700 Accuracy


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30-06 lover
June 29, 2006, 04:47 AM
I have been trying to bring myself to buy a Rem 700 SPS the last six months or so, but I am just worried I won't get a "shooter". On average, what kind of accuracy can I get from a stock 700 with no mods except a mid priced scope? How does (did) you stocked 700 shoot? Thanks!!!
-Mike

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nyresq
June 29, 2006, 01:36 PM
the trigger as set from the factory is a lawyers dream and a shooters nightmare. but don't despare, the factory 700 trigger is adjustable.

http://www.snipercountry.com/Articles/RemingtonTriggers.asp

the instruction are easy to follow and when your done the gun will shoot ten times better then new.

I bought a shilen trigger for my heavy barrel .308, but decided not to use it after I adjusted the stock trigger to a very crisp 2.5 lbs.

quality control is pretty good at remington with the cdl and bdl lines, but I can't speak for the sps. I heard the SPS was the "cheaper version" that remington was making, so I may look for a 700 a couple of years old that was new in the box on gun broker or someplace like that.

but the 700 action is bomb proof as far as I am concerned. Keep in mind te us military has been using the 700 action on all its precision and target bolt guns for over twenty years, so there must be a reason...

2400
June 29, 2006, 01:47 PM
The advice on the trigger is on the money, I adjusted the one on my wifes rifle. My wife's SPS is in 223 and it shoots under 3/4" with 9 different loads and under 1/2" with 2 loads.

MIL-DOT
June 29, 2006, 01:57 PM
i got a PSS from a local dealer at a gunshow about two years ago,then put on a leupold MK4 PR ,30mm. tube, mil-dot reticle, 4.5-14 power (i think) with leapold standard rings and bases (all from midway, i believe) . when i got it i hadn't been shooting in years,i've had no special training other than annual rifle qualifying in the marines 20+ years ago (well, i guess did shoot "expert" ;) .but i ain't no trained sniper.)
i went semi-regularly to a range/club on fort benning then ditched that in favor of a 2000 yard stretch of abandonded train tracks up in the sticks,closer to home. my goal was to hit a man-sized target (oops,sorry. gender discrimination). i mean PERSON-sized target from 1000 yards. i'm guessing i shot 15-30 rounds at a time, maybe a dozen "shoots" before i was putting them where i wanted them,and this was mostly shooting those $27 south african-nato battle-packs. i guess the point of this unsollicited,rambling biography is that if i can do that with my stock PSS, should be good enough for you,too !!

MTMilitiaman
June 29, 2006, 03:36 PM
Our family has at least half a dozen different M700s spread over several decades and not a one of them couldn't be made to shoot MOA or better from the bench with a little load selection. Most do better than that with their pet handloads.

The two latest M700s we bought (with the stupid J-locks) have had really heavy triggers. It sucks, but isn't a huge problem. A trigger job is all that is needed.

danurve
June 29, 2006, 04:02 PM
I have been trying to bring myself to buy a Rem 700 SPS the last six months or so, but I am just worried I won't get a "shooter". On average, what kind of accuracy can I get from a stock 700 with no mods except a mid priced scope? How does (did) you stocked 700 shoot? Thanks!!!
-Mike

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700 vls stock, haven't had any work done to the trigger but a visit to my favorite gunshop is due. Shooting with a budget Sportview scope even, my budget - says getting the trigger done will probably happen before a glass upgrade.

MachIVshooter
June 29, 2006, 11:44 PM
On average, what kind of accuracy can I get from a stock 700 with no mods except a mid priced scope?

MOA or better.

30-06 lover
June 30, 2006, 02:17 AM
Thank you all for the replies!!! It looks like a trip to the gun shop next month!!! Maybe you can answer this beaten to death question...


308 VS 30-06.

CCWMAN
June 30, 2006, 03:00 AM
The 700 does not compare with my Steyr Model M with double-set triggers in your favorite .30-06 caliber! I have other rifles so I'm selling this one. You can email me at gilbert159@hotmail.com if you're interested.:D

Also the .30-06 is a better hunting caliber if you wanna hunt heavier animals with heavier bullets, hit them harder, and reach out farther. The .30-06 is more versatile but has a bit more recoil. Get my Steyr-it's the best .30-06 you'll find.

halvey
June 30, 2006, 12:32 PM
308 VS 30-06. Same bullets, just burning more powder with the 06.:neener:

Seriously, the 308 will do anything you need or want it to do. Just kind of a preference really. With the 308 you will get a bit less recoil. I like short actions, but to some, it's not a big deal.

