1 of those Beretta Stampedes in 5.5" or 7.5" blue .45lc.
Best-MC

[schmeky]

amprecon,

You are finding out why and how the SA revolver in .45LC is still popular in the 21st century. I have owned a Ruger Blackhawk in .45LC for 25 years, and yes, it is a powder puff to shoot. The grip angle transfers recoil in a different manner from any other type of handgun, making recoil a non-issue.

Yes, factory ammo is high, but there are people that reload, and better yet, you could get into reloading yourself, great fun. With a Ruger, you can load up to 1,000 ft. lbs. energy at the muzzle, powerful enough for anything on the North American continent.

Accuracy is outstanding on a quality .45LC and those big slugs make things jump around a lot when making contact with tin cans, or whatever; great fun.

Yea, it's time to get a .45LC.

[loadedround]

The question really is...why wouldn't you want one?

[Warren]

The answer is that in a past life you carried one to good effect. While you do not have the explicit memories of it the good feeling about the weapon remains.

[doggscube]

You could buy a convertible Blackhawk which comes with an extra cylinder in .45ACP. I've thoroughly enjoyed mine.

-Jeff

[gazpacho]

45Colt (255gr LRN @ 855fps) is very comparable to 45acp (230gr FMJ @ 910 fps).

After you get your SA 45Colt, you'll need a decent gunrig. Nothin' like strappin' on your gunbelt with cartridges in the loops and sliding your SA into the holster.

[BluesBear]

the caliber doesn't possess the stopping power record that the .357 does,Oh... I wouldn't say that.

The .45 Colt has been causing severe plasma and platelet leakage since 1873.
The .357 didn't come along until 1935.


For a bump in the night I'll grab my .45 Colt over any of my .357s.

[Rich K]

I have a Ruger Bisley in 45 LC, that is an absolute joy to shoot. I have taken a couple of whitetails with it, the recoil is mild,it speaks with authority when it hits. What more can I say, it is definitely one of my favorites. It is also more fun to shoot than my 357. Get one, and enjoy it!:)

[Norton]

You mustt have been reading my mind. I may just be going up to the local Guns R Us today to take a look at a Taurus Gaucho. :D

[unspellable]

Every body should have a SA 44 or 45, or at least a 357. It's the same principal as every body should have a Winchester 94. It's just un-American not to. Would my Winchester 94 be the first piece of iron I'd grab to go hunting? No, but I feel better knowing it's in the cabinet.

[snafu_72]

My first, and only handgun is the aforementioned Ruger New Vaquero in .45LC. It has a nice heft to it and hits what I aim at. While it may not be an ease to reload and you have to be careful what you feed it the only thing I'd like is to get another so my gunbelt sits better on my hips!
Also, remember a 9mm may expand but a .45 never shrinks.

[Stainz]

I second the suggestion to get a .45 Colt Blackhawk convertible, still in the '06 Ruger catalog as BN44X (4.6") and BN455X (5.5"), both at an MSRP of $546. Your local dealer should be able to find you one from one of his suppliers. They are blued and have adjustable sights, as well as the aforementioned separate cylinders for both .45 ACP and .45 Colt. I bought a 5.5" variant as a way to shoot-up my stash of el-cheapo ACP's from my G21... but just had to shoot some of those infernal .45 Colt 'cowboy' loads. I was hooked - a major case of revolver-itis followed. My rationale is for the ability to launch those 'big' Colt rounds when you want/need them - and to plink away with .45 ACP ball ammo at other times.

I went through my SA stage - and really fell in love with DA revolvers - particularly the S&W's. I have two 625 Mountain Guns in .45 Colt - and another variant, the 625JM, in .45 ACP - which is admittedly easier to feed, if you don't reload. You can buy .45 ACP's on a Sunday evening from a discount store - only well-stocked gunstores carry .45 Colts. That Blackhawk convertible will give you both, of course, in one gun. Good luck!

Stainz

[ugaarguy]

Stainz,

How's the 45 ACP accuracy in the convertible Blackhawk? In another thread here the wheelgun section they the 9mm accuracy suffers in the 357/9mm convertibles.

To all who are knowledgable on it,

Does the convertible cylinder model lose any strength compared to the standard 45 LC which everyone says will take 44 Mag power loads?

