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brisbane222
June 24, 2006, 04:45 PM
UN says NRA Hystetrical:)

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New York - A renewed controversy erupted Friday before next week's UN conference on small arms and light weapons, as UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan insisted organization has no plan to take away Americans' right to bear arms.

The US ambassador to the UN, John Bolton, charged that the conference may infringe on Americans' constitutional right to bear weapons.

He vowed to defend that right when the two-week conference opens on Monday, saying that some UN members may have a 'larger agenda' aimed at the US Constitution's Second Amendment, which protects the right to own weapons.

'The message is clear: to the extent that there is a larger different agenda dealing with domestic gun control issues in the US, I don't think that it's an appropriate forum to discuss that,' Bolton said.

'There's nothing further from the truth,' Annan shot back. The officials spoke to reporters separately at UN headquarters in New York.

'It's legitimate that the UN, as an organization of sovereign states, to have concern about the welfare of people and want to do something about and bring order to small arms,' Annan said.

'We are not out to take guns away from the Americans, the intention is to make sure that guns don't get into the wrong hands,' Annan said.

Bolton, who led the US delegation to the 2001 UN conference on small arms and light weapons, said the US position this year around would be 'essentially the same.' The US delegation included a representative from the National Rifle Association, a strong pro-gun lobby group.

The conference was called to review progress made in the past five years to curb the lucrative trade in illicit weapons, which amounts to a quarter of the annual 4-billion-dollar global trade of firearms. Illicit weapons are those not registered by law by the government.

The UN said small arms and light weapons have been responsible for up to 90 per cent of deaths in conflicts around the world. Those weapons are preferred by drug smugglers, organized crime and gangs.

Small arms include hand guns, pistols, rifles, sub-machine guns, mortars, grenade and light missiles while light weapons include heavy machine guns, mounted grenade launchers, anti-tank guns and portable anti-aircraft guns.

A small arms survey by Switzerland said those weapons killed between 80,000 and 108,000 people in conflicts in 2003 and inflicted an estimated 200,000 non-conflict deaths each year.

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jacobtowne
June 24, 2006, 05:02 PM
A small arms survey by Switzerland said those weapons killed between 80,000 and 108,000 people in conflicts in 2003 and inflicted an estimated 200,000 non-conflict deaths each year.

Yea, right. And 95% of automobile fatalites are caused by autos, and 100% of knifings are caused by knives.
JT

hoji
June 24, 2006, 05:04 PM
One word:

Machetes

Third_Rail
June 24, 2006, 05:05 PM
annual 4-billion-dollar global trade of firearms

Is that it? They're worried about only $4b? What's that, a month's worth of the drug trade?

wheelgunslinger
June 24, 2006, 05:34 PM
hmmm... you'd think with all the human rights violations, they'd have their hands full.
Guess not.
I'm glad to see our ambassador sticking up for 2A rights in respect to the UN and Annan.

Zundfolge
June 24, 2006, 05:51 PM
'We are not out to take guns away from the Americans, the intention is to make sure that guns don't get into the wrong hands,' Annan said.
in this context, "wrong" = "civilian".


They wish to stop the "illicit" trade in guns, well here's the definiton of the word illicit according to dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=illicit):

3 entries found for illicit.

1. Not sanctioned by custom or law; unlawful.
2. Linguistics. Improperly formed; ungrammatical.


[Latin illicitus : in-, not; see in-1 + licitus, lawful; see licit.]il·licit·ly adv.
il·licit·ness n.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

Main Entry: il·lic·it
Pronunciation: il-'li-s&t
Function: adjective
: not permitted : UNLAWFUL <an illicit motive to defeat or evade the taxes —In re Haas, 48 Federal Reporter, Third Series 1153 (1995)>

Source: Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

illicit

adj 1: contrary to accepted morality (especially sexual morality) or convention; "an illicit association with his secretary" [ant: licit] 2: contrary to or forbidden by law; "an illegitimate seizure of power"; "illicit trade"; "an outlaw strike"; "unlawful measures" [syn: illegitimate, outlaw(a), outlawed, unlawful]

Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University


So any trade in arms that they believe to be illicit is what they are after. In other words since in many of their member states ANY posession of arms is illegal, then ANY trade in arms would fall under the category of illicit.


