Range Report: Super Sniper 10X


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army_eod
July 3, 2006, 03:24 PM
Finally. Got to the range with the newly mounted SS 10X on the Rem 700 Tac 6.8 SPC.



OUTSTANDING. I zeroed for 200 yards. It took a few rounds to dial her in. Point here is that both the rifle and scope are way more accurate than I am. No surprise there. But was getting some good groupings. Some within a nickel at 100 yds. But I am not that consistent. Then after the zero, adjusted the target knobs back to zero readings. I will re-verify ASAP. I put 40 rounds downrange. Shot some steel plates. Had a blast. I started with Remington 6.8 SPC 115 gr FMJ. Then ran a box of Silver State 6.8 115 gr FMJ. I could not tell any difference. Both rounds are great. The Silver State is less expensive, so I may stick with it?? I have 120 rounds of Remington to blow thru.



Next is range determination lessons using Mil Dot Master...which I haven't bought yet.



The SS is the bomb!

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agony
July 3, 2006, 03:50 PM
I've been using a 10x SS for several years, and it's proven it's worth many times over. Despite some of the criticism out there, it's the best 'scope for the money.

Thin Black Line
July 3, 2006, 04:02 PM
Pics please....

army_eod
July 3, 2006, 10:52 PM
You asked for it.

http://pixpipeline.com/s/e5136dda88.jpg (http://pixpipeline.com/d/e5136dda88.jpg)

http://pixpipeline.com/s/ca5cb6f8eeba.jpg (http://pixpipeline.com/d/ca5cb6f8eeba.jpg)

redloki
July 4, 2006, 11:34 AM
Sweet rig you have there. Good luck with it.

Falconeer
July 5, 2006, 08:25 AM
Ya have to love the Super Snipers. Best value out there!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/gentlemanfalc/10FP/10FP_Right_BCStock_01.jpg

Sam Adams
July 5, 2006, 11:47 AM
Where did you get the Super Sniper, and how much was it?

Falconeer
July 5, 2006, 12:37 PM
Where did you get the Super Sniper, and how much was it?The only place you can get the Super Snipers is SWFA. Their web site is http://www.riflescopes.com. The direct link (SWFA sells a LOT of different scopes) is:
http://www.riflescopes.com/departments/231/rifle_scopes/super_sniper_rifle_scopes.htm

Their are four models of Super Sniper; 10x, 10x side focus, 16x, and 20x. The 10x, 16x, and 20x are $299.95. The 10x side focus has the focus/parallax adjustment on the left side of the tube and costs $399.95:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/gentlemanfalc/10FP/10FP_Top.jpg

On the others it's located on the main tube in front of the eyepiece. All four scopes also have a reticle focus adjustment.

Falconeer
July 5, 2006, 12:39 PM
Finally. Got to the range with the newly mounted SS 10X on the Rem 700 Tac 6.8 SPC.Hope I didn't 'hijack' your thread. :)

Who makes the base and rings you've got on the 700? The base looks like the Ken Farrell I have on my 10FP.

Sam Adams
July 5, 2006, 02:39 PM
Thanks, Falconeer.

Thin Black Line
July 6, 2006, 02:23 PM
I'm intrigued. I have a Leupold tactical mildot and mounted another for a
friend. These look like a good value for the money. I noticed they had
an NSN --which country makes these?

Have either of you also had the Leupold mildot to compare to this one?
How is clarity and how fine is the reticle? I've ran into mildots that were
too thick and blocked out too much of the target.

Davo
July 6, 2006, 04:24 PM
Falconeer is that the 10f with hs precision stock? I wanting one of those. Im thinking I will get the SS rear focus. Ive heard that SWFA will be putting out a variable soon also.

army_eod
July 6, 2006, 08:39 PM
Falconeer

My base is a Warne Picatinny base and the rings are Burris Extreme Tactical rings. Nice rings. They are aluminum.

yesterdaysyouth
July 7, 2006, 03:16 AM
I'm super impressed with my newly mounted SS as well!!

