My Mom is an anti!


June 29, 2006, 05:03 PM
Just as stated, my mom is an anti. I don’t know how this happened. When I was 15 I used to work at the gun show and one day I had my boss come home. I told my mom "There’s a good deal on a glock there (it was a g 17 with 3 17rd mags for $350)" and my boss said she could use her ffl to buy it then sell it to my mom for $1. My mom said yes and the next night I "owned" a Glock at 15. Fast-forward 6 years later & Last night I was looking up a shotgun (a long barrel hunting version mind you) and she goes off about, "your never going to own another gun if I can do anything about it, that 'black handgun' is going to get you in trouble, what do you need another one for?" I just didn’t know what had happened, we have about 20 different guns in the house and all of a sudden BAM she’s anti.:confused:

Any thoughts on changing her mind?

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June 29, 2006, 05:13 PM
Find a good girl and move out...

June 29, 2006, 05:22 PM
There's guns in the house.. OK, they're must have been approval sometime. I suppose mom could have a valid reason, like how and where you're carrying your little plastic gun. Mom's get to do that. Having one as a teenager was a no-no. Unless it's something you and a parent were practicing with at the range, in a controlled setting. My young teens shoot pistols with me, and I'm thinking of allowing one to compete against me later this year. That said, It's probably good that you and the folks sit down, and discuss this in a civil manner. Find out what the issues are. My wife and mom think that I own too many guns, but I think they have too many pairs of shoes. So-be-it. I'm bringin home the bacon! And I don't live under mommy's roof.

Don't leave home just over this. Wait till things are cooled down. Then leave. You're 21. Mommy doesn't need to be telling you what to do now. (as long as you're not living under her roof. If you are, you need to abide by house rules.)

Have a good sit down talk.


June 29, 2006, 05:22 PM
Ask ? Very poilitely and solicitously!

June 29, 2006, 05:27 PM
I graduate college in another year and I only stay at home for the summer so I guess eather get one while at college and just hide it :evil: or hang it out for a year. Eather way, it was verry suprising.

I never carryed and untill I turned 21 it still had the box of 100 rnds. we bought the day I got the gun :what: I know, a sad story :o that gun was starving.

June 29, 2006, 05:28 PM
Late 40's, Early 50's female maybe?

June 29, 2006, 05:33 PM
Late 40's, Early 50's female maybe?


I have an idea. Sell the water pistol and get a real gun that doesn't trigger your mom's latent racist tendencies.

If the gun isn't black, it's no problem, right?

June 29, 2006, 05:41 PM
I've seen this pattern before.

Folks who are nominally supportive of RKBA throw on the brakes when they notice a large (to them) number of guns that exceeds some threshold in their mind as to what's proper.

Talk it out, patiently, to see what the underlying deal really is.

June 29, 2006, 05:44 PM
when they notice a large (to them) number of guns that exceeds some threshold in their mind

Yeah. The important thing is to make sure that no one really notices.

If you have, say, 10 Mosin carbines, but there's only one out in the open at a time, few people would suspect that you have 10 of them.:D

BTW storage units are really cheap. Like $10-20 a month for one big enough to hold more guns than you could count.

June 30, 2006, 10:33 AM
If you put your guns in a storage shed, I would suggest that you never tell anyone about it. Those things get broken into all the time, and one guy in my town recently had his guns stolen from storage shed by his DIL who needed a fix.

She and her buds (not the husband) cut through the fencing and lock on the shed and cleaned him out.

June 30, 2006, 10:39 AM
i live with mom and dad too....they didnt really like me having all the shotguns and rifles, but when i bought a pistol they were like omg!!
ill always be a gun owner and ill probably just keep adding, if your 18 your parents will get over it.....Just make sure you act responsible and dont do anything stupid

Vitamin G
June 30, 2006, 11:10 AM
When I was graciously permited to live with my parents from the end of college (2002) until i finished graduate school (2005), i found that my mother was generally indifferent to firearms, only lamenting how much they cost me. She'd much rather have preferred that I saved the money for my doctorate (which I'll get eventually), or even put a higher % in my 401k. My father on the other hand, was indifferent in the "wow, cool, neat. Go to the Range? Nah, thanks though" kind of way.
I found that a little strange, since they BOTH had ccw permits in the mid 90's. I never bothered to ask why the incongruence. Come to think of it, i just realized it. I didn't get "into" firearms until about 2002, and by then they stopped carrying.

Hmm... something to ask about this weekend.

June 30, 2006, 04:51 PM
If you put your guns in a storage shed, I would suggest that you never tell anyone about it.

No, I recommend renting a commercial storage unit, the kind with 24 hour attendants and video surveillance, locks everywhere, etc. Don't just get a shed!:rolleyes:

And when you stash the guns there, put them in cardboard boxes that aren't long and skinny. Don't tell ANYONE about it or what's in it.

(Hardshell travel golf club carriers can be stuffed with rifles, too. Thanks to Doc Zinn for the idea.)

June 30, 2006, 05:14 PM

June 30, 2006, 05:19 PM

Woman who shot attacker tells story

Friday, September 17, 2004
By Jim McKinnon, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Her nervous fingers gripped the handle of the .38-caliber revolver tucked in the pocket of her sweatpants.