C-grunt
June 30, 2006, 02:53 PM
I had a 700 in 7 mag and it would shoot under 2 inches with every load I tried. It would shoot 1 inch groups with some loads. Im not a great rifle shooter anyways, so this is pretty good for a hunting rifle.

As far as .308 vs 30-06, I think you can get some more power out of the 06. I have never seen a .308 with 200 or 220 grn bullets. They might exist, but I havent seen them. I think the 30-06 might be the better choice for large animals.

270Win
June 30, 2006, 04:27 PM
Agreed with MOA or better; both of mine have been sub-MOA out of the box with the right ammo, handloads just improve it even more.

KINGMAX
June 30, 2006, 06:58 PM
I have just bought a 700 ADL in .270 this past month. I love it. It is a great shooter. I have groups at 100-125 yards I can cover w/ a penny to a quarter. I put a Bushnell 4-12 x 40 scope on it. :) No complaints here. Good luck on yours, go ahead - commit and get - :evil:

mljdeckard
July 1, 2006, 03:34 AM
I have owned a 700 VS in .308, a PSS in 308, and my father has a VSSF in 22-250. We are far from experts, but the reason we use these is to take for granted that it is US that needs to improve, NOT the rifle. I did make a few batches of 168 gr. BTHP that got me less than 1" over sandbags. The 22-250 has never put any bullet anywhere other than exactly where it was aimed, but we don't take full advantage of its potential, we only shoot it out to 300 yards or so. (Coyotes.)

Last month my father was handed off an older model medium weight 700 in '06, with a beat up Burris scope. We took it out with a box of 200s, and proceeded to put every one of them through 2". I can't think of anything I can't do with a 700. I just bought a rock chucker setup and the appropriate dies, this is the project for the summer, to REALLY learn what the hell we are doing. (I still consider myself very much an amateur.)

The Steyr might be fantastic, FN makes precision lines, you can get lots of rifles that might well be better than a stock Remington 700. A good friend of my dad's specializes in building custom rifles on Mauser actions that are the best I've ever shot. The question for myself, and MOST OTHER SHOOTERS I KNOW, is: "Are you really a good enough shot with the rifles you have to justify getting a better one?"

Sure, I would love a .308 set up in a AI stock with all the trimmings, but until I really nail the fundamentals for good, with all the knowledge of all the loads tested, it's a waste of money. I've sold $3,500 guitars to guys who really can't play at all. I was happy to get the commission, but it's a waste of money.

txgolfer45
July 2, 2006, 01:04 PM
Nickel size groups at 100 yds with my stock 700 ADL in .270 with a Leopold VX-I 3-9X50 scope and Remington Core-Lokt Express ammo.

Scott

KimberTLE.45
July 2, 2006, 06:34 PM
I have a 24" BBL Remington 700 SPS 30-06 (leupold vx-III 4-12x40) that I can shoot nickel sized groups at 100 yds. I have a 22" BBL Remington 700 ADL 30-06 (leupold VX-II 3-9x40) that I can shoot quarter sized groups at 100 yds. This is with factory ammo.

Bullet Bob
July 3, 2006, 07:42 AM
"The 700 does not compare with my Steyr Model M with double-set triggers in your favorite .30-06 caliber! I have other rifles so I'm selling this one. You can email me at .."

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It's so good, he's selling it?

My 700 isn't for sale.

atblis
July 3, 2006, 09:27 AM
is in a whole other class. That is reflected in the price unfortunately.

Sam Adams
July 3, 2006, 12:15 PM
I am certainly no expert, having started shooting at age 28, 17 years ago. I didn't even get my 700 until about 1995, and haven't put more than about 400 rounds through it. It is a .308 VS, with a used Burris 4.5-14 on top. My experience has been that factory ammo (even Fed GM) rots, even off of the bench - but with a decent handload I can bring it down to about MOA. Needless to say, I need to work on both myself and the handloads, but I am extremely satisfied with the 700.

I recently got a trigger job done for about $50 (it is down to about 3.5 pounds, hardly benchrest territory, but I'm not interested in that), and I've put some of the David Tubb Final Finish bullets through the barrel to smooth it out a bit. Those things - together with practice, practice, practice - ought to get me comfortably under MOA. My goal is to be able to consistently put holes in the quarters of various anti-gun states from 100 yards - with my former home of NJ being first on the list.

gunslinger15
July 3, 2006, 04:53 PM
I have a new 700 in 270win. Its stock and will shoot 1/2'' groups at hundred yard easy. You do your part and the 700 will be one of the most reliable and acurate guns you'll own.
-Gunslinger15

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