Thanks.

[Ifishsum]

...must...obey...the...voices....

I was overcome with the same urge a few weeks ago. There's nothing you can do about it but buy one (mine's a Taurus Gaucho). There's just so much history behind the design and the cartridge, and it's a beauty to shoot. I'm even making some blackpowder loads to shoot for fun :D

[MCgunner]

Does the convertible cylinder model lose any strength compared to the standard 45 LC which everyone says will take 44 Mag power loads?

No, same gun, just an extra cylinder.

How's the 45 ACP accuracy in the convertible Blackhawk? In another thread here the wheelgun section they the 9mm accuracy suffers in the 357/9mm convertibles.

The 9 is .355" bullet in a .357" barrel, not a good combination for accuracy. The bullet will yaw back and forth down the barrel as well as not grab the rifling very well. The Blackhawk .45 barrel is .451", in modern .45 colt dimensions the same as .45ACP. Older .45 Colts were .454". So, I don't see a problem with accuracy with the ACP other than there's a little more free bore before the forcing cone which could affect accuracy a little.

[LoneCoon]

Creepy. I had to restrain myself yesterday from taking home a Navy Arms SAA I saw yesterday. I should have got it. I think 275 was a good price for it.

[.45 Cal]

I knew I had to have one after the first time I fired one. And, yes, it's expensive, and I don't re-load, but i don't care :) . Love my Smith model 25 Mountain Gun!

[Cocked & Locked]

The "Cool Factor" is too high not to own at least one :uhoh:

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[quiknot]

having a 45lc for just over a year...and reached my 1000 round reload...i can say it is truly a love relation....for my reloads it costs me $3.53 / 50..and equipment was just a simple $20.00 Lee "cigar box" reloader....

[Chuck R.]

Just be careful, if you do get one, they’re kind of addictive. They’re great plinkers, with a whole bunch of history thrown in.

I’m now up to 4; a Ruger Black Hawk, two Colt 3rd generation SAAs, and now a Colt 1st generation SAA. All in .45 Colt. I have the standard barrel lengths covered.

Looks like I’ll be chasing down Buntlines next….or maybe 44-40s……..

Chuck

[AH-1]

the new vaquero is hot.just bought one and love it.
http://www.hunt101.com/img/412515.jpg (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=412515&c=500&z=1)

[HighVelocity]

I bought one, then a 2nd, then had to have a matching pair. :uhoh: :D
THe 45LC is a great round. Anyone that owns a 45LC chambered handgun also NEEDS a 45LC chambered levergun. You will be assimilated, resistance is futile.

[RugerSAFan]

I am more accurate with my two Ruger SA .45lc's. (One blackhawk and one vaquero).

Would like to try an "original style" SA someday.

[MCgunner]

http://f5.putfile.com/6/17519301375.jpg

[orionengnr]

never mind

[Hollowdweller]

You guys are getting me fired up!

I have a .45 Blackhawk on layaway and I should be springing it soon.

Reloading dies wil be purchased shortly after. The ammo IS steep.

I have a .30 M1 Blackhawk that has totally sold me on them. Shoots fantastic. This .45 looks just like it with the 7 plus in. barrel so I'm hoping the 45 shoots as good as the .30

[roscoe]

any subject that starts out with "feel" in the title makes me question the legitimacy and the motives of the poster.
Wow - tough audience.

Well, I felt the need for a .45 Blackhawk this weekend, so I bought one.

Now, I feel great.

Sorry for sharing my feelings, orionengnr.

[454shooter]

