Why Advertise Your Aquisitions?


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Guyon
January 4, 2003, 09:17 AM
Ran across this site while searching on Google. http://www.courter.org/guns/index.html Nice collection, but I don't see the wisdom in broadcasting the fact that three small deadbolts are all that protect this collection (well, in the pics anyway...this guy might have a moat, alarm, motions sensors, big dog, etc.).

Which brings me to my question...

Instead of a "Show me your guns" thread, this is a "Why don't you show me your guns?" thread. Are others like me in that they don't like everyone to know what they own? Or am I just paranoid?

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Tamara
January 4, 2003, 09:43 AM
The contents of my collection shift around too much to do a page like that.

If you want to climb the wire and shoot your way past the guards & dogs to take 'em, be my guest. ;)

Mike
January 4, 2003, 09:52 AM
Yes, you probably are paranoid. But like you, I'm reticent to post pictures or running inventories of what I own.

Count me in the paranoid category too. :uhoh:

Hkmp5sd
January 4, 2003, 10:28 AM
I don't post complete listings of everything I have, but I do like talking about some of them. Everyone that knows me is aware I have a bunch of guns, but they also know I have safes, animals, monitored alarms, neighborhood watch and any other deterent I can come up with. I also make sure they know I have a C&R FFL, which means its a federal crime to go for my guns, so not just the local Barney Fife will be chasing a thief.

80fl
January 4, 2003, 10:28 AM
I have my tin foil hat firmly planted. And NO, I will not divulge whether I have 1 BB gun or 2.

waterdog
January 4, 2003, 10:28 AM
I am not paranoid.

I just don't allow strangers into my home.

Even though I am like most folks in these here forums, you all are still strangers.

It would be asking a woman whom you barely know, how many sex partners she has had, or if she has
any STDs.

It's just, none of your business!

waterdog

10-Ring
January 4, 2003, 12:16 PM
I use to think the same way. Then I realized enough people know what I have that it really doesn't matter if I advertise or not. Plus, it's a pride of ownership thing too.

Diesle
January 4, 2003, 12:26 PM
Dont know what the liabilies to the owner are, but I enjoyed his site! Very informative.

Diesle

2dogs
January 4, 2003, 12:27 PM
Are others like me in that they don't like everyone to know what they own? Or am I just paranoid?

Well, I don't know you so I don't know what you own- you are just a name on a screen.:)

As far as the "gummint", well they already know.:neener:

Ledbetter
January 4, 2003, 02:19 PM
how many
worth
where
my birthdate
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Bill Adair
January 4, 2003, 02:51 PM
Probably not a good idea to post your firearms inventory on an open forum, unless using a screen name that can't be traced.

Even then, most of us openly discuss our guns with others, so a search on our ID, can give a pretty good idea to anyone interested.

My guns are protected by a safe bolted to the structure, and our dogs (doberman and pit bull) alert us to any intrusions, and would probably greet any stranger with less then friendly enthusiasm. :D

I say probably, because we have never found a live intruder in our home to ask. :D ;)

Bill

ZekeLuvs1911
January 4, 2003, 02:54 PM
What does it matter if you show your collection like that? If you are paranoid about the government looking for them, all that have to do is look up the purchase records. Anyone who wants to break in and steal that collection.....well they just might have to get pass that collection just to break in.

vulcan
January 4, 2003, 04:01 PM
What guns?:p

HankL
January 4, 2003, 04:10 PM
Displayed on his own web page might not be the best idea in the world. It only took a few secs. to determine his name, address and phone number. ;) Besides, he needs to get a bigger room if he wants to do some serious investing.

sasnofear
January 4, 2003, 04:15 PM
chances of someone robbing you are slim so it doesnt matter either way

waterdog
January 4, 2003, 04:22 PM
I would challenge anyone here to, find out how many firearms I own, based any info you may able to gather from these forums or other.

It has nothing to do with paranoia, it is the state of our communities that sets the tone for my reluctance to divulge information I consider private. Some would call it, mindset condition (YELLOW).

I think a lot folks just want to show off their material goods, I am not a materialistic person, so I don't think that way.

I have never been impressed, with another mans possesions.

Having a lot of money or possesions, doesn't make them a better person, or a more honest person, or a more loyal person.

It is the scum of the earth, that posses the most. Drug lords, dictators, politicians, and of course the worst of the worst international bankers.

So, mind your own, and I will mind mine.

waterdog

AR-10
January 4, 2003, 04:50 PM
I don't mind listing calibers, but lists of firearms or numbers of firearms or explicit storage information seem like too much information.

The government does not have a clue what I own. They may know what I have purchased, but private sales are legal here, and what I have on paper is not expected to be an acurate inventory of what I own. I am not paranoid of them, just pointing out that they don't know everything, and I ain't giving a hand.

From the looks of the "vault" the gentleman on that website is using, a good shoulder would be all that is required to gain entry. I would definitely not advertise that on the World Wide Web. Looks like an invitation from here.

armabill
January 4, 2003, 07:24 PM
I don't have any. Contributions accepted!

Blackhawk
January 4, 2003, 07:38 PM
Paranoia is an acquired trait.