I have the 20x mounted on my heavy ass AR. It replaced a 8-24x simmons blazer that just didn't live up to my needs. Biggest problem being clarity, the simmons was awful in the heat. At 100yds on a hot summer day all I could see was the heat rising off the ground! I tested the SS last week when it was 90+, with no issues.

Things I don't like about the scope are the eye releif and height above the bore... both of which can be cured with the right goodies...

I'd have another one...

Thin Black Line
July 7, 2006, 07:18 AM
Eye relief being too short? Again, who makes these scopes --what country
was marked on it?

Double Naught Spy
July 7, 2006, 08:11 AM
Super Sniper scopes are of former Tasco manufacture, now owned by somebody else but still making the scopes overseas (Asian, but I can't recall where).

They are not the best optics in the world, but they are a good value for the money. For example, my SS 20x is not as clear as a Nightforce scope at similar magnification, but the SS cost me $300 whereas the NF goes for something like $1500...but the NF is variable power and goes to a much higher or lower magnification, so clarity isn't the only benefit of the extra $1200 for the NF.

On the 20x, the reticle lines are thick and I found it difficult to sight in on a life-like but skinny silhouette at 1000 yards as the dots and crosshairs covered a good portion of the silhouette where the head was covered by the dot and the bot trisected in thirds: Left-target, Center-reticle, Right-target.

One nice thing about the SS scopes is that they are durable and can be fired from .50 BMGs.

Falconeer
July 7, 2006, 08:30 AM
Falconeer is that the 10f with hs precision stock? I wanting one of those. Im thinking I will get the SS rear focus. Ive heard that SWFA will be putting out a variable soon also.No, it's a Bell & Carlson Medalist Varmint/Target/Tactical. Very comfortable, plus it has a Pachmyr Deaccelerator pad included.

SWFA has been talking about a variable SS for a while; I don't know the current status of it.

Falconeer
July 7, 2006, 08:33 AM
Eye relief being too short? Again, who makes these scopes --what country was marked on it?The eye relief is listed as 3.75". I have no problem keeping both eyes open and getting a full field of view. What can affect relief is the reticle focus. They recommend you point the rifle at the sky or a blank wall and adjust the reticle focus until it's crisp/clear. Once that's done you leave it. At the range you adjust the parallax adjustment until the target is clear and you get no target movement with head movement (no parallax error). At that point you're dialed in for focus. Check your range data, dial in the elevation/windage and let fly. :)

I believe the scopes are made in Japan by Tasco for SWFA; SWFA has an exclusive right to sell the scopes and have to meet SWFA's quality control standards. There simply isn't a better price/performance deal out there on a 'tactical' scope. :)

As for height above bore, that's pretty much a question of rings/base. The objective is 42mm and the tube is 30mm. My Ken Farrell 20MOA base & standard rings brings the scope up higher than normal (there's a good 10mm space between the bottom of the objective and the barrell; Ken Farrell doesn't make a lower set of rings) but the B&C Medalist VTT solved that. :) All in all it's a very comfortable combination to shoot.

Falconeer
July 7, 2006, 08:42 AM
My base is a Warne Picatinny base and the rings are Burris Extreme Tactical rings. Nice rings. They are aluminum.Nice stuff! Very nice looking set up!

Henry455
July 7, 2006, 01:22 PM
The crosshair dot on the SS scopes cover 1/10 mil (.36 inch) at 100 yards, 3.6 inches at 1000 yards. Here is a little history of the SS scopes:

http://www.supersniper.com/Reviews/9-2.htm

Here is SS website:

http://www.supersniper.com/index.htm

Where to purchase:

www.riflescopes.com

Falconeer
July 7, 2006, 01:58 PM
Here is SS websiteCoolness! I never knew the SS had it's own web site. I've always gone via SWFA.