Hi Y'all !:D
For the ammo,you can buy the cowboy loads. Around these parts,in Kommiefornia,Modesto/Turlock area,about $ 20.00 for a box of 50.
Myself,I have an Uberti 1873 Cattleman,matte black,4 3/4" barrel. It is very light to carry, and just a plain JOY to shoot.
I've been collecting on 45 Colt loads.All the way from Black Powder and substitutes to smokeless. A good pard, that lives about 8 miles from me,has
been telling me of loads.The loads, are no where near max.Like Elmer Keith
(rest his soul) loaded years ago.
These 6 guns of the 1873 design,are primarily black powder.And are not meant to "hot rod" or "magnumize". To do so,well,not good for your health.
With this set aside,mine is a wonderful late 19th century delight,for the 21st century.
I used to think "magnums" all the time.I read about the 454 Casull. I bought nearly every gunrag on it.Dreaming about owning one...someday.I've had a 357 mag.Owned it for 13 years.Bought it in the early 1970's.Read about handgun hunting. Bob Milek's articles and the "Guns and Ammo How to..."
books.
A long story short, I did buy my Freedom Arms 454 Casull.a Field Grade.
Have maybe about 200-300 rounds through it.I still can't part with it.It is a great gun though.
Last year, I wanted to buy a rifle. I thought, why should I buy another
30-06 ? With all the hype and bull on GrayBeard Outdoors (yes I am a member) I was reading about "Bear Hunting". You'd read post after post, and the "what caliber, how big your bear rifle is", on and on. Beginning to sound like a bunch of cackling hens, and the "little" boys saying this is bigger,that's better."Are you nuts...." Well, you know.
So,I started to think,"If a 45-70 was good in the late 1800's,why not now ?"
I had to order one.With the idea of cowboy shooting came around,I just HAD to have a 45 Colt ! I shopped around...kinda. I went to Turlock,south of Modesto.Found Alquist Arms.The owner,let me handle the Colt 45 copies.
One, I REALLY liked !! It fit right.Everything was right ! I didn't have the money at the time for a deposit.Waited until I did.Went back in.Seen all others:44-40,357 mag.NO ! I wanted a 45 Colt,4 3/4" barrel.He showed me this 1873 Cattleman,45 Colt,4 3/4" barrel.I decided right there,I'll take this one home,in a few weeks.
Since that time,not many weeks ago,I brought it home.In the last 2-3 weeks,
I've fired my BP/sub's,and smokeless rounds.Both reloads and factory.
Yes, these guns will talk to you.Just gotta listen.Mine likes 16.5gr of 2400,
with a 255gr plated lead bullets.This gets you in the upper end of 900 FPS.
Can get you into the 1000 FPS,or a smidge better.Yes, this load is serious.
No high pressure signs.Cases came out easy.
But,it won't beat you half-to-death like magnums would.Recoil,can't be said of "stout".Recoil,is more on the mild side.And, yes, I do own a Ruger RedHawk44 magnum. It's,I'd say, less (recoil),than full house 44 mag/240gr loads.
OK, for the results of this past Fridays' shoot:
255gr copper plated lead,16.5gr of 2400.(no where near max)
One went for 1003.5 FPS.
Ran "Point Blank". At 50 yards 996 FPS.570 FPE.
75 yards,993 FPS,547 FPE.
100 yards,989 FPS,539 FPE.
Recoil was there,but much more pleasant to shoot.
This load, will be worked up a little.Not much.Can be used for deer/bear hunting.
I'd say, buy a 45 Colt.It's still a great cartridge ! And, you can enjoy this all day long.The cowbot loads,are really nice to shoot.I'll more than likely take this Uberti hunting later this year.And, might leave the 44 mag and the 454 at home.Take the 44 mag Winchester, and the 45-70.
You'll like it !!(45 Colt)

[Stainz]

Yes, a .45 Colt Blackhawk is a neat firearm, but I traded my last one not too long ago. So is a Vaquero, like my SS 4.6" with a Bird's Head Grip - which I still have (There is something about a 4.6" SS BHG - I also have both a SSM in .32M and a homebrew SBH in that style.). I also still have a 5.5" Redhawk and a 24" Puma M1892, both in SS and .45 Colt. My absolute favorite way to launch .45 Colts is via a S&W 625MG.

The MG has a 4" tapered barrel over a partial lug - very 'traditional' looking. Add some Ahrends square-conversion cocobolo stocks, finger-grooved or not, your choice, and you have a very 'retro' looking, and easy to point, revolver. Load your .45 Colts to anything within the commercial SAAMI spec's, and you are ready to go. Buffaloe Bore also loads a pair that was designed around the 25/625 - for 1,000 lb game - 300 & 320 gr LWFN @ 900+fps from the 4" tube. Heck, load it with my 200gr LRNFP poppers at 700 fps - even in Schofield cases - and you'll have a 'blast', so to speak.

