Steyr AUG


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Riktoven
July 3, 2006, 10:29 AM
I've heard rumors that Steyr may begin manufacturing semi-only AUGs in the US in the next 18 months, anyone know if there's any truth to that?


I got to put one mag through a select fire AUG when I was a teen, thought it was the coolest thing ever.

Has anyone here had much exposure to the rifle? I am looking at buying one expensive toy either this comming tax season or next, and right now the top options are the AR-15 (no preference on manufacturers yet), the Robinson XCR, the Steyr AUG (if this rumor is true), and on the larger end, a DSA FAL or maybe the FN SCAR H if we ever see that beast.

I've got tons of research to do before a decision is made, but I'd really like opinions of the AUG. Comparisons to the AR-15 are more than welcome. I'm especially curious to know how the civilian trigger on the AUG would work and feel.
What kind of accuracy are AUGs known for? Any major design defects that I should be aware of?

Pretty much any info not on world guns.ru would be appreciated.

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Fosbery
July 3, 2006, 10:37 AM
Semi-auto AUGs are already around. They Steyr USR is basically a civilian AUG A2. Only a few thousand of them in the States though, so rather pricey. I've used an AUG A2 and I loved it. Very ergonomic, very accurate, very compact. And a big plus for me was that you can put in left-hand configuration. You couldn't do that with the L85 so I had to learn to shoot right handed, but with the Steyr I could go back to my old ways. I'd reccomend it over an AR any day.

Medusa
July 3, 2006, 12:39 PM
I'll second on that I'd reccomend it over an AR any day.
Steyr AUG is better than most assault rifles.

Wes Janson
July 3, 2006, 11:47 PM
If they re-release it, I wonder what price it would be hitting the market for. PS90s for $1800, and FS2000s for $2200... Market price for a semi-auto AUG seems to be around $3000-4500 depending on version (or at least, this is my impression based on GB). What was the original price (adjusted for inflation) when they were released?

Bluey
July 4, 2006, 12:13 AM
I can say that the AUG is pretty accurate (think capable of under 2 MOA at 100 yards, possably better), nice and compact, fairly light. Not a bad rifle, but I can't really compare it to much in the way of semi autos. The main problem I get with it is obstructions in the body when a case bounces back into the buttstock instead of going out of the ejection port.

C-grunt
July 4, 2006, 01:54 AM
I ran into a guy at the range a few months back with one. I asked him where he got it and he told me there is a guy in North Carolina that sells them. If you are looking for one now, that might help you out. Also I believe I saw one at the Scottsdale Gun Club here in Az last week. I think it was going for around 3000 dollars though.

Beren
July 4, 2006, 07:49 AM
"Supposedly" it really is going to happen, and prices will come down from what you see today. That happens when supply goes up. :)

At first, I really wanted one of these. As time passed, I realized I already have a couple of AR-15s that need more things attached to them, more suppressors, need to save up for some full-auto, etc. At this point, of what you've listed, the SCAR is the only bait that would make me bite!

orangelo
July 4, 2006, 09:00 AM
"Supposedly" the version they are manufacturing will be the new A3 AUG and not the politically corrected USR.

Can't wait. *drool* :p

Lebben-B
July 4, 2006, 09:39 AM
I'll second on that
Quote:
I'd reccomend it over an AR any day.

Steyr AUG is better than most assault rifles.

I spent a day or two at the range with the Aussies and their AUGs. The AUG shot well enough, and let's face it, it just reeks "Cool." But the trigger pull was horrible and you can forget fast reloads because of the location of the mag well and mag release. Because of the bullpup design, the weapon is inherently imbalanced. Recommend it over an AR? Respectfully, I'll keep my M4/AR.

BillinNH
July 4, 2006, 10:43 AM
< it just reeks "Cool." >

Amen to that It looks like it came out of Flash Gordon's weapons locker.

<Because of the bullpup design, the weapon is inherently imbalanced. >

Um, how so? Is it too nose light-rear heavy? For a shoulder fired weapon that doesn't seem like a problem.

The feature that appeals to me is that one can have a 22" barrel in a rlatively short gun.

Can't wait to see what the final offering/price is.

Bill

Bartholomew Roberts
July 4, 2006, 10:49 AM
I've shot the AUG myself and thought it was a neat little package. I liked the compactness, especially if you were going to be riding around in a vehicle a lot.

However I wasn't a big fan of the trigger pull (either its conduciveness to accuracy or its use as a selector depending on how hard you pull) and I didn't care for the mag changes. Though I imagine I could train around the mag changes in time.

Riktoven
July 4, 2006, 11:51 AM
The trigger is what concerned me. The select fire version the trigger is very gritty, as it kind of needs to be to control the sear under stress.

I was kind of hoping with a semi-only version they might get some kind of "closer to match grade" trigger. I don't expect to see an AR crisp trigger on a bullpup, but was hoping for better than the 80's cap gun trigger.

Fosbery
July 4, 2006, 04:24 PM
I can change the mag on an L85/AUG faster than I can on an AR. That's probably because I've traied a good part of my life doing it, but it is possible, you just need to practice. I didn't find it at all imbalanced, the balance is perfect, it softens the recoil right up and is very pointable.

swingset
July 5, 2006, 03:58 AM
Cool rifle, but better than the AR? Dunno.

Crappy trigger, awkward/slow mag change, not as modular or configurable as an AR, face-on-the-action (think kaboom), not as easily adaptable for righties/lefties (not quickly in the field).

I like the gun, don't get me wrong, but there's a reason most professional SF units around the world that can choose ANY rifle choose the M16/M4. It's still very very hard to beat.

Bluey
July 5, 2006, 09:11 AM
I spent a day or two at the range with the Aussies and their AUGs. The AUG shot well enough, and let's face it, it just reeks "Cool." But the trigger pull was horrible and you can forget fast reloads because of the location of the mag well and mag release. Because of the bullpup design, the weapon is inherently imbalanced. Recommend it over an AR? Respectfully, I'll keep my M4/AR.

I don't find reloads slow, but I guess it's because I train on it.

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