The conference was called to review progress made in the past five years to curb the lucrative trade in illicit weapons, which amounts to a quarter of the annual 4-billion-dollar global trade of firearms. Illicit weapons are those not registered by law by the government.


Make no mistake about it, civilian disarmament is the PRIMARY purpose of the UN's conference on small arms and light weapons and Rebecca Peters' IANSA.

Godfather
June 24, 2006, 05:55 PM
As soon as they give me diplomatic immunity, a bulletproof limo, and my own international security service, I might consider giving up a gun or two.

John-Melb
June 24, 2006, 10:29 PM
Don't believe their lies, if Rebecca Peters and IANSA are involved in the process, then they ARE after the privately owned arms of American hunters and collectors, AND are seeking to somehow circumvent the 2nd Amendment.

akodo
June 24, 2006, 11:38 PM
"The conference was called to review progress made in the past five years to curb the lucrative trade in illicit weapons, which amounts to a quarter of the annual 4-billion-dollar global trade of firearms. Illicit weapons are those not registered by law by the government. "

Hum, in the USA most guns are not resistered by law, so most gun transactions here are illicit.

Dmack_901
June 24, 2006, 11:45 PM
...UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan insisted [the] organization has no plan to take away Americans' right to bear arms. And for that reason they are meeting to devolp one. Just filling the last part of the Who, Where, When and How question series.

Nightfall
June 24, 2006, 11:54 PM
'We are not out to take guns away from the Americans, the intention is to make sure that guns don't get into the wrong hands,' Annan said.Problem is, the UN defines the wrong hands as non-gov't hands.

ExtremeDooty
June 24, 2006, 11:55 PM
Is that it? They're worried about only $4b? What's that, a month's worth of the drug trade?

Or a week's worth of "food for oil" profits.

K-Romulus
June 25, 2006, 12:41 AM
30 days ago, IANSA (whose members make up about one-third of the conference attendees) published a manifesto vowing to get the conference to open the 2001 arms agreement to add controls on private firearms ownership, using Australia as the gold standard for domestic laws.

Here is my thread on this:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=201080

Now that the UN has been called out, it is trying to backpedal.:mad:

Geez, get a spine and stand up for what you believe . . .

Zundfolge
June 25, 2006, 07:45 PM
...UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan insisted [the] organization has no plan to take away Americans' right to bear arms.

Remember to leftists, "progressives", Democrats, the ACLU and the UN the 2nd Amendment "right to bear arms" is not an individual right, it is a collective one ... in other words the 2nd Amendment means that Federal and State governments have the right to keep and bear arms.

So Kofi isn't lyin' when he says he has no plan to take away our RKBA :p

Waitone
June 25, 2006, 08:28 PM
Does Kofi's opposition to small arms extend to the full auto MP5's his body guards stored in a security war wagon IN FREAKIN' NOO YARK CITY? How come it is his people get firearms (auto no less) in the gun free paradise of Noo Yark yet little people get nuthin'? I can't hear what Kofi is sayin' 'cause I'm too busy watchin' what he does.

Justin
June 25, 2006, 10:23 PM
...UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan insisted organization has no plan to take away Americans' right to bear arms.

No, of course not. He just advocates abrogating the individual right to bear arms among brown people in 3rd world kleptocratic hellholes.

sparx
June 26, 2006, 01:53 PM
As soon as they give me diplomatic immunity, a bulletproof limo, and my own international security service, I might consider giving up a gun or two.
Not me... they aren't worth the spit on the sidewalk in my book, let alone worthy enough to even *look* at one of my guns.

mainmech48
June 26, 2006, 02:10 PM
Mr. Annan also announced the appointment of actor/comedian John Lovitz to be his new press liason, and stated that all future questions on this matter be refered to him. Mr. Lovitz will be using his "Tommy Flanagin" personna in his new position, as it is the one most appropriate for the role.

Punkermonkey
June 26, 2006, 02:29 PM
...UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan insisted organization has no plan to take away Americans' right to bear arms.