No way am I going to tell the world what I don't think is any of its business.

Redlg155
January 4, 2003, 08:38 PM
Sure, I post on here on my new "toys", but that pretty much is the extent of things.

I'm more concerned with individuals in the neighborhood than intenet thugs. But then all the individuals in my neighborhood see me in my uniform prior to going to work. I'm sure that has deterred more than one potential idiot.

It's simple to them...they steal my guns or harm my family and I WILL see you again. They know that and I don't think they want to chance it. :D

Good Shooting
RED

ArmySon
January 4, 2003, 09:50 PM
I enjoy digital photography so I've posted pictures of various firearms here and there. However, I've never posted pictures or a detail listing of all my firearms.

On the other hand, if an individual wishes to break into my residence and he succeeds in stealing my collection, he's one amazing thief ;)

bad_dad_brad
January 4, 2003, 09:55 PM
That is what insurance is for. Suggest you get a personal article policy (PAP) and insure your firearms for replacement value. Yes, I work for an insurance company!

Felonious Monk
January 4, 2003, 11:01 PM
waterdog,

You're family since you're part of the TFL/THR fraternity, so I'll tell you like I'd tell a brother:

There is enough info and enough technology via reverse DNS lookups, IP trace tools, and so on, that unless you're using an anonymous browser, it is very feasible to pinpoint your location.

Once the address is gotten, it's simply a matter of checking city and county records for all the legal FFL transfers and purchases you've made.
And that's without finding any additional nuggets of info in the process.

Gunshows, face-to-face deals, and bartered transactions notwithstanding, I'd encourage you NOT to issue that kind of challenge on an internet forum.

Don't stir up the pirates.
HTH!
FM

Tamara
January 4, 2003, 11:48 PM
I think a lot folks just want to show off their material goods, I am not a materialistic person, so I don't think that way.

I know you're going to find this whacked, but a lot of us here (are you ready for this?) like guns!

*gasp*

Because we like guns, we like talking to other people who like guns.

Because we all like guns, we like telling our fellow gun-likers about the new gun we saw that we liked so much that we bought it.

Far-fetched, I know, but ponder it for a while.

WilderBill
January 4, 2003, 11:54 PM
I have posted one picture on TFL.
I didn't give any listing otherwise.
I encourage everyone to stick to private sales and leave no trace of where they came from or where they went.

Kahr carrier
January 5, 2003, 02:15 AM
No I dont think you are paranoid,but I do think it is funny when either people you know or dont know ask you how many guns you own. My own answer MYOB,or I dont recall.:neener:

Tamara
January 5, 2003, 08:19 AM
You know, I don't think I've seen a single thread titled "Hey, Kahr carrier! How many guns do you own?" ;)

It's amusing when people post "None of your blankety-blank business!" in those kind of threads, when (if they really wanted to keep a low profile) they wouldn't even click on those threads at all... ;)

Kentucky Rifle
January 5, 2003, 12:30 PM
If I had the capability (and the talent), I'd love to post a picture or two. A lot of the fun of a new acquisition is talking to you guys about it.
My car was broken into. I built a garage. When I lived in an apartment, I was alone and deeply asleep on the waterbed. I didn't even hear the jerk break in. However, I heard him in my kitchen when he knocked a pan out of a cabinet. (What COULD he have been looking for in my kitchen cabinet??? Drugs?) <shrug> He left "post haste" as I was coming.:cuss:

KR

JeepDriver
January 5, 2003, 12:32 PM
I have gun owning friends that think I crazy for being a member of the Gun Boards. They think we are all a bunch of right wing militia types. Me personal I'm a mechanic that like to shoot. No militia involvement here.
They are paranoid.

I figure if the Feds want to come after our gun they don't need to listen in on us here. They know what we have already. As far as someone getting the idea to steal my gun, go ahead. If you get past the alarm system and the ill-tempered Black Lab you still have a Browning Gun safe to get through.

waterdog
January 5, 2003, 12:42 PM
Felonious Monk, I know there are internet ways to find me.

Because I live AZ, there wouldn't be any Pre-Brady info available at the state, county or city levels, for those acquisitions.

Private sales records, NON EXISTANT!

Now there are some post-Brady records, but they only indicate a backround check was done by a particular FFL.

If then, a visit was made to one or several FFLs asking about me, I would get a phone call, and that person or persons search would be terminated.

Private citizens do not have access to 4473s.

waterdog

HankL
January 5, 2003, 03:15 PM
Why not show a few of them? They are 100% legal and well secured.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid19/p6d50f2f52655b242694408c25c69f377/fdc47256.jpg

As for telling you how many I own don't ask because I really don't know. My wife probably knows however. :uhoh:

Gewehr98
January 5, 2003, 08:53 PM
When are they ever gonna get the chance to see a pre-ban M14NM without driving to Nevada or registering with the ********** Department of Justice?

http://mauser98.com/m14nmbench.jpg

RoyRapoport
January 6, 2003, 06:13 AM
Guns?

What are those?

Hkmp5sd
January 6, 2003, 06:32 AM
Gewehr98,

I don't live in ********** and I still don't see an M14 that nice very often!

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