With apologies to OreoNinja, I 'felt' a need to make a trade not too long ago. I no longer had 'feelings' for my 5.5" SS Bisley BH, so I swapped it for another 625MG, LN and with hammer-mounted fp. I 'feel' better this way... SA is fun, but it is so nice to be able to only squeeze a trigger to make it go bang. I 'feel' better now, more at peace... that inner voice said I did good... and I need to go make more ammo, as the voices already had me clean everything...

In all seriousness, we have a diverse mix here of revolver lovers, the term 'lovers' being inherently a 'feeling'. If we weren't inclined to have 'feelings' for these roundguns, we'd just be toting squared and evil plastic bottom-feeders. I know folks 'love' their bottom-feeders - 1911 guys, for example. We roundgun loons are just a bit different... please be tolerant... we are! Everyone have the day of your choice... and enjoy your 'feelings' for your roundguns. Clean them - take 'em out and blast with them... just don't over-feed them, they work better when in one piece. The .45 Colt is just a neat old round with which to accomplish all of this.

Stainz

[MCgunner]

I no longer had 'feelings' for my 5.5" SS Bisley BH, so I swapped it for another 625MG, LN and with hammer-mounted fp. I 'feel' better this way... SA is fun, but it is so nice to be able to only squeeze a trigger to make it go bang.

If you want your revolver to do SD duty, CCW duty, whatever, DA is significant, but I FEEL...:neener: ...DA has no real use in the outdoors. All my shooting is single action and I've been totin' single actions afield since I was a kid with a .22/.22mag convertible, so I'm sorta used to 'em.

Now, I'm a practical, logical thinking guy, but I do have "feelings" 'cause, after all, I'm a human, not a Vulcan. I just LOVE (that's a feeling) single action revolvers, revolvers in general, actually. My practical side has me totin' and competing with auto-chuckers a lot, but deep down I'm a revolver guy despite the fact that autos really do have advantages in a fight. I think I carry revolvers as much as I do because it makes me FEEL warm and fuzzy to do so. :D

When I wanted to buy a handgun to adorn with personal embellishment, to personalize, to make "MINE" and keep forever, I got that .45 Blackhawk, put Sambar stag grips on it and had it engraved with my initials on the butt. I didn't even consider a DA revolver or a slab sided gun for such. Why would I do that? Feelings, of course. I have always loved the SA revolver. It is a practical field gun as well as beautiful to my eye (beauty is not a fact, it's a feeling). Didn't hurt this gun is ultra accurate and capable of shooting some mighty practical, powerful loads in the field, either.

[unspellable]

I have a SA 45 because it would be un-American to not have one. But for practical use in the woods I use a DA. I'm with MCgunner in that it would be a rare day that I would want to fire with out thumb cocking, and reloading is not an issue. How ever I have always found that I can shoot a DA more accurately than a SA. I suspect it has something to do with the way the grip fits my hand and that sort of thing is like shoes, mine won't fit your feet.

[MCgunner]

I don't buy the hand fit thing. I can shoot either just fine. I can't wear a pair of size 8 shoes, though, without major foot surgery that I don't wish to go through.:what: However, you do have to get used to the old plow handle. If you haven't shot it much, I can see how it'd negatively affect your accuracy. It takes a bit of practice to get used to. I say this, but heck, my first handgun was a single action 40 years ago.

[Gundenstern]

I think Revolver Ocelot summed it up nicely when he called the SAA the "finest handgun ever made".

The single action feels very natural in my hand, personally, and I love the "interactivity" of having to cock it before each shot. And along with the transfer bar, it's hard to find a safer gun out there (although the biggest safety is between your ears). Everyone should have one.

[Sistema1927]

You can't buy one.










You need to buy two, along with a carbine and either a coach gun or Win 97. That way, you will be able to participate in Cowboy Action Shooting.

[BluesBear]

I just finished working up some loads for .45 Colt.

I am getting superb accuracy with 6.0 grains of Hodgdon TiteGroup under a 255 grain hardcast lead SWC as well as the 250 grain jacketed bullets.

Groups are about half the size of standard .45 Colt 255 lead factory ammo.
And since I should be able to get 1150 loads from one pound of powder, shooting the .45 Colt becomes much more affordable too.


