.22 lr vs .22 sr


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shattered00
June 29, 2006, 02:06 PM
I have a .22 Winchester M 74 which shoots .22 lr. Can it also shoot .22 sr?

What is the difference between the two?

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Outlaws
June 29, 2006, 02:12 PM
sr? I assume you mean S for short.

I don't think so. The 74 if I recall is a autoloader. It will be marked on the barrel where it says 22LR if it can shoot shorts. Normally it would say ".22 short, long, & long rifle" or ".22 S, L, LR". But most autoloaders won't feed what they are not designed around.

shermacman
June 29, 2006, 02:26 PM
I would be real careful! I had a friend who had a Win 74 and it was an auto-loader. But it was .22 short only.
Many tube fed and bolt operated .22's will eat all kinds of .22 ammo, but not the semi's.

shattered00
June 29, 2006, 02:51 PM
I am not sure how to classify this gun. Is tube feed separate from an autoloader?

This gun is a tube feed, but it shoots semi-auto. Would that still make it an autoloader?

It definitely says .22 LR on the side. I just didnt know if .22 S was a shorter version that could still be fired.

The reason I ask is because I have an H&R 6-shot revolver that is chambered for .22 S and .22 M (magnum I think) - 2 separate cylinders. I wanted to see if I could buy the same ammunition for both guns (.22 S.)

Outlaws
June 29, 2006, 02:59 PM
Tube fed can be auto loading or bolt action or lever action...maybe even mroe I can't think of or know about. But tube fed doesn't mean it gets to take whatever you want....just most bolt actions that are tube fed will. (most...not all)

The only model 74 I have seen in person was tube fed from the butt plate. Very cool!

shattered00
June 29, 2006, 04:20 PM
Yeah it is a pretty nifty gun. The tube feed is in the butt stock, and it holds around 15 rounds. The bolt pops out via this button at the stock-end of the barrel. I have yet to see a gun like it (I have seen few guns in my life so that might be why though ahah). Yall are actually the first people to seem to konw what model I am talking about, as I have posted here about this gun many times before with no hands-on info coming from anyone. It is a pain to take apart beyond that, however, because it has so many pins and lots of parts that require great dexterity and a lot of patience.

So what is the difference between a .22 L, LR, M and S? Is it just hte length of the cartdrige or bullet?

BADSBSNF81
June 29, 2006, 05:16 PM
Case length is the difference.

rangerruck
June 29, 2006, 05:28 PM
i would only shoot lr's through that. if it does not say l, or s.

Roadwild17
June 29, 2006, 05:32 PM
I believe most shorts dont have the power to cycle the bolt back. For the mistake my dad made (put s in my lr auto) you just had to manually cycle the bolt after each round.

Outlaws
June 29, 2006, 06:27 PM
A Long (while not pictured) is basically a 22LR but with the bullet of a Short...so theoredically, a 22LR is a 22L with a bigger bullet.

A 22 Magnum is completely different. A 22s,l, or lr can not be fired from the chamber of a 22 Mag...that is why some revolvers have seperate cylinders for the 22 and the 22mag.


(the .22 cbc can also be bought in a 22 short version form CCI called the .22 short CB)
http://battletone.com/guns/22s.jpg

miko
June 29, 2006, 06:31 PM
Most 22lr autoloaders would not cycle reliably with non standard-velocity ammo or even some brands of hi-velocity ammo, let alone a weak 22 short.

miko

gunlover_06
June 29, 2006, 08:44 PM
SHATTERD00 do not want to sound mean with this reply but i would suggest that you not handle another gun until you have had some training with someone who is capable of showing you the difference in case length and caliber even the 22 i would even suggest taking a hunter safety class.
Educate yourself if for no other reason but the safety of yourself and any one who may be with you while handling a firearm.:banghead: :eek:

hksw
June 29, 2006, 09:20 PM
So what is the difference between a .22 L, LR, M and S? Is it just hte length of the cartdrige or bullet?

Case length is the difference.

The case length for the .22 long and long rifle are the same. Bullet lengths are different.

To complicate things a little more, some ammo such as CCI's Stinger is classified as .22 lr but has a longer case length than the .22 lr but the overall length is the same.

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