How arrogant can you get! He says it like we need their permission. What happened to inaliable rights?

Do you really think George Washington and the other founding fathers would approve of the UN?

I don't think so!

Checkman
June 26, 2006, 02:57 PM
Koffi Annan is full of it. I wish the ******* U.N. would move to Canada or France.

Travis McGee
June 26, 2006, 04:55 PM
http://0cents.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/Stamp_Image_UN_Blue_Helmet.jpg

ctdonath
June 26, 2006, 11:43 PM
UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan insisted organization has no plan to take away Americans' right to bear arms. Funny how the tune changed after being reminded by hundreds of thousands of Americans, in turn representing millions, that we're heavily armed and plan to keep it that way.

Fred Fuller
June 27, 2006, 08:58 AM
Arms in the hands of governments have been responsible for the deaths of millions of people in the 20th century- THEIR OWN PEOPLE. And the UN has pretensions at being a global governing body. What does this tell you about the potential for abuse at the hands of an overarching government body?

One academician has made a lifelong study of what he refers to as democide- death by government. If you are not yet fmiliar with his work, you should be. Power kills- absolute power kills absolutely.

See below...

lpl/nc
=====================

DEMOCIDE: MURDER BY GOVERNMENT

Governments have murdered hundreds of millions of their citizens and those under their control. The questions are, then, how is this democide defined, is genocide included, how many have been killed, how do we find this out, and what sources can be used?

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.TAB1.2.GIF

Ira Aten
June 27, 2006, 09:21 AM
Quote below from the Head United Nations "Oil For Food Program" Co-Conspirator:


'...It's legitimate that the UN, as an organization of sovereign states, to have concern about the welfare of people and want to do something about and bring order to small arms,' Annan said.

'We are not out to take guns away from the Americans, the intention is to make sure that guns don't get into the wrong hands,' Annan said...


He wants to"bring "order" to small arms? Like in Somalia? Rawanda? Sudan?

They are "concerned about the welfare of people"? Like the concern they showed for people in Somalia? Rawanda? Sudan?

They wish to make sure "guns don't get into the wrong hands"? Like they made sure did not occur in Somalia, Rawanda, and Sudan?


The majority of the Representatives from these so called "sovereign states" he mentions in his self serving description, are mainly thugs who represent Despots and Dictators.

The United States government needs to deport ALL U.N. personnel and oficially withdraw itself from membership and association with the "Global Villagers" currently working to establish a "One World Government".

orangelo
June 27, 2006, 09:56 AM
“We believe that no armed group outside of the State should be allowed to bear weapons. We also believe that regulating civilian possession of Small Arms/Light Weapons will enhance our efforts to prevent its misuse. In our view, the issue of ammunition should also be addressed in the context of the Program of Action because in the absence of ammunition, small arms and light weapons pose no danger.”

Actual words of a delegate at the gun grab conference.

Number 6
June 27, 2006, 09:59 AM
http://www.un.org/events/smallarms2006/faq.html

Carl N. Brown
July 3, 2006, 02:22 PM
I re-watched the DVD of The Great Great UN Gun Debate
from the Library of King's College, London, 2004, where
Rebecca Peters, International Action Network on Small Arms,
and Wayne LaPierre, National Rifle Assocoation of America,
debated the motion:
"Should the United States Senate support the proposed
United Nations treaty that bans private ownership of guns?"

"Should the United States Senate support the proposed
United Nations treaty that bans private ownership of guns?"

IANSA clearly wants to use the UN Conference
on Small Arms and Light Weapons to ban private
ownership of guns and to confiscate privately owned
guns as they did in Australia: only Peters calls
bans and confiscation "reform of regulation," It's
not a ban because they leave some things legal

Has no one noticed the source of thw original article?

Waltzing Matilda, waltzing Matilda,
You'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me....

danurve
July 4, 2006, 09:02 AM
http://0cents.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/Stamp_Image_UN_Blue_Helmet.jpg
I see brother Travis had the same idea.:)
So I thought yesterday would be a good idea to take my son out to the range.
Together, we would like to wish the UN a happy 4th. of July.

http://huntny.us/images/july4plus.jpg

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