C-grunt
July 7, 2006, 02:13 PM
Hey Falconeer, how do you like that Bell and Carlson stock? I was looking at getting one for my 10FP, but I heard that you need to modify the stock to get the rifle in it.

hksw
July 7, 2006, 09:29 PM
They are not the best optics in the world, but they are a good value for the money. For example, my SS 20x is not as clear as a Nightforce scope at similar magnification, but the SS cost me $300 whereas the NF goes for something like $1500...but the NF is variable power and goes to a much higher or lower magnification, so clarity isn't the only benefit of the extra $1200 for the NF.


I've seen the same thing with my 20X as compared to my Leupolds and Sightrons. But for - the price, I'll give it a pass. My first one broke, though, after less than 90 rounds atop a Ruger 10/22M converted to .17 HMR. Sent it back to SWFA and they gave me a new one. Reticle listed to the right 5-10.

Falconeer
July 7, 2006, 10:56 PM
Hey Falconeer, how do you like that Bell and Carlson stock? I was looking at getting one for my 10FP, but I heard that you need to modify the stock to get the rifle in it.I've been very happy with it. It's pretty much a drop in install. I had to sand the barrel channel a bit (not more than five minutes work) to ensure the barrel free floated, and the rear most trigger guard screw doesn't have a hole; you have to drill a pilot hole to use the existing screw off the Savage stock. It's not a load bearing screw and the existing Savage screw is coarse threaded so it's by design. All in all very easy.

Thin Black Line
July 9, 2006, 07:54 AM
Thanks for the input. I've seen some scopes being made in the Phillipines,
but thes one still being made in Japan were more than a hair clearer. I usually
buy quality like Leupold, Aimpoint, Trijicon, etc, but sometimes budget
pushes me for cheaper scopes.

one eyed fatman
July 9, 2006, 09:39 PM
Anybody know what height rings I should buy when installing the SS on a 10FP? 1 inch...3/4 high?

Falconeer
July 9, 2006, 10:19 PM
Anybody know what height rings I should buy when installing the SS on a 10FP? 1 inch...3/4 high?The scope tube is 30mm, so you'll want to get 30mm rings. As for height, the objective is 42mm so it will depend on the height of the base. I used Ken Farrell standard rings on a Ken Farrell 20MOA base on my 10FP.

army_eod
July 10, 2006, 12:59 AM
You have to know the actual dimensions. I used low rings for my SS when mounting on my Rem 700 Tactical. Those rings are 1/4 inch from the base to the bottom of the scope tube. This is on a Warne Picatinny mount.
This is not any too high. I would not go any higher.
See attached pic.

http://pixpipeline.com/s/9604116fa945.jpg (http://pixpipeline.com/d/9604116fa945.jpg)

Double Naught Spy
July 10, 2006, 09:23 AM
Falconeer asked to see my SS on a Barrett. This is from Tiger Valley (outside of Waco, Texas) in March 2005. The photo was taken just after firing. Note the ejecting spent case and the tarp flaps turned up at the next shooting position. I believe I have something like 600+ rounds through the rifle with the SS scope and it does just fine.

Falconeer
July 10, 2006, 12:53 PM
Double Naught Spy: Snazzy! Must be amazing to shoot. I checked my copy of "Modern Reloading" on the 50 Browning; with a 750 grain jacketed bullet you're looking at 195 to 218 grains of Accurate 8700 powder. That'll move the bullet between 2322 and 2700 FPS. For comparison a 45 takes betwen 5 & 7 grains of powder. :p

m4joey94
February 2, 2009, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Falconeer:
Coolness! I never knew the SS had it's own web site. I've always gone via SWFA.

Same here, but in my opinion, SWFA is better except that they don't have pictures up yet.

wally
February 2, 2009, 08:55 PM
All four scopes also have a reticle focus adjustment

Since most people aren't 20/20 and as you get old even if you are still 20/20 you can't focus close up *every* scope and all but the cheapest cameras have a dioper focus adjustment built in.

I had lasik last January and I'm slowly undoing all the near maxed out adjustments on my scopes.

--wally.

lipadj46
February 2, 2009, 09:06 PM
Wow this thread was from 2006. SWFA owns the Super Sniper brand for those of you living under a rock without an internet connection or something.

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