$45.75 - 1000 LSWC bullets (shipped)
$16.90 - 1lb TiteGroup (with sales tax)
$17.81 - 1K CCI 300 primers (with sales tax)
$80.46 - 1,000 rounds

as opposed to

$16.00 - 50 round box of cowboy ammo (on sale) (most factory .45 Colt ammo is priced over $20 !!!)

so that means

$320 for 20 boxes! (of the cheap stuff no less)

which gives me a savings of

$239.54 AND I get much better accuracy! :D

[MCgunner]

BluesBear

Your next step is a good mold and a lead pot. I use range scrap lead, can load a box for under $3 not including brass. Since my bullets are FREE, your calculation would infer $34.71 per 1000 rounds. ;) I shoot 1" five shot groups off sandbags at 25 yards with a 255 grain flat nose from Lee, a double cavity mold.

Your source of lead may cost you if you can't find a free source. I used to buy wheel weights pretty cheap and some tire stores will gladly give 'em away. I guess that's part of the fun, finding lead sources.

[MrsHighVelocity]

the SA .45 LC. MMmmmmm a womans dream. At least this one. I am by no means as good as you gentlemen out there (ladies too). But, this is why I love my .45 LC Single Action stainless Ruger Vaquero's; New, old style.

1. They are really shiny! Girls like shiny things!
2. The grip fills my hand perfectly, unlike the other SA's out there.
3. The recoil is non existent, smooth enough to shoot one in each hand.
4. Did I mention they were really shiny?
5. They go so well with EVERYTHING!

I had a blued vaquero, but hated it, the grip wasn't long enough, and my pinkie kept flopping around looking for purchase. That was sold.

Oh, and I agree Sistema. I as well have my Marlin and my Coach SxS. Unfortunately, a certain STORE refused to aid me in getting my Shiny Coach, though I asked twice Face to Face, they just IGNORED me! :mad:

So here are my shiny weapons of greatness. Simple, and with my SASS ammo and hat. (couldn't resist)

Ohh, and they can be used as Mirrors to put lipstick on or fixing hair. Multi tasking SA's. :evil:

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[orionengnr]

I haven't heard the end of this :neener:

Okay, mea culpa:

I have seen a number of threads by low-thread posters that invoke "feelings" as part of their raison d'etre. Most troll-propelled posts, Brady freaks, etc, will get into "feelings" before long.

I am invariably suspicious of these threads and occasionally (as evidenced by yesterdays's outburst) react viscerally.

I tend to work on facts--for instance, which is better? 45acp or 9mm :rolleyes:

And I don't love any of 'em (check my turnover rate).

I am Vulcan in public, Android in private. Umm, I meant, human in private...

Maybe. :eek:

[ArmedBear]

I need a SA in .45LC. That's a fact, not a feeling. I don't have a SA in .45LC yet, therefore I must need one.:D

[Gundenstern]

(I apologize if this is a repost, my computer screwed up on me)

orionengnr, I must disagree and agree with you. While anti-gun types do indeed think with thier brain stems :barf: , many people (including myself), were probably referring in part to the fact that SA's sit nicely in the hand and point so naturally. An intellectual affinity for the SA can be found as well in it's superb mechanism, perfect lines, and historical value.

[MCgunner]

Don't forget the inherent strength of the mechanism. I have logical reasons for liking the old thumb buster. Heck, they work!

I have seen a number of threads by low-thread posters that invoke "feelings" as part of their raison d'etre. Most troll-propelled posts, Brady freaks, etc, will get into "feelings" before long.

I am invariably suspicious of these threads and occasionally (as evidenced by yesterdays's outburst) react viscerally.

Understood, if not quite comprehended. But, I understand the logic in that. While I do appreciate the aesthetics of the SA revolver from an emotional point of view, I do get irritated at those who anthropomorphize guns, give 'em names, etc. They are tools, after all. But, they can also be a canvas for art, that's how pleasing the basic gun is to my eye. Probably watched too many westerns when I was a kid. I don't shoot SASS cowboy stuff, too practical for that. I preferred the IDPA stuff, interesting scenarios and some real world significance.

Speakin' of westerns, Broken Trail is about over. WHATTA GREAT WESTERN MOVIE!!!!

[420Stainless]

I get that feeling everytime I see MCgunner's blackhawk.