She couldn't see clearly. Her eyes crossed as they focused on the barrel of a .22-caliber rifle inches from her nose.

Charmaine Dunbar, a 44-year-old mother of three, refocused her gaze in the predawn light. Mental images flashed before her.

"He said, 'Stand there so I can shoot you.' He looked like a devil," Dunbar said yesterday.

The man she said confronted her, Daniel Wesley, 27, is on trial on charges that he raped or sexually assaulted eight women and girls in the East End two years ago.

Dunbar's first encounter with Wesley, whom she identified yesterday in court, was at about 3:45 a.m. Oct. 10, 2002. She survived it. Her second encounter came just a while later, and, that time, she not only survived but conquered.

Dunbar did not know her attacker. He wore a gray hooded sweat shirt covering much of his head, and baggy blue jeans with the cuffs rolled up. The long-barreled rifle had been pulled from his waistband and the roomy leg of his jeans.

Dunbar, who works as a security guard, was prepared for the dangerous Homewood streets. She carried her pistol in her pocket just in case.

Still, she was not quite ready in their first meeting when Wesley pulled the rifle on Murtland Avenue, where she was walking her dog, Jagger. He had been stooped behind a car and stood and raised the weapon toward her when she walked by.

"Please, don't shoot," she said.

Dunbar could not get to her gun. Instead, she ran. With Jagger on a leash and Wesley chasing her, Dunbar began yelling for neighbors to call police.

Eventually a woman looked out a window and dialed 911. Wesley stopped, tucked the rifle back into his pants and walked away.

For about 45 minutes, Dunbar rode around the neighborhood with a police officer searching unsuccessfully for her attacker.

After returning home, she told the officer that she wanted to finish her exercise.

"He had interrupted my walk, my routine. It was almost light outside," Dunbar said. "I didn't know he had raped those other women," saying she believes Wesley is guilty of the assaults.

Each woman has testified and identified Wesley at trial before a jury of seven men and five women in the courtroom of Common Pleas Judge Gerard M. Bigley.

Just two days before the showdown with Dunbar, Wesley had raped another woman in East Liberty after choking her into unconsciousness, according to that woman's testimony Wednesday.

The suspect might not be in custody if not for his second meeting with Dunbar.

She had resumed her exercise when, on Brushton Avenue, she caught sight of a figure in the corner of her eye.

Dunbar said she and Jagger began to run up the hill on Brushton. Wesley pursued, dragging one leg stiffly because of the concealed rifle.

When he got close, she said she commented to him about how trying it was to get up that hill. Wesley agreed, bending at the waist and resting his hands on his knees.

She walked a bit farther and decided she was at a disadvantage with him behind her. So, she stopped near the corner of Stranahan Street, leaned against a fence and took the gun from her pocket. The sleeve of her sweat shirt concealed the weapon.

When Wesley appeared, he was smiling.

Moving into the moon's backlighting, Wesley began to raise the rifle and Dunbar said she fired twice from her .38, striking him in the abdomen.

"He just stood there, like he didn't know he was shot," Dunbar said. "Then he fell."

Dunbar ran home to get her father, Silver Barnett, and to call police. When the pair returned to the scene, Wesley was gone.

They found him about 100 feet away, lying in the doorway of a home.

When officers arrived, he told them that Dunbar and her brother had tried to rob him.

While one officer explained to Dunbar that she had a right to remain silent, other officers searched the vicinity and found the rifle. It had been ditched in the brush between where Wesley was shot and where he was found wounded.

"I was real nervous," Dunbar said of her ordeal. She will not be charged in the shooting.

"I didn't think I'd killed him," she said. "I wasn't trying to kill him. I was just trying to keep him off of me."

"I felt glad that I caught him," Dunbar said after learning that Wesley was the primary suspect in the sexual assaults.

Defense attorney Erika Kreisman said Wesley turned down a plea agreement under which he would admit the rapes and be sentenced to 25 to 50 years in prison. She said he denies committing any of the assaults. If convicted, he faces a possible sentence of more than 100 years.

Testimony will resume today.

June 30, 2006, 05:22 PM
I'd say talk to her about it.

Often the concern is more that you're buying a bunch of "toys" with money that they feel would be better applied towards saving, vehicles, college, finding your own place to live, etc.

June 30, 2006, 05:31 PM
money that they feel would be better applied towards saving, vehicles, college, finding your own place to live, etc.

Yeah, parents can have their priorities ALL messed up sometimes!:D

June 30, 2006, 10:54 PM
Don't even get me started on my parents. They are as anti as you can get without joining the Brady bunch.

July 1, 2006, 05:12 AM
we have about 20 different guns in the house and all of a sudden BAM she’s anti

My first though on reading this is that you have blown all your money on guns, rather than getting an education and your own place.

Start paying her $300 a month for rent, bring it up to $500 if she does your laundry and feeds you.

Because she is right, that black gun is doing bad stuff to you. All things in moderation man. Us gun types are always having to fight off the 'I want I want' demon, so we can take care of other finantial issues.

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